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Re: Can we have a File Drawer, please?

Pete Schaffner — 2013-05-22T12:03:25

Hi Björn,

Concerning your desire to refactor and create a view framework ... have you ever considered trying to get crowd funding/support to help with the time/energy problem :) Marijn Haverbeke did just this for his [Tern project] (http://ternjs.net) and it seems to be working out quite well! I would love to see this happen, that is the only reason I am inquiring.

Thanks for all your work on MacVim,

-Pete

Re: introduction + first question that will set the tone for me

Yuma Antoine Decaux — 2013-05-22T09:23:50

Hi Steven,

I was wondering if you were able to speak to your blind colleagues about their coding environment.

Best regards,

Yuma 








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On 20/05/2013, at 4:57 AM, Steven Michalske <smichalske-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: 7.3.967 fails on Tiger PPC due to Python problem

2013-05-22T08:50:58

Since the choking was on the functions Py_{VISIT,CLEAR}, and the
warnings reflected the lines 1423 and 1430 in if_py_both.h, I decided
to do an 'hg blame' on that file.  The result is that the lines in
question were most recently touched by patch 7.3.965 (the python
garbage collection patch).

I cannot bisect to test commits prior to that, because updating to
such a commit (e.g., 7.3.930) deletes all the MacVim parts and leaves
the working directory as plain BramVim.  As I noted earlier, BramVim
doesn't have the problem in question.

-gmn

Re: using % inside quotes (" ") - e.g. ':call ScreenShellSend("echo %:p")'

peiman khosravi — 2013-05-20T13:31:48

Thanks very much. That's much more concise.

Best,
Peiman






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On 20 May 2013 14:24, Tony Mechelynck <antoine.mechelynck-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: using % inside quotes (" ") - e.g. ':call ScreenShellSend("echo %:p")'

Tony Mechelynck — 2013-05-20T13:24:45

In addition to what you found, the following (without backticks) will
also work:

:call ScreenShellSend('echo ' . expand('%:p'))


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Re: introduction + first question that will set the tone for me

Yuma Antoine Decaux — 2013-05-20T03:14:26

Hi Steven,

That would be very well appreciated. There are no other blind programming students here at uni so no-one really knows how to go about certain obstacles i'm encountering, and some knowledge of best practice methods on a screen reader would really help me advance in my courses.


Best regards,

Yuma 








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Re: using % inside quotes (" ") - e.g. ':call ScreenShellSend("echo %:p")'

peiman khosravi — 2013-05-20T00:13:48

Here is the solution:

:call ScreenShellSend(printf('echo "%s"', expand("%:p")))






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On 19 May 2013 14:49, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache

2013-05-19T20:16:38

That's what I suspected, but MacVim has been doing this for what seems like at least a year.

-gmn

Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache

Bram Moolenaar — 2013-05-19T20:08:26


Vim puts config.cache in src/auto.  If you have one in src then
something went wrong.

Re: introduction + first question that will set the tone for me

Steven Michalske — 2013-05-19T18:57:41

Hello,

I have blind co-workers that program.  I will make an effort to ask them their preferred coding environment.

Steve

On May 18, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux <jamyad7-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

using % inside quotes (" ") - e.g. ':call ScreenShellSend("echo %:p")'

peiman khosravi — 2013-05-19T13:49:31

Dear all,

I am trying to run this command:

:call ScreenShellSend("echo %:p")

Where %:p should be replaced by the current file path. For obvious reasons
this doesn't work so I get 'echo %:p' in the terminal instead. Is there a
workaround for this?

Many thanks in advance
Peiman





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Re: introduction + first question that will set the tone for me

Yuma Antoine Decaux — 2013-05-19T09:05:07

Actually, it was mac oriented as i use a mac for vim.

Just installed it and there's a window with a scroll bar. Nothing else. so the question is answered. hopefully the command line only version is more accomodating....

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Re: introduction + first question that will set the tone for me

Tony Mechelynck — 2013-05-19T08:20:05

[...]
I'm not blind myself, but this is a question about Vim in general
rather than specifically about Vim *on the Mac*. I'm redirecting it to
the vim_use list where more people would be reading it.

introduction + first question that will set the tone for me

Yuma Antoine Decaux — 2013-05-19T06:59:44

Hi all,

As per the subject, i have a simple question, before i go on and try to work VIM out. Is this potentially accessible to blind users?

I've been more and more nudged towards using command line only at UNI as all GUI oriented applications are either horribly slow or unusable with a screen reader, and htough i love the simplicity and responsiveness of the command line, i need something a bit more powerful for editing python scripts and other stuff i;m currently learning.


Any other blind VIM users out therre can give me a primer?

Thanks, and best regards 

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Re: 7.3.967 fails on Tiger PPC due to Python problem

2013-05-19T05:52:11

I forgot to mention that on Tiger PPC, BramVim 7.3.967 (and indeed 7.3.969) built fine.  Just a point of comparison.

