http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5198 <pre>Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP ( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia from University of Georgia, USA. We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: (1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa (2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic (3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance (4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model (5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer (6). Laptop is an example for a super computer (7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning. However, it was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without</pre> johnsonhammond2< at >hushmail.com 2013-04-27T16:51:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5196 <pre>Many thanks to everyone (esp. John Klensin) for this long and hard work. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:26 AM, John C Klensin &lt;klensin&lt; at &gt;jck.com&gt; wrote: </pre> Yangwoo Ko 2013-03-12T07:53:30 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5191 <pre>+a lot ☺, thanks! From: eai-dt-bounces&lt; at &gt;alvestrand.no [mailto:eai-dt-bounces&lt; at &gt;alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Yangwoo Ko Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:54 AM To: John C Klensin Cc: Pete Resnick; Barry Leiba; Joseph Yee; ima&lt; at &gt;ietf.org; eai-dt&lt; at &gt;alvestrand.no Subject: Re: Finished! Future of the WG Many thanks to everyone (esp. John Klensin) for this long and hard work. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:26 AM, John C Klensin &lt;klensin&lt; at &gt;jck.com&lt;mailto:klensin&lt; at &gt;jck.com&gt;&gt; wrote: Hi. Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt action in sign off. All documents should be moving into the RFC Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume, announced and published in the next several days. So... Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience. Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives. The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of implementation issues and experiences and, in particu</pre> Shawn Steele 2013-03-12T16:50:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5190 <pre> --On Monday, 11 March, 2013 19:36 -0400 Joseph Yee &lt;jyee&lt; at &gt;afilias.info&gt; wrote: I had forgotten that there was a separate implementer list. Might it be best to make sure that everyone on that list is on the main list and then get rid of the separation? best, john </pre> John C Klensin 2013-03-12T03:08:57 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5189 <pre>It is a hard work! Everyone donate a lot of effort on it. Finally, we make it. Hope that these proocols can be deployed soon! Jiankang Yao ----- Original Message ----- From: "John C Klensin" &lt;klensin&lt; at &gt;jck.com&gt; To: &lt;eai-dt&lt; at &gt;alvestrand.no&gt;; "Pete Resnick" &lt;presnick&lt; at &gt;qti.qualcomm.com&gt; Cc: "Barry Leiba" &lt;barryleiba&lt; at &gt;computer.org&gt;; "Joseph Yee" &lt;jyee&lt; at &gt;ca.afilias.info&gt;; &lt;ima&lt; at &gt;ietf.org&gt; Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:26 AM Subject: [EAI] Finished! Future of the WG </pre> Jiankang YAO 2013-03-12T02:36:57 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5188 <pre> What about the implementor list? I would love to make implementation discussion more visible. So I push for closing it as well. Joseph </pre> Joseph Yee 2013-03-11T23:36:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5187 <pre>Hi. Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt action in sign off. All documents should be moving into the RFC Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume, announced and published in the next several days. So... Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience. Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives. The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of implementation issues and experiences and, in particular, for further work on the various "advice" documents we agreed to take out of the WG's work commitments until there is more implementation experience. Unless someone can come up with a good reason to keep it and do so within the next few days, I will ask Harald to shut down the design team/ authors mailing list. Again, thanks to everyone, especially the authors and editors, for sticking with it. I think the WG can be proud of its work and the quality of the specs. Now I anxiou</pre> John C Klensin 2013-03-11T22:26:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5186 <pre>Hi. Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt action in sign off. All documents should be moving into the RFC Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume, announced and published in the next several days. So... Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience. Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives. The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of implementation issues and experiences and, in particular, for further work on the various "advice" documents we agreed to take out of the WG's work commitments until there is more implementation experience. Unless someone can come up with a good reason to keep it and do so within the next few days, I will ask Harald to shut down the design team/ authors mailing list. Again, thanks to everyone, especially the authors and editors, for sticking with it. I think the WG can be proud of its work and the quality of the specs. Now I anxiou</pre> John C Klensin 2013-03-11T22:28:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5185 <pre>Following up on Saturday's note and to try to continue to keep everyone informed... As of now (within the last hour), RFCs-to-be 6854, 6855, 6757, and 6858 are finished and ready for publication as soon as 6856 is signed off. The state of 6856, at least according to my records, is that Randy Gellens and JianKang Yao have signed off and that we are waiting for Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara to sign off. I have to sign off as well, but am happy with the document now and haven't done so only because I want to check any further comments. john </pre> John C Klensin 2013-03-11T19:08:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5184 <pre>Hi. I'm copying the full EAI list on this because I'm sure people are wondering what black hole the documents dropped into. The very high-level summary is that the RFC Editor had serious problems getting several of them into shape that would be appropriate for publication. That led to some intense reviews, which turned up problems with terminology and related issues. Some of those had to be resolved because they created ambiguities or confusion, others just were worth cleaning up as we were doing other work. I want to stress that the RFC Editor has been very helpful about all of this and has put in a lot of extra effort, both of which I appreciate and believe the rest of the WG should too. Insofar as there is a problem, it is