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Re: oddity,tools page not updating for 5+ hours - what's reasonable?

Fred Baker — 2012-05-22T06:35:13

THanks

On May 21, 2012, at 6:19 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:

Re: Interim minutes ➔ Etherpad?

Carsten Bormann — 2012-05-21T15:12:32


Thanks, will do that.

One potential consideration though.
Note-takers in interims (i.e., outside an IETF meeting) are often participating from heavily firewalled places, so the port 9001 might create problems.

Grüße, Carsten

Re: oddity, tools page not updating for 5+ hours - what's reasonable?

Stephen Farrell — 2012-05-21T13:49:57

Hi Henrik,

On 05/21/2012 02:19 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:

Thanks for that.
S.

Re: Interim minutes ➔ Etherpad?

Henrik Levkowetz — 2012-05-21T13:36:04

Hi Carsten,

On 2012-05-16 13:33 Carsten Bormann said:

I don't have a general solution for that in place, but can always point
to one on request.  In this case, I would have said

  http://grenache.tools.ietf.org:9001/p/notes-interim-2012-core-1

but I guess that's too late now, so for the next one at least you can use

  http://grenache.tools.ietf.org:9001/p/notes-interim-2012-core-2

Best regards,

Henrik

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Re: oddity, tools page not updating for 5+ hours - what's reasonable?

Henrik Levkowetz — 2012-05-21T13:19:39

Hi Stephen, Fred,

There was an issue with the rsync server on www.ietf.org, which has
now been resolved.

Thanks for the alert.

With respect to Stephen's question (below) of the reasonable time
to expect between posting an I-D and the tools page being updated,
the answer is that going to the html copy of an explicit (new) version
can be expected to work in at most 3 minutes from posting.  Earlier
versions can be expected to show the new version in the list of
versions in the header within 1 hour at the most.  If not, an email
to webmaster< at >tools.ietf.org would be much appreciated.

Best regards,

Henrik

On 2012-05-17 19:58 Fred Baker said:

Re: [irsg] IRTF extensions to IRTF datatracker

Eggert, Lars — 2012-05-18T13:24:35

Hi,

thanks for the feedback!

I'm CC'ing the tools folks, since I don't know what the issue may be.

Lars

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Re: oddity,tools page not updating for 5+ hours - what's reasonable?

Fred Baker — 2012-05-17T17:58:53

It's worse than that. Check

    http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis
    http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis

Version -09 was posted two days ago and is reflected in the data tracker, but the tools site still has -08, and my rsync mirror of the IETF site (which I ran manually a few moments go) still contains -08.

    rsync -uavz --delete www.ietf.org::internet-drafts  /Users/fred/draft


On May 17, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:

oddity,tools page not updating for 5+ hours - what's reasonable?

Stephen Farrell — 2012-05-17T14:23:18

Hiya,

HOKEY posted a -07 update to [1] about 5 hours ago but
the tools page is still showing -06 (and ID-nits checks
that too), though -07 exists in the tracker. [2]

Normally, I've only seen this take a few minutes. I
do understand that we shouldn't expect this all to
be instant.

So, the reason for my mail: what is the reasonable
time to expect between posting an I-D and the tools
page being updated?

And who knows, maybe this is a sign of some other
issue with the servers or the draft.

Apologies in advance if this is fixed by the time
you read this:-) And thanks of course for all the
great work!

Thanks,
S.

[1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hokey-rfc5296bis
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hokey-rfc5296bis/

Re: Interim minutes ➔ Etherpad?

Peter Saint-Andre — 2012-05-16T12:21:51

Etherpad is supposed to be always on for your use, e.g., at
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/core/minutes

However, right now there seems to be a server problem on
grenache.tools.ietf.org

Peter

Interim minutes ➔ Etherpad?

Carsten Bormann — 2012-05-16T11:33:37

What is the best way to get an Etherpad for taking minutes in interim meetings?

Grüße, Carsten

Re: forced to comment when changing ID state

Eggert, Lars — 2012-05-16T11:02:09

Hi,

On May 16, 2012, at 12:59, Eggert, Lars wrote:

correction: it does show up, but with the the wrong date (looks to be the date of the previous history item.)

For example, for https://datatracker.ietf.org/streams/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api/edit/state/, my comment should have a date of "2012-05-16 03:57" which is when I changed the state, and not "2012-01-27 00:00".

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forced to comment when changing ID state

Eggert, Lars — 2012-05-16T10:59:59

Hi,

when I change the state of an ID, e.g.,

https://datatracker.ietf.org/streams/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api/edit/state/

I am forced to enter a comment. That's a bit odd, because normally I have no comments here.

Even weirder, that comment then doesn't even show up in the "state history" on the bottom of the page or on the documents history page.

Can we make entering a comment here optional please?
Can we fix the bug so that if a comment is entered, it is not lost?

