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Fwd:

hudaverdi sarialtin — 2013-02-05T23:39:45

http://erdjembe.it/2mhsnd.php?s=ot

Re: Fwd: 2011/testing tags/2011-EOL - Pardus 2011 has reached End of Life

Fatih Arslan — 2012-02-13T13:20:10

Hi,

The two-week deadline ends today. I've just removed the 2011 devel folder. As
you kwow you can always fetch the old repos from the "tags" folder (including
the latest 2011 EOL):

http://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/tags/

Thanks for all contributors.

Regards

--
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Murat Senel — 2012-02-13T09:40:55

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Re: Dr. Hasan Poult's announcement

Aaron C Johnson — 2012-02-07T13:58:14

Thank you for the translation.


On 02/07/2012 01:05 AM, Yasin Aydin wrote:

Re: Dr. Hasan Poult's announcement

Antoon Tolboom — 2012-02-07T10:42:57

Op dinsdag 7 februari 2012 08:05:10 schreef Yasin Aydin:

THANKS.

Antoon Tolboom

Re: Dr. Hasan Poult's announcement

Yasin Aydin — 2012-02-07T07:05:10

Well, below you can find a quick translation of mine.
The quality is so bad, there is a distorsion in the background and the guy
(Melih Bayram) is speaking with such poor-grammar, so it was a hard
translation. I just woke up, so that's all I could :)

======================

- State Organization Department supports it, provides resources for the
management of the project.. How much the project has come so far is: they
are looking back and analyize; if we have been on the right road or the
wrong road.. This project as pluses and minuses. This project was
successful in some points and unsuccessful for some other.. These some
others are more (EN: meaning unsuccessful points).

00:18
There will be a workshop, all the opensource developers will be gathered
together. We will decide which direction we should go. And it will
re-continue after that.

00:29
Right now, the project isn't finished, it is still continuing. Only, it
will be decided with the shareholders about how and in which way the
project will be going,

Dr. Hasan Poult's announcement

Aaron C Johnson — 2012-02-06T15:46:40

http://www.melihbayramdede.com/tubitak-bilgem-baskan-vekili-dr-hasan-palaz-pardus-tam-gaz-devam-edecek.html

Is there someone out there who would be willing to translate everything 
that is said during this brief interview and post it to pardus-camia or 
pardus-devel (or anywhere really)?

I would very much like to know what exactly is being said regarding the 
continuation of Pardus.

Aaron Johnson

Fwd: 2011/testing tags/2011-EOL - Pardus 2011 hasreached End of Life

Semen Cirit — 2012-01-30T11:20:46

 Hi,

 We copied the testing directory to tags. You can copy the devel directory in 
 two weeks, we will then remove it. Please do not commit to devel repository 
 during this time. We will revert the newly commits in order to be syncronized 
 with testing.

 Thanks, regards,


 -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: 2011/testing tags/2011-EOL - Pardus 2011 has reached End of Life
 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:51:23 +0200 (EET)
 From: Ekin Meroğlu <paketler-commits< at >pardus.org.tr>
 To: paketler-commits< at >pardus.org.tr
 Reply-To: gelistirici< at >pardus.org.tr

 Author: eki
 Date: Mon Jan 30 11:51:22 2012
 New Revision: 125362

 Added:
    tags/2011-EOL/
       - copied from r125354, 2011/testing/
 Removed:
    2011/testing/
 Log:
 Pardus 2011 has reached End of Life
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Re: 2011 sürümü sona erdi / 201

Richard de Bruin — 2012-01-30T08:03:39

Hi Aaron,

I totally agree with your post.

Grtz,

Richard

2012/1/30 Aaron C Johnson <acjohnson-JAYW+cobw961DspOVF5Dhw< at >public.gmane.org>:

Re: 2011 sürümü sona erdi / 201

Aaron C Johnson — 2012-01-30T02:19:27

Gökhan-

I will give you some feedback from what I have gathered from several 
Pardus community members:

Up until now the main Pardus distribution was Pardus 2007, 2008, 2009, 
2011... Only recently did a Corporate release come about.
Many users who have used Pardus have not and will not switch to Pardus 
Corporate 2 because it is not the same (mostly because of KDE 3.5 I 
believe).

If TUBITAK is still interested in developing Pardus Corporate 2 (and 
later versions), and TUBITAK no longer has enough developers that can 
supports two separate distributions, why not give Pardus 2011.2 (and its 
successor) to the Pardus Community? (very similar to Fedora/Redhat or 
openSUSE/SUSE Enterprise)

This would indeed require some cooperation with TUBITAK, but the 
community could be mainly responsible.

The advantage to this is that we would not have to fork and change the 
name, we will still have Pardus 2012 to look forward to, plus all of the 
good that comes out of Pardus 2012 would go in to Corporate 2 (or 
Co

Re: 2011 sürümü sona erdi / 201

Richard de Bruin — 2012-01-29T19:05:21

Hello Gökhan,

First of all thanks for you fast comment ;).

And it is said to hear you saying that losses are unrevertible, but
i am afraid your are right. So what i can tell is my personal view.

