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Browsers and Linux

alex lupu — 2012-05-22T23:28:49


  but I don't wanna chat  :'(

Regards,

Re: Browsers and Linux

Jeremy Henty — 2012-05-22T20:47:19

This  belongs on blfs-chat,  if anywhere.   Post it  there and  see if
anyone replies.

Regards,

Jeremy Henty

Browsers and Linux

alex lupu — 2012-05-22T17:32:55

Hello,

Warning:   the following might be interesting (if at all)
because of its hidden (and subtle) punch line.
Other than that, not necessarily worth reading and/or considering.

As we all know, the major event of the year happened this weekend
when Chrome exceeded IE usage (even if for a fleeting moment -
however, the trend is there.  Firefox slid to third, they say.)

Be that as it may, I assume the comparison was made on the basis of
the apples to apples principle, i.e., Windows to Windows (to Windows).

As the Linux world is fading more and more into irrelevance (sorry for
hurting some people's feelings with this "disclosure"), I'm listing
a couple of personal experiences that, to me, never bode well for
Linux development and success.

1.  A paranoid behavior to never admit mistakes;  probably for
fear that an imaginary enemy (Microsoft?) might use the news to their
advantage.

The main example is the kernel.org (and others) recent lengthy outage
which elicited nary a discouraging word.
Hush hush in th

Re: mail headache

2012-05-22T05:16:21

 < snip>
 Ok .Thx for the pointer
 Thats what this macro does . It makes a copy of anything that 
matches the regular expession in the .sent folder to the designated 
folder. The .procmailrc file recipes deliver the list mails to their
respective folders. Everything else stays on the system mailbox and I 
can read them and choose to delete or save to the default local folder
which is mbox.
 So far it seems to work ; I made a similar "hook" for each list
THX,
### Mike Hollis ###

crow

2012-05-22T04:09:51

My apoligies to moderator .I got a little carried away and the statement 
about following the rules was out of line. Certainly we all have  
observe the rules or things would get out of hand quickly. I will 
confine my posts to on topic discussions. 

### Mike Hollis ###

Re: mail headache

Bruce Dubbs — 2012-05-21T23:19:24


Please trim off the footers when replying.

I use seamonkey.  When I send a message to the list or reply to the 
list, the client automatically saves a copy of what I sent.  An original 
message goes into 'Sent' no matter who it's addressed to, but that's OK. 
  A reply goes in the same folder where the original message is located. 
  Incoming messages go to different folders depending on rules I set up 
via a fairly easy to use 'Message Filter' tool.

If gmail also sent me copies of what I sent, I'd have a lot of 
duplicates and I'd have to try to figure out how to remove them.

I suspect a lot of mail clients have similar functionality.

   -- Bruce

Re: mail headache

2012-05-21T22:27:25

 snip

 I think I found a solution. In Muttrc :
fcc-save-hook test-list< at > =test-list

This worked for the test-list and preserves the threads. That's why I 
love mutt 

 
### Mike Hollis ###

Re: mail headache

2012-05-21T20:09:04

 Well ain't that a faux-pas calling a Texan a Brit. My Father was
born in Huttig ,Arkansas and lived around west Louisiana and Texas
in his early years, enlisted in the Army at Houston at the start of
WW2 and was was sent to Fort Bragg,N.C. for training , came home with
my mothers cousin and got transplanted to North Carolina. The last time
I went down there was to Hollis family reunion in Orange,Texas at his
brother's home . I have a picture somewhere of my father and I standing
beside a road sign that says "Cut and Shoot, Texas". 

### Mike Hollis ###

Re: OT vernacular, was Re: mail headache

2012-05-21T20:48:03

 I have been a Hendrix fan since I bought an album in 1967 with all
the wild artwork and most of the tunes never got much airplay. I think
it may have been the first. I don't recall that speech, but I do recall
an incident where he was playing a really wild riff and stopped,sat down
on the stage and said "That's what happens when you play space music."
 Thats about OTP as you can get but after you turn 60 you don't have to
follow the rules anymore.THX for the linguistic tidbit; It's comforting
to know that if I ever go to England and end up in a pub washing down
blood pudding with room temperature beer, I can say " Ain't ya'll got
any real food in here ? "  and be understood.


### Mike Hollis ###

Re: mail headache

Bruce Dubbs — 2012-05-21T14:56:20


LOL.  Ain't is a fine word here in Texas.

   -- Bruce

OT vernacular, was Re: mail headache

Ken Moffat — 2012-05-21T14:36:26

 I think Bruce is British in the sense of "West British" or "South
British" (to paraphrase a quote the between-tracks speech on an early
Jimi Hendrix live LP, released after he became famous).