our fault for being too optimistic about what they could and would fix without a lot of input from us. I think we are all learning for the future. A note from the outgoing IETF Chair that essentially suggested that documents that had taken this long and been this much work (espec</pre> John C Klensin 2013-03-09T23:24:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5183 <pre>reply _______________________________________________ IMA mailing list IMA&lt; at &gt;ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ima </pre> srilatha yenigalla 2013-01-28T18:35:05 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5182 <pre> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John C Klensin" &lt;klensin&lt; at &gt;jck.com&gt; To: "Pete Resnick" &lt;presnick&lt; at &gt;qti.qualcomm.com&gt;; "Jiankang YAO" &lt;yaojk&lt; at &gt;cnnic.cn&gt; Cc: "Barry Leiba" &lt;barryleiba&lt; at &gt;computer.org&gt;; &lt;ima&lt; at &gt;ietf.org&gt; Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 4:56 AM Subject: Re: RFC Editor Notes for documents Thanks Chairs and ADs to push them. Jiankang Yao </pre> Jiankang YAO 2012-11-22T01:04:24 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5181 <pre> --On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 13:38 -0600 Pete Resnick &lt;presnick&lt; at &gt;qti.qualcomm.com&gt; wrote: On behalf of the WG, many thanks to you and Barry. Best Thanksgiving wishes to those who celebrate that holiday tomorrow. john </pre> John C Klensin 2012-11-21T20:56:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5180 <pre>The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Simplified POP/IMAP Downgrading for Internationalized Email' (draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade-07.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade/ [Please note: This document is one a set of four interdependent documents: draft-ietf-eai-5738bis draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade These documents should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood together.] Technical Summary This document specifies a method for IMAP and POP servers to serve internationalized messages to conventional clients. The specification is simple, easy to implement and provides only rudimentary results. Working Group Summary No particular process issues of note. The WG had ext</pre> The IESG 2012-11-21T19:33:04 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5179 <pre>The IESG has approved the following document: - 'POP3 Support for UTF-8' (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-08.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis/ [Please note: This document is one a set of four interdependent documents: draft-ietf-eai-5738bis draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade These documents should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood together.] Technical Summary This specification extends the Post Office Protocol version 3 (POP3) to support UTF-8 encoded international string in user names, passwords, mail addresses, message headers, and protocol-level textual strings. Working Group Summary No particular process issues of note. The WG had extensive and constructive discussions a</pre> The IESG 2012-11-21T19:33:02 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5178 <pre>The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages' (draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-08.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade/ [Please note: This document is one a set of four interdependent documents: draft-ietf-eai-5738bis draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade These documents should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood together.] Technical Summary The Email Address Internationalization (SMTPUTF8) extension to SMTP allows UTF-8 characters in mail header fields. Upgraded POP and IMAP servers support internationalized Email messages. If a POP/IMAP client does not support Email Address Internationalization, POP/IMAP</pre> The IESG 2012-11-21T19:32:55 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5177 <pre>The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IMAP Support for UTF-8' (draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-12.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Barry Leiba and Pete Resnick. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-5738bis/ [Please note: This document is one a set of four interdependent documents: draft-ietf-eai-5738bis draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade These documents should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood together.] Technical Summary These four EAI documents make up a set that are interdependent and should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood together. Their abstracts have been examined and verified to sufficiency to describe the individual documents. The abstract for this particular document reads: This specification extends the Internet Message Access P</pre> The IESG 2012-11-21T19:32:51 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5176 <pre>Hi Franck, --On November 16, 2012 6:15:08 PM +0000 Franck Martin &lt;fmartin&lt; at &gt;linkedin.com&gt; wrote: CalDAV: RFC4791/RFC6638 CardDAV: RFC6352 </pre> Cyrus Daboo 2012-11-16T21:00:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5175 <pre> That doesn't mean work has to stop. There are lists that have "survived" its WG and went on to accomplish more[1] than the original WG. [1] In the case of the EPP protocol, more RFCs were published after PROVREG WG shutdown than during the WG. The WG shut down once EPP achieved PS. The protocol then went to DS and then Full Standard via the list alone. </pre> Edward Lewis 2012-11-16T20:26:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5174 <pre>All, The minutes of EAI at IETF85 are available at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/minutes/minutes-85-eai Regards, Joseph </pre> Joseph Yee 2012-11-16T19:58:30 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ima/5173 <pre> --On Friday, November 16, 2012 17:41 +0000 Franck Martin &lt;fmartin&lt; at &gt;linkedin.com&gt; wrote: Franck (and others), EAI is essentially finished. The last four documents should be in the hands of the IESG Secretary later today and will presumably go to the RFC Editor next week (or sooner). Once that occurs, I expect that there will be no activity on this list or in the WG until and unless one of the following occurs: * someone discovers a new, showstopper, issue with one of the current set of four documents * either before or during AUTH48, .the RFC Editor or authors have a question that cannot be resolved without going back to the WG As discussed in Atlanta and earlier, once those four documents are published, the WG will be shut down or suspended (which one is up to the ADs). People may obviously propose new work at any time, but it won't be done in this WG, at least without a revised charter and change of leadership. john </pre> John C Klensin 2012-11-16T19:10:28 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.ietf.ima