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Re: nmh dependence on metamail

Ken Hornstein — 2013-05-18T23:35:44

So ... I don't know who user dsp is, but I will note that according to
the RCS keyword that file is over 12 years old.  The current one doesn't
look anything like that now.  And as far as I can tell, nmh has never
put a reference to metamail in any of it's releases.

--Ken

Re: nmh dependence on metamail

Andy Bradford — 2013-05-18T19:39:51

Thus said Ken Hornstein on Sat, 18 May 2013 14:50:26 -0400:


There is another quoted-printable decoder  called qprint that might work
(not sure  if this is  what you  are thinking of,  but it is  in OpenBSD
ports).

I have no problems using metamail on OpenBSD from ports---works great.

Andy

Re: How to convert from quoted printable enclosures with Reply button?

Julian H. Stacey — 2013-03-26T09:27:32

Thanks, I found this: http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/qprint/

Cheers,
Julian

Re: How to convert from quoted printable enclosures with Reply button?

Andy Bradford — 2013-03-26T04:29:32

Thus said "Julian H. Stacey" on Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:17:34 +0100:


I use qprint for this.

Andy

Re: How to convert from quoted printable enclosures with Reply button?

Julian H. Stacey — 2013-03-26T01:12:43

...


Thanks Ken !

OK, Whoops, I hadn't realised my main box was so old (FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE)

FreeBSD uname -rDateNMHMy Boxes
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
8.2-RELEASEFebruary 2011 (EOL'd)nmh-1.2_3main
8.3-RELEASEApril    2012nmh-1.3-
9.1-RELEASEDecember 2012nmh-1.3laptop & server
Current-nmh-1.5-

The current FreeBSD ports/ tree now has nmh-1.5, 
so I installed, & see /usr/local/share/doc/nmh/NEWS
refs /usr/local/share/doc/nmh/contrib/replyfilter
I'll try tomorrow :-)
Thanks

Cheers,
Julian

Re: How to convert from quoted printable enclosures with Reply button?

Ken Hornstein — 2013-03-25T18:29:58

We do include the packaging tools with nmh, so if you want to build your
own RPM for nmh 1.5 it should be relatively straightforward.  Or you
can always compile it yourself and install it wherever you want.


Well, it gets installed in ${prefix}/share/doc/nmh/NEWS, which people
don't normally look at, I agree.  I only mention it because it's got all
of the details you need about replyfilter and other changes for 1.5.


Yeah, I used to do that too, but I finally got annoyed enough with that
solution to fix it in nmh.  Also, replyfilter does more than just handle
quoted-printable; it can decode base64, can handler multipart/alternative,
can convert text/html to plain text, etc etc.  It's not perfect, but it's
a lot better than the old way.


Like every other Linux distribution the release naming is completely
incomprehensible to me, so I can't say when that will happen (1.5
appears to be in some version of Ubuntu).

--Ken

Re: How to convert from quoted printable enclosures with Reply button?

Chris Siebenmann — 2013-03-25T18:02:13

| >I want to auto convert quoted printable enclosures from the  Reply
| >button, so I don't have to manually cean the = mess with vi,,
| >I don't know how [best, or at all?] to do that ?
| 
| I'm partial to this solution, because I wrote it, but:
| 
| - Upgrade your nmh to 1.5 (I see that 1.2 was released in 2005).
| - Use replyfilter.  See the NEWS file for 1.5 for more info.

 Unfortunately some Linux distributions are still shipping old versions
of nmh; Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and Debian stable are both on nmh 1.3, for
example.

(As a side note, I suspect that people who rely on the system packaged
nmh never read the NEWS on updates and may be entirely oblivious to it.
I don't know what can be done about this.)

 My personal solution to the quoted-printable quoting issue is to just
cut and paste between the exmh display and my editor when I want to
quote something. I never actually use exmh's 'reply with quoting'.

(Since I sometimes use (n)MH from the command line and do use 'reply
with quoting', I'll make sure

Re: How to convert from quoted printable enclosures with Reply button?

Ken Hornstein — 2013-03-25T17:58:20

As long as we're on the subject ... can you give me some hints on how
to get the word out?  I mean, this feature was part of the nmh release
announcement, it's a featured item on the nmh home page, I've discussed
it here and elsewhere .... I'm wondering what else I need to do let people
know about this!

(Also, please read the NEWS file completely, especially the NOTABLE CHANGES
section, otherwise I reserve the right to mock you if you ask why you
can't send email anymore :-) ).

--Ken

Re: How to convert from quoted printable enclosures with Reply button?

Ken Hornstein — 2013-03-25T17:49:36

I'm partial to this solution, because I wrote it, but:

- Upgrade your nmh to 1.5 (I see that 1.2 was released in 2005).
- Use replyfilter.  See the NEWS file for 1.5 for more info.

--Ken

How to convert from quoted printable enclosures with Reply button ?

Julian H. Stacey — 2013-03-25T17:17:34

Hi exmh-users< at >redhat.com
I want to auto convert quoted printable enclosures from the  Reply
button, so I don't have to manually cean the = mess with vi,,
I don't know how [best, or at all?] to do that ?

