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    <title>Re: [Serna] formatting gets lost when switching to markup view</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/530</link>
    <description>Hello Jakob,

Markup view is designed for working with script-like documents where 
seeing XML tags is helpful. For navigation in Serna it's better to use 
ContentMap and context hints.

Markup has its own background colours and it's impossible to switch it 
off.

Thank you.
Regards,
Daria Chernova

On Sun, 4 May 2008, Jakob Fix wrote:


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    <title>[Serna] formatting gets lost when switching to markup view</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/529</link>
    <description>Hello,  I am a new user of Syntext Serna.  I have created a xsl fo
 stylesheet to customise the look for my documents.  Among other
 things, I have added background colours to a number of elements.  When
 switching to markup view where all element tags are displayed, the
 background colours disappear.

 How can I avoid this?  It is really helpful to see the background
 colours.  Thanks in advance.

 --
 cheers,
 Jakob.



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    <dc:date>2008-05-04T14:29:31</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/528">
    <title>[Serna] test1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/528</link>
    <description>test1

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    <dc:creator>cherdn-YYLLxrGCLz9BDgjK7y7TUQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-05-04T14:11:53</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Serna]  Feature request - copy/paste from external applications</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/527</link>
    <description>Hello Seraphim,

Serna does not have this functionality now. We'll add it in our future
feature-list.

By now, we may suggest you the following work-around:
  - copy formatted content in some application
  - select a portion of document with place where you are planning to
paste the formatted content (in Serna)
  - call Edit -&gt; Edit Selection as Text
  - paste your formatted content in the appropriate place, press OK -&gt;
Serna inserts the content with tags.

Have you any other questions please feel free to contact me.

Thank you.
Regards,
Daria Chernova


On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Seraphim Larsen wrote:


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    <title>[Serna] March 88% Off</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/526</link>
    <description/>
    <dc:creator>serna-users-YYLLxrGCLz9BDgjK7y7TUQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-03-03T23:34:06</dc:date>
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    <title>[Serna]  Feature request - copy/paste from external applications</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/525</link>
    <description>When copying/pasting formatted content into Serna (e.g., from a web browser, or
from Word), Serna seems to just dump it all as text, without any tags at all.  

I've used some other editors that seem to have more intelligence when pasting --
for example, it's no problem to copy a table from Firefox and paste it into a
DITA topic, and preserve all the table formatting.

Can Serna already do that, but I just haven't turned on the right preferences or
something?


Thanks!
Seraphim



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    <title>[Serna] Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:16:53 -0400 SALE 70% OFF on Pfizer</title>
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    <description/>
    <dc:creator>admin-B+mABYKtKinQT0dZR+AlfA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
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    <title>[Serna] SALE 72% OFF on Pfizer</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/523</link>
    <description/>
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    <title>Re: [Serna] Apparent Bug In Text Mode: Inserting &amp;lt; results in &amp;lt;&amp;lt;</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/522</link>
    <description>Hello Eliot,

We've reproduced the issue. It's sent to our developers.

Thank you.
Regards,
Daria Chernova

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Paul Antonov wrote:


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    <dc:date>2008-01-15T12:54:27</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Serna] A better way to display &lt; at &gt;ttributes and their legal values</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/521</link>
    <description>Hedley,

Thank you for these suggestions. We'll work them out.

Regards,
Daria

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Hedley Finger wrote:


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    <dc:date>2008-01-14T14:46:43</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Serna] Changing the font size in the editing pane</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/520</link>
    <description>Hedley,

we've added the body font size parameter into the XSLT Parameters list 
for DITA documents.
Thank you.

Regards,
Daria

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Paul Antonov wrote:


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    <dc:date>2008-01-14T14:40:07</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/519">
    <title>Re: [Serna] More convenient "Insert Symbol" dialogue</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/519</link>
    <description>Hello Hedley,

Thank you for your suggestions. They are added into our 
future-release-feature list.

