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Re: New version of XMPP over Websocket draft

Ben Campbell — 2013-05-21T20:00:20

(as XMPP co-chair)

Thanks, Lance!

I'd like to remind everyone that XMPP over WebSocket is on our charter. The chairs will shortly call the question about whether this draft should be adopted as a working group draft for that work. I encourage everyone to take a look at the update and discuss it, and think about whether it's on the right track.

Thanks!

Ben.

On May 18, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Lance Stout <lance< at >andyet.net> wrote:

New version of XMPP over Websocket draft

Lance Stout — 2013-05-18T21:49:28

I've updated the XMPP over WebSocket draft to include:

- Several examples for establishing the WebSocket connection, closing the
    connection, and performing a stream restart.
- Adjust language for pings to note that XEP-0198 provides a keepalive
    pinging mechanism as well.
- Modify language on closing the connection, noting that the XMPP streams
    should be explicitly closed before closing the WebSocket connection.
- Added recommendation to use XEP-0198 stream management.
- Added note that a server should keep the session alive (based on policy)
    if a connection is closed without closing the streams (XEP-0198).
- Added section on using XEP-0156 to discover the WebSocket connection 
    endpoint. I've emailed the XMPP Registrar to register the
    _xmpp-client-websocket connection method name. I've also asked the XMPP
    standards list about creating a .well-known/ document to supplement the
    method defined in XEP-0156 as browser based clients that will use the
    WebSocket transport can't ma

Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

2013-04-27T17:56:53

We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on  
the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP 
( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia 
from University of Georgia, USA.


We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper 
with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous 
fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: 

(1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa
(2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic
(3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance
(4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model 
(5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer
(6). Laptop is an example for a super computer
(7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware


Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning.  However, it 
was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without 
any reviews) and we were invited to submit t

6122bis: leading and trailing whitespace

Peter Saint-Andre — 2013-04-16T23:32:21

Going through old email, I found a note to myself sent during IETF 86
about adding something to 6122bis about leading and trailing whitespace.
This must refer to handling of resourceparts (since the PRECIS
IdentifierClass does not allow spaces), and in fact I thought we had
added something about that long ago but I don't find it in 6122bis.
However, draft-ietf-precis-nickname does contain such text:

   4.  Leading and trailing whitespace (i.e., one or more instances of
       the ASCII space character at the beginning or end of a nickname)
       MUST be removed (e.g., "stpeter " is mapped to "stpeter").

It seems like good advice in general for resourceparts. Does anyone have objections to adding it?

Peter

Fwd: Last Call: (Instant Messaging and Presence Purpose for the Call-Info Header Field in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard

Peter Saint-Andre — 2013-04-16T20:19:05

Perhaps of interest here...

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Last Call: <draft-saintandre-impp-call-info-02.txt> (Instant
Messaging and Presence Purpose for the Call-Info Header Field in the
Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:07:59 -0700
From: The IESG <iesg-secretary< at >ietf.org>
Reply-To: ietf< at >ietf.org
To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce< at >ietf.org>

The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:
- 'Instant Messaging and Presence Purpose for the Call-Info Header Field
   in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)'
  <draft-saintandre-impp-call-info-02.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf< at >ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-05-14. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to iesg< at >ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
beginning of the Subject line to allow automated

Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item

Peter Saint-Andre — 2013-04-16T01:38:32

Will do.

Peter

Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work groupitem

Ben Campbell — 2013-04-16T01:18:54

Hi Everyone,

We've had several speak in favor of adoption, and unless I missed something, none against. Please consider the draft adopted as a working group item towards our shared server milestone. 

Authors, please resubmit as draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02 as soon as is convenient.

Thanks!

Ben.

On Apr 6, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Ben Campbell <ben< at >nostrum.com> wrote:

Fwd: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna-02.txt

Peter Saint-Andre — 2013-04-15T22:34:43

FYI. Mostly small fixes, plus an update to reference draft-ietf-dane-srv
instead of draft-miller-xmpp-dnssec-prooftype, as discussed in Orlando.