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Re: handling "replaced-by" via the datatracker [Re:latest missingreplaced-by information]

Adrian Farrel — 2012-05-11T09:24:52

Hi,

This popped up at the IESG retreat and Robert agreed to put it on the Tools Team
To Do list.

Is this a good time to remind you all of the code sprint that takes place on the
day before each IETF meeting? Come along and help make the features you want to
use a reality.

Cheers,
Adrian

replaced-

Re: handling "replaced-by" via the datatracker [Re: latest missing replaced-by information]

Martin Vigoureux — 2012-05-11T11:02:09

great! Thanks.

-m

Le 11/05/2012 11:24, Adrian Farrel a écrit :

handling "replaced-by" via the datatracker [Re: latest missing replaced-by information]

Martin Vigoureux — 2012-05-11T08:48:49

Hello,

following up on that discussion, unless I am mistaken I do not see any 
way to manage the replaced-by status of drafts in the datatracker.
This applies both to drafts with a revision number greater or equal than 
01 and to newly adopted drafts.
If I am wrong I'd be glad if one of you could indicate me the way to
manage the replaced-by information via the tracker.
Otherwise, I think it would definitely be good if chairs could manage
this status via the tracker, and there seem to be some support for that.

Thanks
martin


Le 18/04/2012 16:18, ah< at >TR-Sys.de a écrit :

suggestion for IRTF dashboard page

Eggert, Lars — 2012-05-10T17:45:20

Hi,

I'm having the IRSG switch to the new datatracker for new IRTF-stream documents. (Instead of using trac tickets.)

One missing bit of functionality is that trac offered me ways to query for tickets, so I could understand which state the IRTF documents are in.

Could some sort of "IRTF dashboard" be added to the datatracker? Basically, a list of IRTF stream documents e.g. sorted by state?

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Re: query about support - multiple jabber or etherpad - use this please

Murphy, Sandra — 2012-05-10T17:38:17

Great!  So it looks do-able. 

I did not mean to ask for two jabber rooms AND an etherpad.  The point is to have two input places, total.

I was not sure the etherpad was going to be an ongoing standard feature, which is why I asked.

--Sandy

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] query about support - multiple jabber or etherpad - use this please

Hi Glen!

On 5/9/12 4:17 PM, Glen wrote:

Well, right now we already can do one jabber room and one etherpad,
because that's the default setup.l If we want two jabber rooms, we could
easily set up sidr-notes< at >jabber.ietf.org (for active taking of notes) in
addition to the standard sidr< at >jabber.ietf.org room. Or so it seems to me.

Peter

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Re: query about support - multiple jabber or etherpad - use this please

Peter Saint-Andre — 2012-05-10T01:42:11

Hi Glen!

On 5/9/12 4:17 PM, Glen wrote:

Well, right now we already can do one jabber room and one etherpad,
because that's the default setup.l If we want two jabber rooms, we could
easily set up sidr-notes< at >jabber.ietf.org (for active taking of notes) in
addition to the standard sidr< at >jabber.ietf.org room. Or so it seems to me.

Peter

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query about support - multiple jabber or etherpad -use this please

Glen — 2012-05-09T22:17:50

Sandy -

When ietf-action is copied on another email, it generates a ticket and a
series of alerts, and every reply to the conversation generates additional
alerts in the action queue.

So I'm resending this message to your lists, and asking everyone to please use 
this thread rather than the previous one for replies, so that the ticketing
system doesn't explode.  :-)

I'm sure that anything is possible, but I do think that this is a discussion
for the tools team, and, possibly, others.

It's not really a "problem for AMS to fix", so I can't really do anything with
it in the ticketing system.  :-)

If the tools team has no ideas, please feel free to email me directly at:
glen< at >amsl.com and I will try to ask around and see who might know more about
this.

Sorry to be a problem, thank you so much for your understanding...

Glen
Glen Barney
IT Director
AMS (IETF Secretariat)

query about support - multiple jabber or etherpad

Murphy, Sandra — 2012-05-09T21:33:03

I'm not sure if this is a secretariat question or a tools team question.

The sidr wg had an interim meeting on 30 Apr.

As a result of the experience, there's a desire to have both a chat capability and a viewable realtime note taking capability.

The two capabilities might be provided by having two jabber windows, or a jabber window and an etherpad window.

Is that possible?  That is, an interim wg meeting could either have two jabber windows, or have an etherpad as has been provided at the last few IETF meeting in addition to the usual wg jabber?

--Sandy, sidr co-chair

Re: individual web pages to support public ietf tools and technologies?

Dave Crocker — 2012-05-08T17:37:36


On 5/8/2012 1:28 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
...


if someone wants to give me admin access to abnf.tools.ietf.org (or 
whatever the name should be) I'm glad to take that on.

d/