Thank you.
Regards,
Daria Chernova

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Hedley Finger wrote:


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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/518">
    <title>Re: [Serna] Migrating Custom DITA Templates from 3.4 to 3.5.1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/518</link>
    <description>Hello Eliot,


We've added some information in our Documentation (offline version) about 
Document Template Development. See:

Syntext Serna 3.5 Developer's Guide -&gt; Document Template Development -&gt; 
Introduction to Document Template Development.

In the online there is still an old version of Serna's Documentation. 
It'll be renewed soon.

Thank you.
Regards,
Daria Chernova


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    <dc:date>2008-01-14T09:58:24</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Serna] Maddeningly difficult to insert some DITA elements</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/517</link>
    <description>Hello Hedley,

We've fixed this bug. Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Daria

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Paul Antonov wrote:


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    <dc:date>2008-01-14T09:01:02</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Serna] Apparent Bug In Text Mode: Inserting &amp;lt; results in &amp;lt;&amp;lt;</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/516</link>
    <description>
Eliot,

of course this may be a bug. We will research this issue.

Regards,

</description>
    <dc:creator>Paul Antonov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-10T17:20:51</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/515">
    <title>[Serna] Apparent Bug In Text Mode: Inserting &amp;lt; results in &amp;lt;&amp;lt;</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/515</link>
    <description>Using Syntext Serna v3.5.1 - 20071123.16371 on OS X, I was using text 
mode to correct a document that had literal "&lt;" characters. I did this 
by typing "&amp;lt;", copying it to the clipboard then pasting it in place 
of literal "&lt;" characters.

When I do that Serna consistently inserts two "&amp;lt;" references.

Cheers,

Eliot

</description>
    <dc:creator>Eliot Kimber</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-09T18:33:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Serna] A better way to display legal elements</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/514</link>
    <description>Hedley, what would you do with the &lt;image&gt; element, which has a "placement"
attribute for inline or break? It's the only one I can think of at this
time with a changeable behavior, but I thought I'd toss out the prospect of
others that might have a "block or inline" identity crisis, especially as a
result of a specialization that might change its override behavior in the
content.

Would it make sense to organize the list by relative level in the document
hierarchy?  For example, &lt;section&gt; is probably not used as often as &lt;p&gt;,
which is not used as often as its allowed child elements. So by inverting
that list, the most common ones might conceivably be the easiest to pick
from, at least initially (as the history-based list is being built).  The
nice thing is that this can be inferred from the Schemas at the time the
document is opened--it does not require anyone's definition work through a
sidefile, for example, that defines which is block and which is inline
(information that is not automatically available an</description>
    <dc:creator>Don Day</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-09T18:06:04</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/513">
    <title>[Serna] A better way to display &lt; at &gt;ttributes and their legal values</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/513</link>
    <description/>
    <dc:creator>Hedley Finger</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-09T00:02:33</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/512">
    <title>[Serna] A better way to display legal elements</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/512</link>
    <description>
At the moment, all elements that are legal at a particular point are 
shown in one long alphabetically ordered list.

Why not split this list into two lists, one for block elements like 
&lt;p&gt;, and the other for embeddable elements, like &lt;i&gt;?  In the case of 
DITA documens, you might even colour the backgrounds behind the 
latter by domain.

This way, the structural elements would be largely separated from the 
'formatting' elements.  By the way, I like the way that frequently 
inserted elements float to the top of the list in bold whence they 
can be inserted quickly with the Alt key shortcut.

Regards,
Hedley


--
Hedley Stewart Finger
28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Mobile +61 412 461 558,
E-mail &lt;mailto:hfinger-6P+1Du0vV4/qSFzvm+Tz3BCuuivNXqWP&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;



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    <title>[Serna] RE: Message</title>
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    <description/>
    <dc:creator>Nadia-B+mABYKtKinQT0dZR+AlfA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
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    <title>Re: [Serna] Changing the font size in the editing pane</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/510</link>
    <description>Hedley,

we will modify the stylesheet to include the body font size into the XSLT 
Parameters list. Thanks for the suggestion.

Regards,

</description>
    <dc:creator>Paul Antonov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-08T20:53:29</dc:date>
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