gmane.mail.archives.mail-archive

Re: Search returning 404

Mail Archive Support — 2013-06-07T05:37:26

Thanks for the report. I found a stale lockfile in announce-1oDqGaOF3Lkdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org that
was gumming up the works (we update search indexes once a day, in
alphabetical order).  I've cleared the problem and resumed indexing, which
should finish in a few hours. This error should have generated an alert, so
I am checking to see why it didn't.

-Jefff


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Bryan Alsdorf <balsdorf-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: Search returning 404

Bryan Alsdorf — 2013-06-06T19:31:36

Thanks Jeff,

Search now does not return a 404 but it seems searching by date for
anything in June fails (unless I have the syntax wrong).

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=date:[20130601%20TO%2020130606]&l=maria-developers-oU9gvf+ajcQ97yFScArB1dHuzzzSOjJt< at >public.gmane.org

has no results, though the date view shoes messages.

http://www.mail-archive.com/maria-developers-oU9gvf+ajcQ97yFScArB1dHuzzzSOjJt< at >public.gmane.org/maillist.html

I have checked this on a few other lists as well.

BR,
/bryan


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Jeff Breidenbach <jeff-NoPKagzlVeY< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: Search returning 404

Jeff Breidenbach — 2013-05-31T23:31:46

Individual list search is very important. Thank you for reporting
the problem. This turned out to be a configuration mistake on the
webserver, involving the MultiViews configuration directive.
Search should be working now. Let us know if you see any
anomalies, and in the meantime we're looking into how the
mistake was introduced in order to prevent recurrence.

-Jeff

Search returning 404

Bryan Alsdorf — 2013-05-31T15:57:51

Search from the front page works (using the google search) but the
individual list search such as
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=test&l=gossip%40jab.org now return a
404.

Are we supposed to just use the google search from now on?

Best Regards.
Bryan

Postini alternative

Jeff Breidenbach — 2013-04-15T01:45:22

Dear List Admins,

This is a question for some of the expert spam-fighters out there.
As you might imagine, The Mail Archive is on the  receiving
end of a fair amount of email spam. We currently reduce some
of that inbound spam using a service called Postini Message
Filtering. Unfortunately that service is being phased out so
so we are looking at alternatives. Does anyone have a particular
favorite amongst the spam filtering services?

-Jeff

http://postini-transition.googleapps.com/

Please remove opensuse-offtopic from your archives

Greg Freemyer — 2013-03-21T14:31:13

Mail-archive admins,

It has come to my attention that you have made the content of
opensuse-offtopic available to the public.  Apparently this began last
summer (2012).

The list is designated as a non-archived list and by design should not
be archived anywhere.

Please unsubscribe and delete your existing archive.

To confirm this is a legitimate request I have cc'ed Henne Vogelsang
who is the list administrator and linked to emails discussing the
issue:

http://www.mail-archive.com/opensuse-offtopic-stAJ6ESoqRxg9hUCZPvPmw< at >public.gmane.org/msg06558.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/opensuse-offtopic-stAJ6ESoqRxg9hUCZPvPmw< at >public.gmane.org/msg06559.html

Thanks
Greg
--
Greg Freemyer
openSUSE team member

Happy 2013

Jeff Breidenbach — 2013-01-06T06:41:38

Happy New Year.

As The Mail Archive enters its 15th year of operation, let's take a
quick look back. This year we had a record uptime percentage of
99.69%. That number jumps to 99.96% if you forgive the day we were
deliberately dark in protest of the proposed SOPA law in the United
States. There are two reasons for the improvement. First, switching
all messages over to solid state storage mid-year really helped; the
disk subsystem used to lockup every few months, and that has gone
away entirely. Second, internally we paid a lot more attention to
this topic. Which you can see from the heckling I took during an
operating system upgrade last week. (Warning: strong language.)
http://www.mail-archive.com/heckle.html

The message page redesign was also a lot of fun. We used the services
of a professional designer, paying particular attention to recent web
standards. The process even included a usability study under controlled
conditions. Thanks to everyone who has provided feedback so far.

Finally, as you may kn

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

e-letter — 2012-12-12T14:20:17

An annoyance with the latest design is that hyperlinks to move to the
next thread message are never in the same place.

In the previous design, a message could be read and the key 'end' used
to navigate to the end of the page. After moving the mouse the the
hyperlink for the next message, never needed to move the mouse again!
:)

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Jeff Breidenbach — 2012-12-10T01:37:13

Okay, so here's a quick status update. There are have been suggestions about
fonts. Font weight. Line spacing. Typeface. Line spacing is interesting,
a big design goal was to make more information available with less scrolling.
However, we've found several references that suggest 1.4 is good in terms
of helping readability. There is probably some personal preference; for
example I personally like Courier better than Monospace. We're going to let
the current design ride for a few months then revisit. The left vs. center
justification of the entire page seems similarly subjective.

One thing that would make a difference - more quickly - is an extremely
authoritative source. For example a paper by Donald Knuth explaining
how and why some other line height is better.

There have been users who like to read in date order who are disappointed
that we dropped some of the navigation buttons. We continue thinking, but
are not sure how to make them happy without increasing confusion for
everyone else.

