http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1903 <pre> This has nothing to do with REPL or not, emacs or wim, but all with buffering, which is implementation dependant. The code needs this force-output to be conforming. </pre> Pascal J. Bourguignon 2010-11-11T03:53:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1902 <pre>Yeah, I'm doing this from the REPL. I guess I'm a weird lisper in that I really can't seem to start using emacs. I use vim with limp. But that worked great. Thanks. </pre> Matt Cheung 2010-11-11T00:53:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1901 <pre> Hmm, are you trying this from a REPL or from slime? You might want to add (force-output *query-io*) after (apply ...) in your code. HTH Ralf Mattes </pre> rm-2s+jgvIlYZ2ELgA04lAiVw< at >public.gmane.org 2010-11-10T22:19:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1900 <pre>I've been working through the book "On Lisp" trying to follow the code for the utilities to make sure I understand how they work. I've noticed something about the prompt utility. If I enter: (defun prompt (&amp;rest args) (apply #'format *query-io* args) (read *query-io*)) and then try at the prompt: (prompt "&gt;&gt; ") I get a blank line and once I enter a lisp expression it will evaluate it and print like the following: * (prompt "&gt;&gt; ") (+ 1 2) * However in clisp the following will happen [1] (prompt "&gt;&gt; ") 3 Which is what I expected. Can anybody tell me if there is a different variable I should be using in sbcl or some other way t </pre> Matt 2010-11-10T20:36:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1899 <pre>Zach You can get SDL on a macbook using ports. http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=variant&amp;substr=sdl On 26 August 2010 07:30, Zach Beane &lt;xach-ELGzOmzzS7o&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Justin Heyes-Jones 2010-08-26T14:43:10 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1898 <pre>Tim Daly &lt;daly-fkGhOwzH+GMtmNyP1c9330B+6BGkLq7r&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; writes: Hit #1 on Google for "SDL" :) It's the "Simple DirectMedia Layer", a library that abstracts away some of the details of graphics, sounds, windows, etc. to make it easy to do e.g. cross-platform GUI products. I've seen it most often used for games (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_using_SDL) but early versions of the Factor GUI used SDL as well. Zach </pre> Zach Beane 2010-08-26T14:11:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1897 <pre>I'll bite. What's SDL? Zach Beane wrote: </pre> Tim Daly 2010-08-26T14:00:28 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1896 <pre>Tim Daly &lt;daly-fkGhOwzH+GMtmNyP1c9330B+6BGkLq7r&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; writes: I'm afraid it's not access - I have an Intel Macbook. I just don't know what to click and what to run to get SDL installed on my Macbook. With Ubuntu it's "apt-get install ...". Zach </pre> Zach Beane 2010-08-26T13:30:58 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1895 <pre>Zach, I can give you ssh access to an intel Mac if you'd like. Tim Daly daly-fkGhOwzH+GMtmNyP1c9330B+6BGkLq7r&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Zach Beane wrote: </pre> Tim Daly 2010-08-26T13:24:43 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1894 <pre> Lispbuilder-sdl is also included in quicklisp. I haven't been able to test it on Windows (don't have it) or Mac (couldn't get SDL installed on my macbook), but I'd love to have someone else try it. Works perfectly on my Ubuntu desktop. Zach _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list Gardeners&lt; at &gt;lispniks.com http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners </pre> Zach Beane 2010-08-26T12:27:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1893 <pre>_______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list Gardeners-0Lpivb7LZrJWk0Htik3J/w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners </pre> Luke Crook 2010-08-26T02:22:33 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1892 <pre>_______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list Gardeners-0Lpivb7LZrJWk0Htik3J/w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners </pre> Alexandre Paes 2010-08-25T20:20:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1891 <pre> asdf-install uses a dynamically modifiable resource (cliki) to map names to library archives hosted in arbitrary locations. It uses an error trap to proceed - if an error that component "bar" is not found when loading "foo", it does a round-trip through cliki to find and load "bar". Also, when loading "foo", any