-gmn

make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache

2013-05-19T05:12:07

Hi Björn,

Doing 'make distclean' doesn't remove  src/config.cache.  Shouldn't it?
I went to compare this to the BramVim repo, but found that the BramVim
repo's ./configure script never even creates src/config.cache in the
first place.

If I forget to do the "export CC=clang" bit before ./configuring on Lion
or greater, then realize my error and go back and do it, then do make
distclean to clear the cache, the ./configure script yells at me to do
"make distclean" even though I already did.  Sure enough,
src/config.cache is still sitting there.  I have to manually remove the
file.

-gmn

7.3.967 fails on Tiger PPC due to Python problem

2013-05-19T05:11:47

Hi Björn,

MacVim failed to build on OS X 10.4.11 (PPC) after pulling to 7.3.967.
Everything as of the 7.3.806 pull from February was just fine.  Seems
the recent fiddling with Python in BramLand has messed things up for
poor Tiger.

My ./configure flags are: 
  --with-features=big   
  --enable-pythoninterp 
  --disable-netbeans    
  --disable-nls         

Here is the end of the build process that shows the chokage.

 gcc   -L/usr/local/lib  -o Vim objects/buffer.o objects/blowfish.o objects/charset.o objects/diff.o objects/digraph.o objects/edit.o objects/eval.o objects/ex_cmds.o objects/ex_cmds2.o objects/ex_docmd.o objects/ex_eval.o objects/ex_getln.o objects/fileio.o objects/fold.o objects/getchar.o objects/hardcopy.o objects/hashtab.o  objects/if_cscope.o objects/if_xcmdsrv.o objects/mark.o objects/memline.o objects/menu.o objects/message.o objects/misc1.o objects/misc2.o objects/move.o objects/mbyte.o objects/normal.o objects/ops.o objects/option.o objects/os_unix.o objects/pathdef.o objects/popupm

Re: Stupid "magical" fix

Eric Weir — 2013-05-13T16:20:45

On May 13, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir wrote:


Well, I've answered my own question, and it seems to have nothing to do with the synchronizing of the .vim folders on the macbook and the tablet. 

After restoring the .vim folder and the .vimrc from six weeks ago, I decided to see which one had given me back my keymappings. It was the .vimrc. So I decided to see if I could see what it was about the .vimrc that had done the trick. I compared the older .vimrc with the one previously in use. 

There was a *one character* difference. Somehow the initial 'i' got lopped off the insert mode remapping of jj to <esc>. I did it, of course. I have no idea how or when, but it had to be me. 

I don't know what I look like, but I'm feeling a little sheepish after all the "sturm and drang" of the last few days.

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Stupid "magical" fix

Eric Weir — 2013-05-13T15:41:14

On May 11, 2013, at 6:08 AM, Eric Weir wrote:


At the limits of my knowledge and my wits end regarding the problems I've been experiencing I resorted to a "magical" fix---a shot in the dark---to see if I could get my key mappings back. I went into the time machine and restored by .vim folder and .vimrc from six weeks ago. It worked. 

If anyone has a clue why---or more importantly, why I started getting "swap exists" messages for swap files in '/var/tmp/', why macvim asked me if I wanted to create a file on an android path, why I stopped getting macvim and started getting gvim, why after restoring an older backup .vim folder I got macvim back, why after I got macvim back I still didn't have my key mappings---I would really be interested. I really would like to understand.

I can't help thinking that the fact that I was synchronizing the '.vim' folders on my macbook and my android tablet had something to do with it, even though I don't understand how it could. Again, the only difference between the two setu

Re: compiling for ipad/ios

GornLives — 2013-05-12T15:28:14

Hi David,

I've got the radare version of vim - thanks for the tip. I've been trying to compile vim on the ipad itself. There are a number of ideas about getting gcc to work on the ipad, and some claim to be successful. You might look at

https://code.google.com/p/iphone-gcc-full/

or

http://gamma-level.com/iphoneos/ports/environment

and

http://www.89geek.com/2012/01/install-c-compiler-on-iphone-4s-gcc.html

But I've had real trouble getting any of this to work. Only once have I been able to get Vim configured with Python properly and then had a make error. There almost always ends up being an error in the make process - usually I'm missing a library or have a header problem. I've tired of trying to figure out the issues. But I will say that I don't really know what I'm doing, and the iphone-gcc project looks promising. I'd probably attempt more but since Apple has stopped signing 6.1.2 I have no way of restoring my ipad if something goes awry. So I think I'm going to wait until ios 7 and try again. 

As

Re: compiling for ipad/ios

David Sanson — 2013-05-11T17:06:47

I tried but failed. This repo has a more recent version of Vim than the standard Cydia repos:

http://cydia.radare.org/

but it does not include python support. This project looked like it might help:

http://www.iosopendev.com/

but I could not make it work with vim. If you succeed, please do let us know how to do it!