- A sendmail issue ? Convert all hated (*) quoted-printable enclosures 
  received at my host before nmh & exmh even display them ?.
- An exmh issue ? Give a directive to nmh to run eg: demime or emil
  on quoted printable enclosure[s] on Reply ?
  - demime: http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html
  - emil:   http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/mail/emil/Makefile?view=markup
- Or just some nmh config option ?

I've been reading various sendmail & NMH manuals & config files etc,
but not found an answer.  Your ideas please ? even if RTFM URL#....

I'm using exmh-2.7.2_3 nmh-1.2_3 FreeBSD-8.2 ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.4
(& also have FreeBSD-9.1, exmh-2.7.2_5 nmh-1.3 ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.5)

PS (*) ( Quoted-printable has been a real pain,
   On majordomo aliases on servers I extended pipes with
"|/usr/local/bin/demime -8

Re: nmh-1.5 working for anyone

Ken Hornstein — 2013-01-07T14:44:54

Just as a note ... you might want to make sure add as much stuff from
the template components file as possible.  You need those things to
make things like the new -to, -from, and -subject switches work.  Of
course exmh doesn't use those features, but hey, I live in hope! :-)


Perhaps a typo in the email address?  Anyway, glad you got it working.


On behalf of everyone who's contributed to nmh, thank you!

--Ken

Re: nmh-1.5 working for anyone

Kevin Oberman — 2013-01-07T07:12:49

Ken,

Thanks for the response. I edited the various comps files and things
seem to be working right, now.

I am still baffled as to the problems I had with the server (MTA)
refusing the message. I don't have the error, but it is gone with the
edited comps. Before editing the comps files I just manually added a
"From: <e-meil address>" to the headers, but it clearly failed.

In any case, it is working. Thanks for the work on nmh. I want to play
aroudn with some of the new features when I get a little time (which
may mean "never", I'm afraid. How is it that I have less free time
since I retired from full-time work?

On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Ken Hornstein <kenh< at >pobox.com> wrote:

Re: nmh-1.5 working for anyone

Ken Hornstein — 2013-01-05T16:27:59

That's actually mentioned in the nmh release notes, so you can check there
for more information.  You also might want to look at the supplied components
files, as there have been a number of significant changes on that front.

As for the problems sending messages, I think we'd need to see the
exact error messages.  It could be you're using a different MTS then you
were previously.

--Ken

Re: nmh-1.5 working for anyone

Douglas Berry — 2013-01-05T16:05:57

Similar experience here, although I edited my various components
files to adapt. I have not experienced any problems with mail relays.

I have noted the exmh ports update (exmh-2.7.2_6 to exmh-2.8.0) has
pessimized I/O on my FreeBSD 8-STABLE system with either old or new
nmh.  I have large folders and address database.  I've shrunk the
folders, which helps, but saving the address database takes much
longer (100x) than before.

cheers,
doug

nmh-1.5 working for anyone

Kevin Oberman — 2013-01-05T07:37:40

I updated nmh to 1.5 today and exmh broke rather badly. First, it
insisted that I manually add a From: to the header instead of using my
address. (I can probably fix this by editing components.) But even
then, it bombed when attempting ot send the message saying that the
remote system would not accept it.

I have rolled it back 1.3 and it is working again, but I am not yet
sure if the problem is in exmh or nmh. (No, I have not even looked at
the nmh release notes, so I'll admit to laziness (or the desire to get
to bed).

Re: SPAM???

John Meissen — 2012-11-02T16:53:34

I think it's coming through the list. I get list messages in digest form, and 
they're in the digest.

john-

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Re: SPAM??? [was: [Nmh-workers] Email access whiletraveling?]

Kevin Oberman — 2012-11-01T22:07:57

If I have, my spam filters caught it all. I have not received any.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Kevin Cosgrove <kevinc< at >cosgroves.us> wrote:

Re: [Nmh-workers] Email access while traveling?

Staci Page — 2012-10-30T21:42:50

Hey love, I just have a second to message back because I'm at work. I'll send you my page on this website for my pics and some stuff. Gimme a ring or txt if yer interested. K I gotta go ttyl



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Re: [Nmh-workers] Email access while traveling?

Staci Page — 2012-10-30T21:42:48

Short n sweet I dig it! lol.. Im curious whatre you doin a bit later? I'm sorta trying to set up a meet tonight or some time on the weekend because I am working weekdays.


Would not mind some reciprocal oral and maybe sex if your DD free? I'm 420 friendly tho and I can host if you would like me to. I've been using this CL verification website to make sure that I'm not meeting with killers through Craigslist here it is this page


Hopefully you wouldn't mind doing the verifier you will see a few pictures I have on there and also my number is safeguarded from the public. Don't share that site I do not want everyone in the world having it heh.


Ill leave it to you to call me if I'm what your'e looking for. I am going to jump in the shower for awhile, send me a text or a VM if I do not answer and I will call you back when I am out.


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Re: [Nmh-workers] Email access while traveling?

Dale Alspach — 2012-10-30T14:25:06

When the conection is open, click the settings button on the phone. Force size 
is on the menu. This works on Droid 3 and 4 and I assume is similar on other 
android phones.

Dale

Re: [Nmh-workers] Email access while traveling?

Staci Page — 2012-10-30T01:25:20

Hiya, I just got a sec to reply b/c Im workin. Lemme let ya have my link on here for my pictures and stuff about me. Just call or text message if you are interested. K I gotta go bye bye

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