http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31057 | To wrap this up, I did finally get sendmail working, as this message demonstrates. [...snip...] | Finally, I had to change the sendmail command in my .muttrc tp specify the "From:" user: | | set sendmail = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -f pfd< at >pfdstudio.com -t" # how to deliver mail Might I suggest that you remove the "-t" and add "-oi", thus: set sendmail = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -f pfd< at >pfdstudio.com -oi" # how to deliver mail The -t says to read targets from the headers; this is wrong. Mutt (and any MUA) will put the delivery targets on the sendmail command line for you, and the headers are not (and should not be) consulted. The headers were consulted (perhaps) when you composed the message. However, if you "b" (bounce/re-send) a message, then the headers are definitiely _not_ where the message should go. There are plenty of variations on that example. The point is that mutt knows where the message should go and will tell sendmail; sendmail should not be rummaging in the message content for other stuff to gr Cameron Simpson 2008-09-08T00:21:43 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31056 Has anyone run into a scenario where "smime_keys init" doesn't create any directories or files? Alternately, is there any documentation about what files, formats, and directory structure smime_keys is supposed to make, so I can do it by hand? I've read through the perl script, but it's a bit light on internal documentation. Andrew Diederich 2008-09-07T23:19:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31055 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, September 7 at 02:53 PM, quoth Peter Davis: Do-able? Yes. Wise from a security standpoint? No. Anyone on your machine can do a `ps axw` (or a similar command) to discover your password while the inc command is running. If you really don't care, why not save your password to disk. Heck, you could even do this: macro index G "!inc -user pfd< at >pfdstudio.com -pass `cat ~/.pfdpass`\n" ~Kyle - -- When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkjEJAsACgkQBkIOoMqOI14WeACePW9hQZFmnTDA+YEhrv2mEQaJ eYYAniUYATybd5aqASebZLiDWzDlK8cT =oEAB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Kyle Wheeler 2008-09-07T18:57:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31054 I guess all I really need would be for mutt to have an environment variable (or some such thing) that I could use to pass the password on the command line: macro index G "!inc -user pfd< at >pfdstudio.com -pass $MYPASSWORD\n" Is that do-able? Thanks, -pd Peter Davis 2008-09-07T18:53:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31053 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, September 7 at 01:10 PM, quoth Peter Davis: Generally? No. Mutt doesn't do generic password management for third-party applications; and even if it did, there's no sufficiently generic method of providing the password to whatever command you happen to be running. I don't know much about MH's inc command, but presumably you can put the password for it into a config file. If that's true, then you can use gpg to encrypt that config file, and decrypt it as necessary, and once you have that working, you can use gpg-agent to cache the gpg decryption password. That's, admittedly, pretty roundabout, but I can't think of a better way. ~Kyle - -- Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. -- Oscar Wilde -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkjEISgACgkQBkIOoMqOI15vzACdGtQEk/Y47peC8oaQzGmVXvZ3 NK0AnA26sRyK0hFDK1k/HKPDpZXc08wT =pQQd - Kyle Wheeler 2008-09-07T18:46:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31052 To wrap this up, I did finally get sendmail working, as this message demonstrates. I had to add the following to /etc/postfix/main.cf: relayhost = [mail.messagingengine.com]:587 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtp_sasl_type = cyrus I did create and hash the password file with postmap, as previously suggested. Finally, I had to change the sendmail command in my .muttrc tp specify the "From:" user: set sendmail = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -f pfd< at >pfdstudio.com -t" # how to deliver mail Thanks to all for suggestions and explanations! Cheers, -pd Peter Davis 2008-09-07T17:23:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31051 I've got mutt set up to use the MH inc command to retrieve mail from a pop server. This let's me use MH's maildelivery to sort messages into folders, etc. macro index G "!inc -user pfd< at >pfdstudio.com\n" macro pager G "!inc -user pfd< at >pfdstudio.com\n" Is there a way to get mutt to prompt me for the password, and then remember it so I won't have to re-type it each time I do a G? Thanks, -pd Peter Davis 2008-09-07T17:10:31 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31050 That's perfect. Thanks! Cristopher Thomas 2008-09-06T21:04:06 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31049 %-25.25F This is a printf-like string sizing specification. See the mutt manual or man printf for details. It's the ".25" that makes the difference. The first "25" makes it a minimum of 25 characters; the ".25" makes it a maximum. The "-" left-aligns. David Champion 2008-09-06T20:56:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31048 I'm looking for a way to more strictly regulate the width of the columns in the index. For example, in my current configuration if an email address shows up in my index that is too long to be displayed in the parameters I have set for the From field (25 characters), it overflows into the subject