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Fwd: IETF Meeting in South America

Andrew G. Malis — 2013-05-23T19:11:14

PWE3ers,

Just FYI in case you haven't seen this on the main IETF lists. See the
email for instructions on how to comment on the proposed meeting location.

Cheers,
Andy

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From: The IAOC <bob.hinden< at >gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Subject: IETF Meeting in South America
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Cc: ietf< at >ietf.org


As you may know the IAOC has been investigating the feasibility of having
an IETF
meeting in South America.  There was a site visit to South America last
February.
We have found two venues that we believe will support a successful IETF
meeting
and we would like to get feedback from the community.

The venues are in Buenos Aires.  They meet our requirements for the meeting
space, networking, nearby restaurants and bars, hotel room rates in the mid
$200
dollar range, nearby alternate hotels at a broad range of prices, nice area
in the
city, safe, direct international flights, and accessible visas.  The IAOC
thinks we
coul

Re: Retiring ACH TLVs

Andrew G. Malis — 2013-05-08T18:13:55

PWE3ers,

Comments on this draft should be directed to the mpls email list only.
Replying directly to Adrian's email (and not typing in the pwe3 list as
well) should accomplish that goal.

Thanks,
Andy


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Adrian Farrel <adrian< at >olddog.co.uk> wrote:

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Retiring ACH TLVs

Adrian Farrel — 2013-05-07T17:08:34

Hi,

ACH TLVs keep popping up and causing Stewart and me trouble. Mainly it is about explaining why no-one actually wants to use them (i.e., when each new ACH Type is defined and has a "No TLVs" written for it, we get asked "why not?").

It seems to us that ACH TLVs are an idea that has been rejected. Initially we thought they might be used (especially for identifiers), but there seems to be good opinion that handling generic TLVs would be a pain.

Since I was heavily responsible for insisting that ACH TLVs were included in RFC 5586, it seems reasonable that I do the work to fix it.

The I-D below retires ACH TLVs and handles the necessary registry changes.

Note, of course, that structured data are still possible within individual ACHs if the protocol spec for an individual ACH decides to have them.

We're directing this work to the MPLS working group because that is where 5586 was written. I have BCC'ed PWE3, L2VPN, and BFD for information. 

Thanks for any comments.

As humble WG contributors we would be

Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

2013-04-27T17:27:01

Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science


We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on  
the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP 
( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia 
from University of Georgia, USA.


We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper 
with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous 
fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: 

(1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa
(2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic
(3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance
(4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model 
(5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer
(6). Laptop is an example for a super computer
(7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware


Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning.  However, it 
was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without

Re: [mpls] MPLS related liaison from ITU-T SG15

Stewart Bryant — 2013-04-09T07:23:11

Scott, I see a list of document names, but no document text to review.

Stewart
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Re: WG adoption poll ofhttp://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv-02

Andrew G. Malis — 2013-04-02T19:47:10

This closes the WG adoption call. Greg, please resubmit the draft as
draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-tp-cv-adv-00, with no other changes.

Thanks,
Andy



On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Andrew G. Malis <amalis< at >gmail.com> wrote:

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[PWE3} solicit for comments: "PW endpoint fast failure protection" draft

Yimin Shen — 2013-03-20T14:56:55

Hi,

We presented the "PW endpoint fast failure protection" draft rev-03 during IETF 86. We'd like to thank the WG charis for the comment on LDP backward capatability and LDP capability negotiation for the new LDP extenstion defined in the draft. We are going to address this in the next revision.

Meanwhile, we'd also like to solicit comments through this mailing list. We'd like to appreciate your review and opinions on the draft. To make this a little easier, I'm attaching the slides of the presentation for your reference.

Draft URL: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-shen-pwe3-endpoint-fast-protection-03.txt


Thanks,

-Yimin Shen
Juniper Networks






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Re: Inquiry to adopt draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv

Andrew G. Malis — 2013-03-13T13:26:12

Loa,

Thanks, yes, once it becomes a draft-ietf-pwe3 draft it'll show up on
the pwe3 page. I'll also make sure that the secretariat is aware of
the replaced-by information.

Cheers,
Andy

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Loa Andersson <loa< at >pi.nu> wrote:

Re: Inquiry to adopt draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv

Loa Andersson — 2013-03-13T13:01:02

Andy,

I support adopting this draft; as I pointed out at the PWE3 meeting
it doe not show up on the PWE3weg page because of naming, this should
be corrected when it becomes a wg draft.

/Loa

On 2013-03-11 18:35, Malis, Andrew G (Andy) wrote:

WG adoption poll ofhttp://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv-02

Andrew G. Malis — 2013-03-11T17:58:19

PWE3ers,

As requested by Greg, this begins a call for WG adoption of
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv-02 . This is a
stable draft that has been around for over a year now and has been
discussed both at IETF-83 and on the list.