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ain%27t#Regional_usage_and_dialects but
note that it's usage in the UK is more common than that article
currently implies.

ĸen

Re: mail headache

2012-05-21T08:02:34

  <snip> 
  <unsnip>

 Thanks for the prompt response . I was pulling what little hair I
have left out trying to grok this. That will wreak havoc with the 
threads , but perhaps a .procmailrc recipe with some study of the docs 
will provide an answer.
  *** off topic ***
BTW, if I remember correctly you are British. Is the term British pc ?
I recently reread Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. I'm not sure which book
but loosely quoted he wrote " Some things that look like Ents ain't".
I thought ain't was only southern U.S slang for isn't or am not. Is it
commonly used in Great Britain ?
 Thanks again,

### Mike Hollis ###

Re: libtool gsl question

Simon Geard — 2012-05-21T07:41:07

As Bruce noted, most of those parameters are options to GCC, not to
libtool.

In fact, most of that command is actually a GCC command line -
everything after the --mode option is a command that libtool may
manipulate before running, e.g to add flags needed for building shared
libraries vs static ones, etc.

Simon.

Re: mail headache

Bruce Dubbs — 2012-05-21T05:26:20

Your system is probably fine.  If you send a message to any list from 
gmail, it does not send a copy back to you.  There is no way that I know 
of to change that behavior.

   -- Bruce

mail headache

Mike Hollis — 2012-05-21T02:38:44

 This is probably the the wrong forum for this , but it doesn't hurt to 
ask. I posted to this list earlier and received the responses to the 
post but didn't get my own post back. I thought perhaps this was due
to using my gmail account and switched back to the service provider's
mail server for the list mail. I'm trying to close service providers
account because of extremely slow connections and other reasons and
I changed the list mail back to gmail.I also changed the sendmail config
to use smtp.gmail.com as a smart host instead of the providers smtp 
server and changed my generics table to reflect the change.
 I'm also subscribed to the test-list and the chat list and have the
the same problem there. I have bind9 set up per BLFS instructions 
(except I added a couple zone files and added the service providers
dns servers as forwarders).
 I just wonder if this some kind of reverse dns snafu. I just sent a 
mail to myself at the service providers server sent with gmail and
fetchmail pulled it fine. So , I'

Re: some broken links

John Burrell — 2012-05-20T20:36:04



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I know, I was pulling your leg. All for love but no dosh!

jb.

Re: some broken links

John Burrell — 2012-05-20T20:17:26



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I think that site is down now (all the files have 0 B) so may be they set the permissions to prevent access before taking it down.

I'll try one time tomorrow to see if it is accessible.

jb.

Re: some broken links

Bruce Dubbs — 2012-05-20T19:13:47


This one has the wrong permissions set.  I get permission denied 
although the libpthread-stubs-0.3.tar.gz file is OK.  For now, I just 
left the ftp reference empty.

   -- Bruce

Re: some broken links

Bruce Dubbs — 2012-05-20T18:50:29



We are all volunteers here.

http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/blfs/svn/w/whois_5.0.12.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/blfs/svn/w/whois_5.0.12.tar.gz

The better fix is to update to whois_5.0.16.  Ticket created.

ftp://mirror.nyi.net/apache/httpd/httpd-2.4.1.tar.bz2

We need to update to httpd-2.4.2.  Ticket created.

ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/blfs/svn/d/db-5.3.15.tar.gz

That's one mirror.  I updated the book to point to anduin a little bit 
ago.  Oracle's policies on download sucks.  That's why this was needed.

ftp://xorg.mirrors.pair.com/X11R7.6/src/everything/libpthread-stubs-0.3.tar.bz2

That one I didn't find.  I deleted the ftp reference in the book, but I 
can add it back.

   -- Bruce

Re: some broken links

John Burrell — 2012-05-20T18:06:54



 Ah you just want me to do your job for you!
I used these - but please try them before publishing because they may have changed.
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/blfs/svn/w/whois_5.0.12.tar.gzftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/blfs/svn/w/whois_5.0.12.tar.gzftp://mirror.nyi.net/apache/httpd/httpd-2.4.1.tar.bz2ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/blfs/svn/d/db-5.3.15.tar.gzftp://xorg.mirrors.pair.com/X11R7.6/src/everything/libpthread-stubs-0.3.tar.bz2
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Re: some broken links

Bruce Dubbs — 2012-05-20T16:51:57

    ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/w/whois/whois_5.0.12.tar.gz

ftp://apache.mirrors.pair.com/httpd/httpd-2.4.1.tar.bz2

ftp://mirror.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/distfiles/db-5.3.15.tar.gz

ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/lib/libpthread-stubs-0.3.tar.bz2

Thanks for the report.  It would be even more helpful to let us know 
what the proper urls should be.

   -- Bruce