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Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections: Town hall meeting schedule

Robyn Bergeron — 2012-05-23T11:43:56

As you have (hopefully) heard by now, elections for the Fedora Board, 
FESCo, and FAmSCo are quickly approaching.

In each election cycle, a series of town hall meetings is held to give 
community members and opportunity to ask candidates questions - and hear 
their answers - via IRC.

The town hall schedule for the upcoming election is as follows:

Fedora Project Board:
* Tuesday, May 29, 2012 at 17:00 UTC
* Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 20:00 UTC

FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee):
* Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 17:00 UTC
* Thursday, May 31, 2012 at 20:00 UTC

FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee):
* Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 16:00 UTC
* Monday, May 28 at 17:00 UTC

Not sure what time that is? Use a handy-dandy time zone calculator to 
find out when to show up:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

Important information about how you can participate in the town halls 
via IRC, as well as the details of each town hall meeting, can be seen 
on the wiki here:

http://fedoraprojec

The hotdog debate continues. (Was: folks are still whining aboutnames? Rly?)

Mark Terranova — 2012-05-22T22:16:30

*“And on the 17th release he saw the name, and YAY, it *was* good.”

It recently dawned on me that some in Fedora have a goal of trying to make
*everyone* happy. It’s NOT gonna happen. You are not engaged in *reality*.
I would also suggest that you may not fully understand the greatness of the
Fedora Project. We are NOT vanilla. We dont always take the *safe route*.
We live on the edge, an edge that we usually forge ourselves. If you want
to play everything safe, go ahead. I can point you to some very nice folks,
in other Distros.

IMHO, we have 3 camps in the *naming debate*. In the middle we have some
common sense folks that want to create a balance (the core design team as
well as Inode0). The other two parts are extremists. I realized that some
of the push was from revisionists, and those with *no sense of humor*. I
have decided to take up the other extreme of defending ANY perceived attack
on the GLORIOUS Beefy Miracle.

My offer to the other extreme; *stand down* and let the grown-ups decide
this

Board IRC Meeting Minutes :: 2012-05-16

Robyn Bergeron — 2012-05-16T20:07:20

Logs: 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/fedora_board_meeting.2012-05-16-18.30.log.html
Minutes: 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/fedora_board_meeting.2012-05-16-18.30.html

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#fedora-meeting: Fedora Board Meeting
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Meeting started by rbergeron at 18:30:47 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/fedora_board_meeting.2012-05-16-18.30.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call and Gathering of Steam  (rbergeron, 18:31:43)
   * probinson is unable to attend  (gholms, 18:32:28)
   * rdieter sends regrets, as does abadger1999; cwickert is travelling
     to fudcon kuala lumpur  (rbergeron, 18:33:09)

* Announcements  (rbergeron, 18:35:35)
   * F17 - RC1 for final/GA is available now.
     http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2012-May/000449.html
     (rbergeron, 18:36:21)
   * Please help out in testing

Re: Public IRC Board Meeting today, Wednesday, 2012-05-16 18:30 UTC

Peter Robinson — 2012-05-16T18:31:42

Apologies for the late notice but I won't be able to attend.

Peter

On May 16, 2012 4:09 PM, "Robyn Bergeron" <rbergero< at >redhat.com> wrote:
IRC
have a quorum or not at meeting time, but Q&  A at the bare minimum can
continue.
Board meeting, I would be appreciative of that - some people miss it (and
yes, I know, others detest it!). I'll be en route back from a doctor visit
around the time when we'd want to do so (approximately a half-hour prior to
the meeting.)
coordinate/lead. Perhaps that person could do a whenisgood time checkin for
the people who are interested in being involved.
Yay/Nay?
18:30 UTC
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Public IRC Board Meeting today, Wednesday, 2012-05-16 18:30 UTC

Robyn Bergeron — 2012-05-16T14:49:00

Greetings!

This is a friendly reminder that the Fedora Board will be having a public IRC
meeting Today!, Wednesday, May 16, at 18:30 UTC. This meeting is open to
everyone, participation and input is welcomed.

We do have a few people expected to be out this week, we shall see if we have a quorum or not at meeting time, but Q&  A at the bare minimum can continue.

If someone is available to do a ping in all the channels to notify of the Board meeting, I would be appreciative of that - some people miss it (and yes, I know, others detest it!). I'll be en route back from a doctor visit around the time when we'd want to do so (approximately a half-hour prior to the meeting.)

When: 18:30 UTC (2:30pm US-Eastern), on May 16, 2012
Where: in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net (assuming no conflicts)
Meeting Info:http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/IRC
Meeting Secretary: Robyn Bergeron

Today's agenda is:

* Announcements
* Open Q&  A
* Open Discussion items:
   ** Release Naming: Checking in to see if someone is wi

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-12T02:01:28

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Kévin Raymond
<shaiton< at >fedoraproject.org> wrote:

ok then :-) .. in the meantime fedora.my will be using this for our
events (FADs, Release Party, etc) .. and I'll be improving it as it
goes, and when it matures a bit more, create a generic deployment
buildout in case fudcon.fp.o or other communities/conference  want to
run their own setup ..

p/s: just another idea, but this might be cool too .. of course, it
will need system made/customized for it ...

events.fp.o/fudcon/<region>/year
events.fp.o/fad/<location>/<MMYY>
events.fp.o/releaseparty/<location>/<relnum>

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Kévin Raymond — 2012-05-11T15:32:28

[snip]


No I mean for the infra maintainers.
We need to have a team dedicated, really involved.