Please reply to this email whether or not you support adoption of this
draft. Reasons are not required, but are helpful for the WG. We would
like to see a good show of support rather than just a few emails.
Indications that the draft has actually been read would also be
greatly appreciated.

The author has already stated that he is not aware of any IPR that
applies to the draft.

As this is IETF week, this will be a three-week poll, ending 1 April.

Thanks,
Andy

Re: Inquiry to adopt draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv

Malis, Andrew G (Andy — 2013-03-11T17:35:47

Greg,

Thanks! Sorry for the first name thing, I was working on a couple of
emails and got them crossed. :-(

Cheers,
Andy

On 3/11/2013 13:32 , "Gregory Mirsky" <gregory.mirsky< at >ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi Andrew,
I'm not aware of any IPR associated with this draft.

Regards,
Greg 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew G. Malis [mailto:amalis< at >gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:29 AM
To: Gregory Mirsky
Cc: pwe3-chairs< at >tools.ietf.org; pwe3< at >ietf.org
Subject: Re: [PWE3] Inquiry to adopt draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv

Carlos,

Thanks. As prep for sending a WG adoption call, as sole author are you
aware of any IPR associated with this draft?

Cheers,
Andy

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Gregory Mirsky
<gregory.mirsky< at >ericsson.com> wrote:

Re: Inquiry to adopt draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv

Gregory Mirsky — 2013-03-11T17:32:05

Hi Andrew,
I'm not aware of any IPR associated with this draft.

Regards,
Greg 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew G. Malis [mailto:amalis< at >gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:29 AM
To: Gregory Mirsky
Cc: pwe3-chairs< at >tools.ietf.org; pwe3< at >ietf.org
Subject: Re: [PWE3] Inquiry to adopt draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv

Carlos,

Thanks. As prep for sending a WG adoption call, as sole author are you aware of any IPR associated with this draft?

Cheers,
Andy

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky< at >ericsson.com> wrote:

Re: Inquiry to adopt draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv

Andrew G. Malis — 2013-03-11T17:29:08

Carlos,

Thanks. As prep for sending a WG adoption call, as sole author are you
aware of any IPR associated with this draft?

Cheers,
Andy

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Gregory Mirsky
<gregory.mirsky< at >ericsson.com> wrote:

Inquiry to adopt draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv

Gregory Mirsky — 2013-03-11T17:20:17

Dear WG Chairs, et al.,
draft-mirsky-mpls-tp-cv-adv-xx work been presented, discussed and is stable in its current form. I'd like to ask PWE3 WG to adopt this document at this time.

        Regards,
                Greg

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Fwd: [mpls] Working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ip-pw-capability-03.txt

Andrew G. Malis — 2013-03-10T19:20:24

This MPLS WG last call is also of interest to the PWE3 WG, sorry for not
forwarding it sooner. If you would like to comment on this last call,
please do so on the mpls< at >ietf.org email list.

Thanks,
Andy

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Loa Andersson <loa< at >pi.nu>
Date: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:52 AM
Subject: [mpls] Working group last call on
draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ip-pw-capability-03.txt
To: "mpls< at >ietf.org" <mpls< at >ietf.org>
Cc: "<mpls-ads< at >tools.ietf.org>" <mpls-ads< at >tools.ietf.org>, "
mpls-chairs< at >tools.ietf.org" <mpls-chairs< at >tools.ietf.org>,
draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ip-pw-capability< at >tools.ietf.org

Working Group,

this is to start a two week Working Group last call on
draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ip-pw-**capability-03.txt.

Please send your comments to the mpls working group
mailing list (mpls< at >ietf.org).

Please send both technical comments, and if you are happy
with the document as is also indications of support.

There are no IPR claims against this draft.

Booth the co-authors have earlier stated that they are no

Re: PWE3 IETF 86 Slot Requests - Orlando

Andrew G. Malis — 2013-03-07T19:25:01

All,

At this point, we have not yet received ANY of the slide presentations
for next week. Please send them to Dave as soon as you can, this not
only helps the chairs run an efficient meeting, but it's also being
considerate of both local and remote attendees by allowing them to
download the talks ahead of (or during) the session.

Remember, if you don't submit your slides, you risk losing your slot
on the agenda.

Thanks,
Andy

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:28 PM, David Sinicrope
<david.sinicrope< at >ericsson.com> wrote:

Re: PWE3 IETF 86 Slot Requests - Orlando

David Sinicrope — 2013-02-28T00:28:03

Hi All,
The draft agenda has been updated.  We are up to 6 presentations including the WG status.
If you still need a slot time and slots are getting limited.
Please let me know as soon as possible by replying to this email and completing the form below.

