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bug#8054: 24.0.50; Who ever heard of a version number that doesn't change all year?

2012-04-13T18:48:13

Dear debian-emacsen: shouldn't emacs be able to .,. OK never mind.


GbTS> Your bug report

GbTS> #8054: 24.0.50; Who ever heard of a version number that doesn't change all year?

GbTS> which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed.

GbTS> The explanation is attached below, along with your original report.
GbTS> If you require more details, please reply to 8054< at >debbugs.gnu.org.

GbTS> -- 
GbTS> 8054: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8054
GbTS> GNU Bug Tracking System
GbTS> Contact help-debbugs< at >gnu.org with problems


GbTS> From: Glenn Morris <rgm< at >gnu.org>
GbTS> Subject: Re: bug#8054: closed (Re: bug#8054: 24.0.50; Who ever heard of a version number that doesn't change all year?)
GbTS> To: 8054-done< at >debbugs.gnu.org
GbTS> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:00:55 -0400 (15 hours, 44 minutes, 28 seconds ago)

GbTS> jidanni< at >jidanni.org wrote:


GbTS> I suggest you take that up with the person who is kind enough to build
GbTS> Emacs for you. Or learn to build it yourself.

GbTS> ----------


GbTS>

Garbaged X11 emacs windows

Phillip Garland — 2012-03-26T02:01:02

Hello,

Starting a few days ago, GNU Emacs became unusable for me on X11.

If I perform some operation within emacs that updates the contents of the
buffer, the X11 window displays something like the new contents
superimposed on the old contents.

For example, if I run "emacs -q" , it will launch and show the *GNU Emacs*
buffer with the welcome text and the red and blue drawing of the gnu. If I
hit "C-h i" to go to the top level of Info, the X11 window shows the
standard *info* buffer mixed with of the *GNU Emacs* buffer- part of the
red/blue drawing is visible, as well as some of the welcome text.

I've put a screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/iUuZB.png

The terminal version of emacs does not have this problem- if I run "emacs
-nw", this garbaging doesn't happen.

If I switch to a different virtual desktop, then switch back to the virtual
desktop containing emacs, or if I resize the X11 emacs window, the emacs
X11 window becomes ungarbaged. Unfortunately, if I perform another
operation within emacs, the em

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emacs vs. dconf

2012-02-21T23:45:14

Whatever is doing this should at least first check for a dconf
executable.

Doesn't happen with -nw.

# aptitude purge dconf
# su - nobody
No directory, logging in with HOME=/
nobody< at >jidanni2:/$ emacs -Q

** (emacs:3049): CRITICAL **: unable to create '/nonexistent/.cache/dconf'; dconf will not work properly.
nobody< at >jidanni2:/$ apt-cache policy emacs-snapshot
emacs-snapshot:
  Installed: 2:20120208-1
  Candidate: 2:20120208-1
  Version table:
 *** 2:20120208-1 0
        500 http://emacs.naquadah.org/ unstable/ Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Same with
# su -
# emacs -Q
** (emacs:2546): WARNING **: The connection is closed
# strace emacs -Q > /tmp/f 2>&1 #doesn't help find the culprit, with
surely is some X windows component.

Re: emacsen-common: Please symlink to the .el when byte compiling for each emacsen

Rob Browning — 2012-02-11T22:05:19


This is what I just uploaded to unstable in emacsen-common 1.4.23, along
with changes that make emacsen-common itself follow the new policy.  Let
me know if you think we need additional changes.

Thanks

emacsen-common: Please symlink to the .el when byte compiling for each emacsen

Rob Browning — 2012-02-11T21:19:38

Michael Olson <mwolson< at >member.fsf.org> writes:



 [...]

I've finally added something to this effect for an upcoming release
(probably a 1.4.23 release unless I get the major 2.0.0 overhaul out
fairly quickly -- that's more or less working now):

 E) If an add-on package compiles any of its Emacs Lisp sources (which
    must be compiled to a subdirectory of
    /usr/share/<flavor>/site-lisp/<package-name> -- see section 4
    above) it must also create a symlink in the same directory as the
    compiled output that points to the corresponding source file.

    For example, if add-on package foo produces
    /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/foo/bar.elc, then it must also create
    a symlink /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/foo/bar.el pointing to
    the corresponding source file.  This ensures that Emacs will be
    able to locate the source code for the add-on package when using
    M-x find-function, etc.


I haven't added this yet because I think existing policy requirements
should already have the intended eff

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Re: upgrading emacs when emacs is still running

Romain Francoise — 2011-10-20T17:21:59

... and fwiw, I disagree with 2008-me; pgrep and a simple readlink on
/proc/$pid/exe would probably work well enough for that purpose.