[snip]

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-11T15:19:32

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Kévin Raymond
<shaiton< at >fedoraproject.org> wrote:

yeah understandable .. though I myself has expertise on Plone as its
part of my dayjob, and i'm contributing there too .. So I can help out
in the setup and some maintenance ..


you mean for ACL? .. Plone permission infrastructure is hierarchical
.. each content in Plone may have its own set of people who are
allowed to add/edit/delete them .. permissions on folders are
inherited by its contents ..

so what we can do here is , use Plone's OpenID support to integrate it
with FAS (or I can write a Plone Auth plugin for directly integrate it
with FAS, but imo, OpenID is simpler) .. for each FUDCon, assign an
owner to it .. everything under the FUDCon folder are fully controlled
by the new owner .. he/she may share the folder to his team ..

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Kévin Raymond — 2012-05-11T15:13:40

And the major problem is that FUDCon teams change every years… :(

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Kevin Fenzi — 2012-05-11T15:02:41

On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:54:33 +0800
Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail <kagesenshi.87< at >gmail.com> wrote:

...snip...


Not too well off hand. ;) 

We like everything to be managed by our package management system. 

It's possible we could be talked into a setup like above, but it would
require at least the rest of the request for resources process and some
convincing. The thing we 100% wish to avoid with any of these solutions
is "hey, here's this solution" and then people wandering off and
leaving US to maintain something long term without help or expertise. 

Any solution should be long term maintainable. 

kevin
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Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-11T13:58:08

to try out .. you can run these commands

git clone git< at >github.com:inigoconsulting/collective.conference.git
cd collective.conference
python2.6 bootstrap.py
./bin/buildout -v
# after buildout successfully run
./bin/instance fg # this runs the zope server in foreground ..

the conference tool is installable as an addon ..

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-11T13:54:33

Hi Kevin,

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Kévin Raymond
<shaiton< at >fedoraproject.org> wrote:

Plone (http://plone.org) is a CMS written on top of Zope Application
Server .. which is written using Python language.



The database is and object database called ZODB and it is bundled
together with the Zope installation. ZODB default storage is file
based, but optionally, ZODB may use MySQL or PGSQL as its backend
storage, allowing replication/backup through the SQL backend ..

Infra requirement for latest Plone,

* Python2.6 (so should be ok on RHEL/CentOS .. but if its a Fedora
server, will need compat-python26)
* ability to listen to a port
* gcc, g++, python2.6-devel, libxslt-devel, libjpeg-devel, zlib-devel
for buildout to build some python eggs (what is buildout?, covered
below)


There used to be RPM for Fedora, but it was orphaned, and for EPEL,
its outdated.

However,  the best method (and also the recommended method by the
Plone community) of deployment of Plone is using Buildout
(http://www.buildout.

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Kévin Raymond — 2012-05-11T13:24:28

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
<kagesenshi.87< at >gmail.com> wrote:


Hi,

Never heard about Plone before…
What are the infra requirement, on which language is it running, which
database…?
Is there an RPM?
Does it support multi-language?

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-11T11:45:42

just mentioning another alternative for a system.

FUDCon KL (http://fedora.my/events/fudconkl2012) uses an addon on
Plone which I develop myself ..
https://github.com/inigoconsulting/collective.conference ..

Its a bit basic right now, and only enough to run FUDCon KL and not as
mature as the drupal systems ... though more features will come as
theres some NGO interested to fund it ..

currently what it can do :

- anonymous registration + session submission
- organize sessions using arshaw's jquery fullcalendar
- session, participant, and agenda listing
- simple session approval
- multiple events per site
- utilize plone's built in document management features

This system is also going to be used by the malaysian team for our
future barcamp style FADs  ..

Perhaps fp.o might be interested to use it to.. but of course, the
community should decide on this .. as I understand that Plone is not
exactly familiar to many people.

Re: The Future of release names

Máirín Duffy — 2012-05-10T15:58:42

I didn't see a link to the wiki page here or elsewhere in the thread so:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Future_Release_Naming

If you are interested please add your name to the list so we can move
forward.

~m

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Re: The Future of release names

Bruno Wolff III — 2012-05-10T13:11:48

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 13:14:32 -0500,
   inode0 <inode0< at >gmail.com> wrote:

I'd rather see things go the other way. I think the design team should pick 
a set of candidate names that they think would work well for theming (then get 
pared down by legal) and then have FPCA+1 people vote for which name to use.
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Re: The Future of release names

Rajesh Ranjan — 2012-05-10T11:25:13

On ??????  09 ?? 2012 02:09 ???????, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

Hi Toshio,

Thanks.

I like to join the meeting and this effort but I don't know exactly when/where it happens and it is through IRC or telephonic?

At least I would like to work on the issue of connotation and the solution for the same.

Re: The Future of release names

Nicu Buculei — 2012-05-10T06:35:48

If you are creative enough, you can draw marketing opportunities from 
*everything*:
- Leonidas incidentally matched the release of the "300" movie, Spartans 
and stuff... some of us used it like that;
- Zod was very early, when the community was underdeveloped, but it one 
of the most awesome release names we ever had. One word: superheroes!
- Spherical Cow... that's still new and we have to do a bit of thinking, 
but you can have for example simplified versions of anything.

Re: The Future of release names

Bruno Wolff III — 2012-05-09T20:33:53

Note that you could vote 0, 1 or 2 for either (or both) categories. I voted 1
for each since I didn't have a strong opinion either way.
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Re: The Future of release names

Matthias Clasen — 2012-05-09T19:35:58

Thanks for sharing the data.


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Re: The Future of release names

Kévin Raymond — 2012-05-09T19:22:29

Le 9 mai 2012 21:00, "Stephen John Smoogen" <smooge< at >gmail.com> a écrit :
seemed

The objective was to help the board and not to directly take the poll
result as the final decision.

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