http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2487 <pre>after upgrading to 8.3, i get an error trying to enable flyspell mode: ---- Starting new Ispell process [default] ... Enabling Flyspell mode gave an error ---- (including with "emacs -q".) before looking into it more deeply, has anyone seen this? i didn't notice it in the archives. cheers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure </pre> Greg Minshall 2012-03-24T23:14:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2486 <pre>there are various places in mh-e where mhl is used to format a message. (my particular concern is "P l"; i prefer ascii printing to ps printing.) i have a feeling that mhl worked a lot better before the advent of mime. mhl seems to have no clue how to deal with mime formatted messages. (which leaves printouts looking fairly odd.) now, however, it seems that maybe using show, or even mhshow, to display content might work better. or, am i barking up the wrong tree? cheers. ---- ps -- i've *finally* caught up with 8.3. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure </pre> Greg Minshall 2012-03-24T21:28:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2485 <pre> Bill, thanks for teh reply. It's funny, because I was just debugging it this morning when your email came in... The tip was a good one. Indeed, it is a 1.4 bug: http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/nmh-workers/2012-02/msg00001.html Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization &amp; Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ </pre> layer 2012-03-11T17:34:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2484 <pre>I see you're using nmh 1.4. I wonder if they introduced a problem in 1.4. Come to think of it, I have a vague recollection of an rdist bug being mentioned, but I don't remember the details. I'd suggest popping a note to nmh-workers at nongnu.org and seeing if they already know about it. layer &lt;layer&lt; at &gt;known.net&gt; wrote: </pre> Bill Wohler 2012-03-11T17:04:24 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2483 <pre>I see this in *MH-E Log*: send: exit code 1 send: unable to link /home/layer/mail/inbox/39 to /home/layer/mail/inboxsendQUyQ3f: File exists Plenty of space on all filesystems. Anyone else having this problem? Ideas? Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization &amp; Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ </pre> layer 2012-03-07T01:02:31 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2482 <pre> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freon.franz.com id q1FMZeK7004144 X-Mailfilter-Version: 1.23 Reproducing the behavior is a little involved (for no .emacs), but when I run w/-Q I see the same weird spaces. Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d </pre> Kevin Layer 2012-02-21T05:18:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2481 <pre> A mix of 16-bit and 8-bit spaces? You're using Emacs 23, so you should be fine. What character set is declared in the Content-Type header field for this attachment, by the way? Also, is there a change in behavior if you use emacs -Q? </pre> Bill Wohler 2012-02-21T05:14:07 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2480 <pre> $ od -a ~/support/sa1111-example-10.small 0000000 B sp sp B sp sp B sp sp B sp sp l i n u 0000020 x - g a t e . s o . 1 sp = &gt; sp B 0000040 sp ( 0 x f 7 7 0 c 0 0 0 ) nl 0000056 $ For now, I'll do a (replace-string (char-to-string 160) " ") on buffers that might have these, before I use them for anything but human viewing. Thanks. Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d </pre> Kevin Layer 2012-02-21T03:44:03 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2479 <pre> It's probably because that buffer is using a non-ASCII character set and the sender used spaces that aren't in the usual ASCII spot. What does od -a report on this line? Probably not sp. </pre> Bill Wohler 2012-02-20T01:03:51 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2478 <pre>When I copy the text from an mh-e buffer and use it somewhere, I often get these weird spaces that aren't really spaces. When I save the copied text to a file and cat -v it, it looks like this: M- M- M- M- libatk-1.0.so.0 =&gt; not found where the original text looked space indented. Anyone else see this? Is there a way to map these characters to plain old spaces? Thanks. Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization &amp; Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ </pre> Kevin Layer 2012-02-16T14:28:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2477 <pre>Hi all, please, may somebody advice? is there way to highlight the rows in index with colors according the regexp? for example I'd like to see in index all messages form mh-e-devel in green, while messages from my boss in red is it possible? </pre> Zeus Panchenko 2012-02-04T11:12:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2476 <pre> ... I neglected to mention how I access these messages. I used `F s' (`mh-search') on +todo and used a search expression of `.' to find all messages in +todo, recursively (probably because I've turned on `mh-recursive-folders-flag'). I only had to do this once. At that time, I renamed +mhe-index/. to +mhe-index/todo. So now, I can return to the original view by visiting the folder +mhe-index/todo. I use `C-u F s' to refresh the view. </pre> Bill Wohler 2012-02-04T02:51:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2475 <pre> Me too. While I depend mostly on Remember the Milk to track my tasks, I use MH mail folders to track tasks handled by email. If I send an email and require a response, I add a "Fcc: +todo/waiting-for" header field. If I get email that I want to respond to later, I'll refile or copy (if I want to preserve the original) it to the following places: +todo: things I want to respond to fairly quickly. +todo/computer: things I need