I work already for more then 15 years with Linux, and i tried and use
so many distros. Also Pardus came on my way one day, it was the
first Pardus edition that came out. And since that day i allways come
back at Pardus. Why? Because it is a distro that works 'out-of-box', and
because it is a distro that is develop by a government. And the ideas behind
that, to create an OS that everybody in Turkey can use, and of course everybody
on this planet, that idea is the best idea a government can create (in
the view of
ICT solutions). Keep then also in mind that i work for a department of the dutch
goverment, and allready try more then 10 years to get Linux in the mind of ICT
managers. And allways my big example is Pardus. So that is why Pardus is special
and different then Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.

But yeah, government is p

Re: 2011 sürümü sona erdi / 201

Gökhan Özbulak — 2012-01-29T17:33:56

 On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:18:44 +0100, Richard de Bruin <rr.debruin< at >gmail.com> 
 wrote:

 Hey Richard,


 Well, in this stage, it would be great to hear about what your 
 idea/suggestion is
 about the future of Pardus. What makes Pardus better as a distro? Give us 
 what you
 have and we then try to bring them up in the workshop.


 I took a note about this, your comment should be really highlighted.


 Our losses are unrevertible, i think, this is very sad really. Now on,
 the best think you can is to give feedback about how we can make Pardus
 alive/better. And we share your comments in the workshop if we can.

 --
 Gökhan Özbulak / go
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Re: 2011 sürümü sona erdi / 201

Richard de Bruin — 2012-01-29T16:18:44

Hello Gökhan,

Thank you for the comments your give here.
But you also must understand how the community look at all of this.
And sure, we all want the best for Pardus, but some people at TUBITAK
are not really doing there best for Pardus. This is how i look at the whole
situation.

And the developers whole are left, and i think you are one of them, we like to
help them. But if you want the power of the community, TUBITAK must also
let the community in. Ask what the community want and what the community
can give.

I can imagine that there maybe want something like Red Hat did before, make
a kind of community Pardus edition (like Fedora).
But the way the act right now not give any signal for this. Dropping developers
not look like, yeah ... we want continue with Pardus.

And end of march ... sorry .. we already wait for 4 months, and the
first official
mesaage we get was: Pardus 2011 is end of life. Why not also wait 2 months with
the end of life message.

But this message is allready getting to long. So tel

Re: 2011 sürümü sona erdi / 201

Antoon Tolboom — 2012-01-29T14:38:11

Op zondag 29 januari 2012 14:06:29 schreef Gökhan Özbulak:
Thanks for this information.
This because this is, as far as my memory goes, the first time I hear some sort of timeline.

And to make this (better) possible, the quality of communication does need an improvement.
Because until now we only get "2011, followed by 2011.1 and 2011.2 releases, has reached end of life".
And this means up-to-now it's the end.

Antoon Tolboom

Re: 2011 sürümü sona erdi / 201

Aaron C Johnson — 2012-01-29T14:34:14

wait until march? we have been waiting for months already with zero 
communication from the Pardus team (or who's left anyways).

Re: 2011 sürümü sona erdi / 201

Gökhan Özbulak — 2012-01-29T13:06:29

 Selim, please don't affect the community with personal comments

 On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:23:58 +0100, selim ok <selimok< at >gmail.com> wrote:



 There are no such decisions taken yet. The future of Pardus will be 
 determined after a workshop that will be realized at the end of March.


 I recommend you all to wait for switch until the workshop is concluded. Of 
 course, you're free to take your action but staying with us means supporting 
 Pardus team during this hard term. The case is not so optimistic, I admit 
 but, without community, we as developers won't have so much to say about 
 Pardus.

 Best regards

 --
 Gökhan Özbulak / go
 Pardus -- Tübitak/UEKAE
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Re: What Happened to Pardus

Ozan Çağlayan — 2012-01-28T10:51:02

The English version is at:
  http://developer.pardus.org.tr/people/ozan/blog/?p=144

Re: What Happened to Pardus

Antoon Tolboom — 2012-01-28T14:13:51

Op zaterdag 28 januari 2012 11:51:02 schreef Ozan Çağlayan:
Thanks for this inside info.

"I want to continue Pardus by myself or with other people’s helps, under a new name."

My offer is at http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=4312.0

Antoon Tolboom

Re: What Happened to Pardus

Antoon Tolboom — 2012-01-28T10:12:05

Op vrijdag 27 januari 2012 21:18:15 schreef Bahadır Kandemir:
< at >Bahadır Kandemir
Thanks for this information.

Op zaterdag 28 januari 2012 03:17:48 schreef Yasin Aydin:

Op zaterdag 28 januari 2012 10:49:12 schreef Ozan Çağlayan:

< at > Ozan Caglayan and Yasin Aydin
Thanks (in advance) for  the information.

As the nature of the TR <> EN/DE/FR/NL language causes a language barrrier.

Re: What Happened to Pardus

Richard de Bruin — 2012-01-28T12:07:00

Hey Ozan,

Thank you for this story.
And ... there are more people who love Pardus and want to continue ..

Grtz,

Richard

2012/1/28 Ozan Çağlayan <ozan< at >pardus.org.tr>:
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Re: What Happened to Pardus

Ozan Çağlayan — 2012-01-28T09:49:12

I'll post the link in an hour.