Peter

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna-02.txt
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:32:04 -0700
From: internet-drafts< at >ietf.org
Reply-To: internet-drafts< at >ietf.org
To: i-d-announce< at >ietf.org

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

Title           : Domain Name Associations (DNA) in the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP)
Author(s)       : Peter Saint-Andre
                          Matthew Miller
Filename        : draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna-02.txt
Pages           : 14
Date            : 2013-04-15

Abstract:
   This document improves the security of the Extensible Messaging and
   Presence Protocol (XMPP) in two ways.  First, it specifies how
   "prooftypes" can establish a strong association between a domain name
   and an XML stream.  Second, it describes how to

Re: Anonymity and PFR with Miller's E2E proposal (Was: SelfIntroduction)

Richard Barnes — 2013-04-12T20:37:49

Hey Jon,

Sorry for the late reply.  If you're interested in DH for JWK, I would
suggest sending a message to the JOSE mailing list.  Other than that, your
syntax looks OK to me, although I would just use standard letters, like "p"
for "prime" and "g" for "generator".

Also, as to the IPR on ECC, there's some story about how to do it IPR-free:
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6090>

Best,
--Richard





On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Jon Kristensen <info< at >jonkri.com> wrote:

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Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work groupitem

Dave Cridland — 2013-04-09T21:39:35

I support adoption, and see it as a good way of starting pointed discussion
in tents.
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Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item

Peter Saint-Andre — 2013-04-09T19:10:31

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On 4/9/13 11:31 AM, Philipp Hancke wrote:

Strange, I saw it as an intense starting point for good discussion. :P

Peter

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Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item

Philipp Hancke — 2013-04-09T17:31:40

yea, it looks like a good starting point for intense discussion.

Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work groupitem

Matthew Wild — 2013-04-08T10:40:15

I agree with the more modular approach taken by this document, and I
believe it provides necessary documentation on integrating alternative
prooftypes into the authentication flow that is not available in RFC
6120.

Therefore I support adoption, and the replacement of draft-ietf-xmpp-dna.

Regards,
Matthew

Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item

Ludovic BOCQUET — 2013-04-08T00:49:28

I support adoption.

BOCQUET Ludovic
An XSF member
XMPP Standards Foundation
http://xmpp.org/

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Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item

Kim Alvefur — 2013-04-07T08:58:52


I support adoption.

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Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work groupitem

Lance Stout — 2013-04-07T06:56:40

I support adoption.

Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work groupitem

Jack Moffitt — 2013-04-07T03:31:32

I support adoption.

jack.

Re: Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work groupitem

Ben Campbell — 2013-04-06T22:57:59

Hi,

I received no responses to this consensus call.

Normally, I would take this as a sign of disinterest. But I've spoken to a number of people who support this, and I think we had support in the room in Orlando. That being said, the official decision lies with the working group list.

So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send comments, including "I support adoption" or "I do not support adoption" to the working group list no later than Friday, 12 April.

Thanks!

Ben.

On Apr 2, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Ben Campbell <ben< at >nostrum.com> wrote:

Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item

Ben Campbell — 2013-04-02T22:36:44

Hi,

This is a short consensus call on the adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a working group draft for our "server-to-server connection reuse" milestone. If we do so, this will replace the existing draft-ietf-xmpp-dna. (probably by becoming draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02.)

Please note that this adoption is independent from any potential adoption of draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype or draft-miller-xmpp-dnssec-prooftype. We are still exploring where the work from those drafts should land.

Please send yea/nay or other related comments to the XMPP list by the end of this week.

Thanks!

Ben.

Fwd: Last Call: (The WebSocket Protocol as a Transport for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard

Peter Saint-Andre — 2013-04-01T17:56:24

FYI, since the concept is similar to the WebSocket binding for XMPP...

/psa

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Last Call: <draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-websocket-08.txt> (The
WebSocket Protocol as a Transport for the Session Initiation Protocol
(SIP)) to Proposed Standard
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:54:09 -0700
From: The IESG <iesg-secretary< at >ietf.org>
Reply-To: ietf< at >ietf.org
To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce< at >ietf.org>
CC: sipcore< at >ietf.org

The IESG has received a request from the Session Initiation Protocol Core
WG (sipcore) to consider the following document:
- 'The WebSocket Protocol as a Transport for the Session Initiation
   Protocol (SIP)'
  <draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-websocket-08.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf< at >ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-04-15. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to iesg< at >ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
beginning of the Sub

Re: another e2e approach

Kevin Smith — 2013-03-29T18:19:01

Gah, how did I miss that? Thanks.

/K