to fix on my computer. +todo/computer/mh-e: where your message has been languishing :-). +todo/pending: a tickler file, things I want to review every now and again. +todo/read-review: things I need to read and do not require an action. +todo/someday: out of sight, but not out of mind. When it is done, I refile it to the +done folder (which is useful when putting together weekly status reports) and annotate the message with the completion date using the following code: mh-folder-mode-hook: (local-set-key "\C-cd" 'bw-mark-message-done) (defun bw-mark-message-done () </pre> Bill Wohler 2012-02-03T08:36:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2474 <pre>Better late than never... Xavier Maillard &lt;xma&lt; at &gt;gnu.org&gt; wrote: I try as much as possible to keep my inbox empty :-). I still follow my own advice in Appendix B of the MH-E manual, Reading Mailing Lists Effectively using procmail to file mail from mailing lists into folders or Gnus incoming files; the rest end up in the mail spool where xfaces can see it. I use `F n' (`mh-index-new-messages') to view new messages in all of the MH-E mailing list folders and Gnus to read the rest. I generally use Gnus on mailing lists where I do not read every message. I use `i' to incorporate the balance of my email from the mail spool. </pre> Bill Wohler 2012-02-03T08:25:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2473 <pre> Yep, particularly if you first apply a patch that has the fix. ;-) So, I've figured out that this is XEmacs issue570[1], and there is a patch for 21.4.22[2]. It looks like the patch has already been applied to the dev version of 21.4, and the next release is supposed to be out soon, but I don't know exactly when. I've verified that 21.4.22 plus the patch give me an XEmacs that can view the troublesome email. mike Footnotes: [1] http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue570 [2] http://list-archive.xemacs.org/pipermail/xemacs-patches/2009-September/007961.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d </pre> Mike Kupfer 2012-01-31T00:49:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2472 <pre> Mike&gt; Mike Kupfer wrote: &gt;&gt; I'll try installing Ubuntu's package of XEmacs and see if it &gt;&gt; has problems, though it may be a few days before I get to it. Mike&gt; Yep, I get a crash with the MULE (multilingual) 21.4 XEmacs Mike&gt; binary from Mike&gt; the Ubuntu repo. I'll put together a sanitized test case and Mike&gt; file a bug Mike&gt; with the XEmacs bug tracker. So if I build from source, I might survive that PNG :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 </pre> Michael Richardson 2012-01-30T14:41:03 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2471 <pre> &gt;&gt; I'm looking for suggestions: I have a bit of time to investigate this. &gt;&gt; I haven't compiled emacs myself since the mid-1990s, but I could do &gt;&gt; this. Or is it more useful for me to try to widdle down the ELISP code &gt;&gt; that causes the crash? Mike&gt; Hmm. Bill sent me a copy of the troublesome email; I can't reproduce Mike&gt; the crash with MH-E 8.0.3 on XEmacs 21.4.22 built from source (Ubuntu Mike&gt; 11.10). I'll try installing Ubuntu's package of XEmacs and see if it Mike&gt; has problems, though it may be a few days before I get to it. &gt;&gt; if that helps someone to tell me that I can work around this by ...? Mike&gt; It's apparently trying to display one of the attached PNG Mike&gt; image files. I found another email that caused it too, and I deleted each PNG in turn, but then I found that I couldn't make it crash again. So I suspect I a corruption that occurs after a bit of use, but sometimes just loading that one email is enough. Mike&gt; It makes sense to discu</pre> Michael Richardson 2012-01-30T14:40:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2470 <pre>Thanks a bunch, Mike! Mike Kupfer &lt;m.kupfer&lt; at &gt;acm.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Bill Wohler 2012-01-30T05:41:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2469 <pre> Yep, I get a crash with the MULE (multilingual) 21.4 XEmacs binary from the Ubuntu repo. I'll put together a sanitized test case and file a bug with the XEmacs bug tracker. mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 </pre> Mike Kupfer 2012-01-30T03:45:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2468 <pre> Hmm. Bill sent me a copy of the troublesome email; I can't reproduce the crash with MH-E 8.0.3 on XEmacs 21.4.22 built from source (Ubuntu 11.10). I'll try installing Ubuntu's package of XEmacs and see if it has problems, though it may be a few days before I get to it. It's apparently trying to display one of the attached PNG image files. Alas, I don't think there is any way to tell MH-E "don't display this image unless I specifically ask for it". But maybe there's some flag I don't know about and can't find with "C-h a". The image is an icon for a social media site. Maybe you could find some automated way to strip it out...? Another possible workaround would be to rebuild XEmacs with PNG support disabled. It makes sense to discuss workarounds here. But as far as actually fixing the problem, we'll get more progress discussing it on xemacs-beta&lt; at &gt;xemacs.org, I think. If you'd like, I can work with you to put together a reproducible test case that doesn't contain sensitive information (i.e., somethi</pre> Mike Kupfer 2012-01-30T02:16:26 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mh-e.user/2467 <pre> Bill&gt; Mike can confirm, but I think we fixed that one during the Bug Bill&gt; Squashing Party in December. Try removing the X-Image-URL Bill&gt; header field and see if that clears things up. If not, it's Bill&gt; something else :-(. No such header is in the email in question. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. 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