The visited lin

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Christian Lohmaier — 2012-12-02T14:37:58

Hi Jeff, *,

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Jeff Breidenbach <jeff-NoPKagzlVeY< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Speaking of fonts: After reading a while in the archive I find the
line-spacing a little excessive - it is currently at 1.4

Personally I find 1.2 much more comfortable for longer posts.

ciao
Christian

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Ralph Corderoy — 2012-12-05T16:53:35

Hi,

Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Deviating from the 1.2 norm also messes up glyphs that span lines, e.g.
http://www.mail-archive.com/dorset-xGejAJT2w6wUICxRtmY4x7VCufUGDwFn< at >public.gmane.org/msg04946.html

Altering it back to 1.2 by editing body's font using the browser makse
them butt up normally again.

Cheers, Ralph.

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Ralph Corderoy — 2012-12-02T17:35:08

Hi Christian,


Thanks for pointing that out;  I've just changed to 1.2, which I think
is this browser's default, and consider it easier to read.  The blank
line between paragraphs now stands for something again now that
everything isn't spaced.

Cheers, Ralph.

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Christian Lohmaier — 2012-12-02T14:37:58

Hi Jeff, *,

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Jeff Breidenbach <jeff-NoPKagzlVeY< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Speaking of fonts: After reading a while in the archive I find the
line-spacing a little excessive - it is currently at 1.4

Personally I find 1.2 much more comfortable for longer posts.

ciao
Christian

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Jeff Breidenbach — 2012-12-02T06:56:25

I didn't notice this until you mentioned it. Now it is driving me crazy.
Thank you for the feedback.

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Jeff Breidenbach — 2012-12-02T06:50:25

Thank you for the feedback, keep it coming.

Interesting screenshots. By the way, my everyday platform is
also Ubuntu (10.04 and 12.04). So far I can't reproduce font
problems with courier.

As for the ordering of font-family, that's a good question. Let
me check with graphic designer.

-Jeff

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Christian Lohmaier — 2012-11-28T20:11:00

Hi Jeff, *,

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Jeff Marshall <marshman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

I like the new design  Also like that I don't have to do horizontal
scrolling to read the posts, as I hate having my browser maximized
(only have 1280x800 screen, but still my browser ~never is maximized
horizontally)

What I dislike is that visited links are indistinguishable from non
visited ones. The difference in color just is way too little.

ciao
Christian

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Ralph Corderoy — 2012-11-28T13:47:19

Hi Jeff,


Browser is Firefox 11.0+build1-0ubuntu0.10.10.2 on Ubuntu 10.10.
Using
http://www.mail-archive.com/dorset-xGejAJT2w6wUICxRtmY4x7VCufUGDwFn< at >public.gmane.org/msg04936.html
PNG screenshot with browser maximised is http://derp.co.uk/52c55
That's with browser zoom zeroed.  Shows the leftness of it.

I got screenshots in a bunch of Firefox and Chrome browsers.
http://browsershots.org/http://www.mail-archive.com/dorset-xGejAJT2w6wUICxRtmY4x7VCufUGDwFn< at >public.gmane.org/msg04936.html
They all seem OK, including Firefox 11.

Looking back at my one, pre's font-family is `courier,"courier
new",monospace' and it's `courier' that looks bad.  Either of the other
two are OK, `monospace' is particularly nice.  Why are they in that
order?  I'd expect the unusual but best first, with the fallback font
available everywhere, `courier', last?

Cheers, Ralph.

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Jeff Breidenbach — 2012-11-28T07:29:11

Ralph:

Can you share your browser + operating system including
version numbers? If it is not too hard, a screenshot of
a message page as well? Do you know what your browser
zoom level is set to? Feel free to reply privately if you prefer.

http://www.whatismybrowser.com/
http://www.smartsheet.com/help/browser-zoom

Sherry:

Thanks for the feedback. I think you are seeing the effects
of a thin font, rather than font color. In any case, we'll think
it over. Especially of others express similar concerns.

Sarah:

In the last round of feedback you suggested using ARIA for
screen reader support. The new design includes basic
ARIA roles. Are you able to test and tell us if this meets
your needs?

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Sherry/Support — 2012-11-27T14:48:15

Looks great to me. The message takes up a full 2/3 of the page, not just 1/3.

My only complaint, as one who has some vision issues, is that the font
isn't dark enough.

Personally, I *like* the white space. I *hate* clutter on my screen.
But then that could be due to my vision issues - too much nonsense
distracts from what I'm focusing on.

I don't see any corrupted fonts. It just would be nice if they were
darker though.

Sherry


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Ralph Corderoy <ralph-LZ+9dIjwmAmSaWcfd5glvw< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

Ralph Corderoy — 2012-11-27T12:38:16

Hi Jeff,


`left' being too true.  :-)  On a full HD monitor with maximised browser
the email is the left third of the screen.  It's like Google+'s
`whitespace' problem, only slightly worse.  Could not the whole page be
centred?

Also, the fixed-width Courier is being corrupted.  pre's `font-size:
1em' is fine but the higher body's `font: 87.5%/1.4' is shrinking it
leading to hard-to read `a's and backticks are slight.  Here's the
default and below with the 87.5% turned off.  http://derp.co.uk/fc580

Cheers, Ralph.

New look to Mail Archive message pages

Jeff Marshall — 2012-11-25T15:32:16

We have been working on a new design for The Mail Archive message pages.
 The goal has been to visually bring you to the message content faster.
 The subject and message are right there at the very top left of the page
now.

We've been finding and fixing bugs with the new design the last few weeks
but please alert us to all the edge cases we've neglected to find ourselves!

Feedback and bug reports are desired.

Thank you

Jeff