column pushing my column formatting off. Is there a way to cut off names and addresses that run over? Cristopher Thomas 2008-09-06T20:43:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31047 Hi, I'm new to mutt. I often send patches to mailing lists, and I would like mutt to set Content-Disposition to inline whenever I attach a Patch to a new mail. Because otherwise i forget half the time to do this manually. ;-) Is there a way to do this? Thanks in advance Antoine Kaufmann 2008-09-06T20:10:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31046 Dang. Just for grins, I tried using my fastmail.fm smtp server instead of the pair one. Still no luck. Now my log shows errors below. I had set mydomain in main.cf to pfdstudio.com, the domain I generally use for personal email. However when I tried to send to pfd< at >pfdstudio.com, I got the 'unknown user' error, so I'm wondering if postfix somehow tried to send mail to this local machine, which doesn't have that account. So I tried sending to my work address, and got further errors (I think separated by a blank line I inserted.) Sep 6 09:57:56 PFD-Studio-Mac postfix/qmgr[10311]: A5D254D91181: from=<>, size=2171, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 6 09:57:56 PFD-Studio-Mac postfix/qmgr[10311]: A6EC74D91182: from=<>, size=2133, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 6 09:57:56 PFD-Studio-Mac postfix/qmgr[10311]: A9F0C4D91185: from=<>, size=2156, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 6 09:57:56 PFD-Studio-Mac postfix/qmgr[10311]: AB5F54D91188: from=<>, size=2167, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 6 09:57:56 PFD-Studio-Mac postf Peter Davis 2008-09-06T14:19:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31045 * Thomas Roessler <roessler< at >does-not-exist.org> [080906 04:56]: Thanks to the both of you for the response. Yes, it appears that the combination of xboard and cmail is the solution which I hoped to find. While trying to get xboard launched with a reasonable board size (the default was much too big for my screen), I noticed cmail in the xboard documentation, but I didn't investigate, because I am using mutt. But now I'll read over the xboard documentation carefully and give cmail a try. RLH Russell L. Harris 2008-09-06T10:44:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31044 I, too, distantly remember once having used xboard and cmail on Linux. I don't think that it used any capabilities that Linux has lost over the past 10 years. ;-) Thomas Roessler 2008-09-06T09:52:55 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31043 * Russell L. Harris <rlharris< at >oplink.net> [20080906 07:43]: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl6_cmail.htm seems to match what you want to do. Comes with the xboard package according to the page. http://www.develia.org/documents.php?l=2&f=3&p=chessonlinux should also give you something to read. IIRC, when I tried to do this a couple years back, I ended up with cmail and xboard as the docs in the package was enough to get me going relatively easy. HTH, Anders Karlsson 2008-09-06T08:52:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31042 Years ago, running Window$, I used an application which automated the process of playing chess via email. I don't remember the details, but an email with a chess game file (.pgn ?) would launch an application similar to xboard, and the chess application would create a game file (.pgn ?) for mailing. The automation did away with almost all of the hassle. Is there a Linux package (or perhaps an extension to mutt) which facilitates playing chess via email? Alternatively, is there a good HOWTO on email chess? RLH Russell L. Harris 2008-09-06T05:41:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31041 Have you checked your pair.com email in the last 90 minutes? Instead of proper SMTP AUTH, they appear to be using some pop-before-smtp setup, so you have to check your pair.com email from 98.217.207.228 (your IP) before trying to connect to relay.pair.com. Just a guess, but perhaps the reason you can relay via pair.com SMTP servers from the office is because pair associates your work IP with your pair account. Sahil Tandon 2008-09-06T04:52:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31040 Agreed; and no need for makemap. On Leopard, hash is the default_database_type so you need only type: % postmap /path/to/your/sasl_passwd You also don't need to do any of the Tiger-related reshuffling described by another poster. Just setup the sasl_passwd file and make the requisite entries in your main.cf. And as Kyle mentioned, Postfix is not always running by default on OS X. It "wakes up" to send messages when called by mutt via the sendmail command and then shuts back down after attempting to send the message. Sahil Tandon 2008-09-06T04:36:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31039 Ok, I've done all this, but my outgoing messages still disappear, and the log still says: Sep 6 00:19:46 PFD-Studio-Mac postfix/smtp[4605]: connect to relay.pair.com[209.68.5.9]: Operation timed out (p ort 25) (At least it has the right relay server now.) Thanks, -pd Peter Davis 2008-09-06T04:33:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31038 * Peter Davis on Friday, September 05, 2008 at 21:23:38 -0400 Try above with postmap. c Christian Ebert 2008-09-06T01:29:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/31037 Jorge Luis wrote: All good so far, but ... No makemap on my system. From my Googling, it seems Mac OS X should have this, but I can't find it. Thanks! -pd Peter Davis 2008-09-06T01:23:38 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.mail.mutt.user