The objectives are to explain to the working group what is being requested of them from the presentation.
Please don't describe the draft, but rather explain what is being requested of the working group in the presentation.

If you requested a slot and are not listed, please let me know.
Thanks,
Dave

Form:

- topic or draft title (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking):
- draft URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk/):
- Presentation objectives: A brief statement of objectives and issues that need to be discussed and resolved via the presentation (e.g., need to address security issues and get direction from the WG):
- requested duration (norm is 10 min):
- speaker name (e.g., Given-name FAMILY-NAME):



From: David A

Re: PWE3 IETF 86 Slot Requests - Orlando

David Sinicrope — 2013-02-22T23:10:02

The draft agenda reflecting requests as of 18:00 22-Feb-2013 is posted at:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/agenda/agenda-86-pwe3

The PWE3 agenda from IETF 85 is listed for reference.

If you need a presentation slot or think you need a slot and don't have one please reply to this email and complete the form below.

- topic or draft title (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking):
- draft URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk/):
- Presentation objectives: A brief statement of objectives and issues that need to be discussed and resolved via the presentation (e.g., need to address security issues and get direction from the WG):
- requested duration (norm is 10 min):
- speaker name (e.g., Given-name FAMILY-NAME):

If you requested a slot and are not listed, please let me know.

Thanks,
Dave

From: David A Sinicrope <david.sinicrope< at >ericsson.com<mailto:david.sinicrope< at >ericsson.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:37 PM
To: "IETF.PWE3" <pwe3< at >ietf.org<mailto:pwe3< at >iet

I-D Action: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-10.txt

2013-02-21T02:16:32

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge Working Group of the IETF.

Title           : Inter-Chassis Communication Protocol for L2VPN PE Redundancy
Author(s)       : Luca Martini
                          Samer Salam
                          Ali Sajassi
                          Satoru Matsushima
Filename        : draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-10.txt
Pages           : 80
Date            : 2013-02-20

Abstract:
   This document specifies an inter-chassis communication protocol
   (ICCP) that enables Provider Edge (PE) device redundancy for Virtual
   Private Wire Service (VPWS) and Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)
   applications. The protocol runs within a set of two or more PEs,
   forming a redundancy group, for the purpose of synchronizing data
   amongst the systems. It accommodates multi-chassis attachment circuit
   as well as pseudowire redundancy mechanisms.


The IETF datatracker status page fo

I-D Action: draft-ietf-pwe3-rfc4447bis-01.txt

2013-02-21T01:53:08

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge Working Group of the IETF.

Title           : Pseudowire Setup and Maintenance using the Label Distribution Protocol
Author(s)       : Luca Martini
                          Giles Heron
Filename        : draft-ietf-pwe3-rfc4447bis-01.txt
Pages           : 34
Date            : 2013-02-20

Abstract:
   Layer 2 services (such as Frame Relay, Asynchronus Transfer Mode, and
   Ethernet) can be "emulated" over an MPLS backbone by encapsulating
   the Layer 2 Packet Data Units (PDU) and then transmitting them over
   "pseudowires". It is also possible to use pseudowires to provide
   low-rate Time Dividion Multiplexed and Synchronous Optical NETworking
   circuit emulation over a MPLS-enabled network. This document
   specifies a protocol for establishing and maintaining the
   pseudowires, using extensions to the Label Distribution Protocol
   (LDP).  Procedures

Re: PWE3 IETF 86 Slot Requests - Orlando

David Sinicrope — 2013-02-20T18:37:32

Only 2 requests so far.  If you need a slot, please let me know.


  *   2013-02-18 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for initial document (-00) submission by UTC 24:00, upload using IETF ID Submission Tool<https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/>.
  *   2013-02-25 (Monday): Internet Draft final submission cut-off by UTC 24:00, upload using IETF ID Submission Tool<https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/>.
  *   2013-02-27 (Wednesday): Draft Working Group agendas due by UTC 24:00, upload using IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool<https://datatracker.ietf.org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_proceedings.cgi>.

Thanks,
Dave

From: David A Sinicrope <david.sinicrope< at >ericsson.com<mailto:david.sinicrope< at >ericsson.com>>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:20 PM
To: "IETF.PWE3" <pwe3< at >ietf.org<mailto:pwe3< at >ietf.org>>
Subject: [PWE3] PWE3 IETF 86 Slot Requests - Orlando

Hi All,
It's that time again.  The draft agenda for Orlando is out.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/86/agenda.html
As of today we will be meeting on Tuesday March 12 from