Re: upgrading emacs when emacs is still running

Sven Joachim — 2011-10-20T07:12:21


FWIW, there used to be one, but it was removed in the 20080613 snapshot:

$ git show 241c879e25
commit 241c879e25b8b40dbff3871277c911c1b8a333eb
Author: Romain Francoise <romain< at >orebokech.com>
Date:   Fri Jun 13 19:24:40 2008 +0200

    Drop check for running emacsen in preinst
    
    lsof hangs if the system has unreachable NFS mounts, which happens more
    often than one may think.  As this prevents installation of the package,
    a rather grave bug, let's drop the check instead of trying to tune
    lsof's parameters.

diff --git a/emacs.preinst b/emacs.preinst
old mode 100644
new mode 100755
index e92f3c8..f059cf8
--- a/emacs.preinst
+++ b/emacs.preinst
< at >< at > -8,21 +8,6 < at >< at > if [ "$1" = "upgrade" ] && \
     update-alternatives --remove emacs /usr/bin/< at >BIN_NAME< at >-< at >X_SUPPORT< at >
 fi
 
-# If lsof is installed, look for running Emacsen.  If any are found,
-# warn the user that changing Emacs's files from under it isn't safe...
-# We don't bother trying to find processes if lsof isn't installed;
-# using pgrep o

upgrading emacs when emacs is still running

2011-10-19T23:20:03

Every time on Debian I use aptitude to
The following packages will be upgraded:
  emacs-snapshot  emacs-snapshot-bin-common (for emacs-snapshot)
  emacs-snapshot-common (for emacs-snapshot, emacs-snapshot-el)
  emacs-snapshot-el
I have to remember to exit any running emacs sessions first, lest
later encountering problems when old emacs reads new .elcs, etc.
Updating Firefox never has such problems.
OK, hard to work around, also too much fuss to put warnings into the
Debian update script: "a running emacs session was detected, proceed?"

Re: DELETE-FRAME kills Emacs daemon

Julien Danjou — 2011-10-17T07:50:23


Obviously, since it's a GTK+ 3 related issue like you was able to read
in bug #8501.


No, really, I'd prefer the bug to be fixed. But feel free to recompile
your own copy.


Yes, it does.

Re: DELETE-FRAME kills Emacs daemon

Desmond O. Chang — 2011-10-16T19:35:02

OK, I will report it to upstream. :)

BTW, when I recompiled your package with gtk2.0, the problem
disappeared.  Could you provide a gtk2 version for emacs-snapshot
until this bug is fixed?

BTW2, emacs-snapshot-lucid always crashes on my system when entering
GUI mode.

$ emacs-snapshot-lucid -Q
Fatal error (11)Segmentation fault

$ emacs-snapshot-lucid -Q -nw
# OK

$ ldd /usr/bin/emacs-snapshot-lucid | grep 'not found'
# no output

Does it work on your system?

Thanks,
Des

Re: DELETE-FRAME kills Emacs daemon

Julien Danjou — 2011-10-14T08:02:31


It's never a packaging issue. :)

DELETE-FRAME kills Emacs daemon

Desmond O. Chang — 2011-10-13T14:08:49

Hi Julien,

Recently the Emacs daemon on my system always dies when I try to close
the GUI emacsclient using `delete-frame'.

The last worked version is 1:20110914-1.

$ dpkg -l emacs-snapshot\*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                          Version                       Description
+++-=============================-=============================-==========================================================================
ii  emacs-snapshot                1:20111012-1                  The GNU Emacs editor (development snapshot)
ii  emacs-snapshot-bin-common     1:20111012-1                  The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture dependent files
ii  emacs-snapshot-common         1:20111012-1                  The GNU Emacs editor's common infrastructure
un  emacs-snapshot-el             <none>                        (no description available)
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Re: emacs on a text console - please help me overcome the shock

Ben Pfaff — 2011-09-09T03:46:02


The mouse should work in Emacs over SSH from an xterm.  Try
(xterm-mouse-mode 1).  It works for me.

There's also a mode to make the mouse work from a Linux console,
if gpm is running.  I haven't used it in a long time.  Look
around for t-mouse.el.

can no longer suspend emacs and get back to the shell

2011-09-02T21:40:53

Try this with Debian emacs-snapshot 1:20110902-1 and icewm in an xterm:
$ emacs -Q
Then in emacs hit ^Z
Now we are staring at the calling shell's window.
But we cannot do anything.
This started happening two weeks ago.

The interesting thing is that if one now does ALT TAB twice, switching
back and forth to the shell window again, one can now type ^Z, ^C etc.
like one used to be able to.

So that means this must not be an emacs problem, but instead an icewm or
X windows problem, just like what happens when one exits firefox, one
needs to switch back and forth to regain the ability to type into the
original shell.

In emacs' case the problem occurs when one types ^Z, not at exit though.