file in the top-level of the archive that ends with ".asd" is loaded. asdf-install executes an external tar program to unpack its archives, and uses an external gpg program to verify its validity. There are a number of points where things can and do go wrong with this setup, including cliki vandalism, cliki outages, third-party site outages, trying to load too much (this is quite problematic with clsql), not loading enough, not having a "tar" or "gpg" program (this is quite problematic on Windows and slightly problematic on MacOS X), not having the right PGP keys, and more. Quicklisp takes a different approach of copying third-party libraries to a central location (hosted by Amazon S3 and served </pre> Zach Beane 2010-08-25T12:12:29 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1890 <pre>May I ask what is the difference between quicklisp and asdf-install ? 2010/8/25 Peter Seibel &lt;peter-oMSWzMXvlVKBCiQz0RPHcQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;: </pre> Charles Wang 2010-08-25T09:18:05 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1889 <pre>_______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list Gardeners-0Lpivb7LZrJWk0Htik3J/w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners </pre> Peter Seibel 2010-08-24T19:54:01 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1888 <pre>Hi, Gardeners! I'm working on a new project called Quicklisp. The goal is to make it very easy to get access to the wide variety of community-developed CL libraries, no matter what Common Lisp implementation or operating system you're using, so you can get that part out of the way and start working on interesting applications in CL. There's a bare-bones website here: http://www.quicklisp.org/ That has a link to a screencast I made to introduce the project: http://www.quicklisp.org/screencasts/ Please check it out and let me know what you think. Zach </pre> Zach Beane 2010-08-24T19:09:05 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1887 <pre>On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Brendon Schumacker &lt;brendon.schu-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: If your target is the JVM, there's also ABCL, a Common Lisp that runs on the JVM and compiles to Java bytecode. It can run many CL libraries and use Java libraries, albeit with a slightly more verbose syntax than Clojure (which has been designed with Java interoperability as a key goal). It can also represent Java classes as (limited) CLOS classes, so you can have generic function dispatch on Java types, honoring the Java class hierarchy of course. &lt;shameless-plug&gt;For GUIs on ABCL, one option is my half-baked library/DSL called Snow, which exposes Swing to Lisp and integrates it with Cells, the dataflow library by Ken Tilton.&lt;/shameless-plug&gt; Cheers, Alessio </pre> Alessio Stalla 2010-05-26T08:03:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1886 <pre> Thanks Paul! I'll check that out when I get a chance. Brendon </pre> Brendon Schumacker 2010-05-26T07:51:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1885 <pre>_______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list Gardeners-0Lpivb7LZrJWk0Htik3J/w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners </pre> Paul Legato 2010-05-24T05:17:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1884 <pre>... LTk uses IPC to talk between CL and Tk. This is a great strength and weakness (see flame wars about X11 on the same topic). In my experience, LTk is fine for most desktop apps (e.g. ABLE[1]) but it may not be suitable for a fast-paced game (difficulty controlling latency). I recently posted a Sudoku GUI to the LTk mailing list. It takes a while to render at first; but then its fully playable. - Daniel [1] http://common-lisp.net/project/able/ </pre> Daniel Herring 2010-05-24T01:17:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners/1883 <pre> Thanks Peter! I downloaded that onto my Ubuntu system yesterday and found the demo to load and work without a hitch on the first try, good stuff! I'm quite busy these days, I hope that I can get a chance to experiment with it more later. I'm curious if it has enough to create a game, or make an office app... and work cross platform from Linux to Windows without too much adjustment. I wouldn't mind if it didn't have everything from drop down menus to animation support as long as it gives me the ability to create them myself. I once created a Python interface from scratch for making animations without much more than Text, Boxes, and Click instances. Brendon </pre> Brendon Schumacker 2010-05-23T19:52:26 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.lisp.cl-gardeners