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Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-22T00:32:01

This is a LyX regression. I can bisect later tonight. You do not need
to change the docs.

Scott

Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-22T00:22:42

I can compile the document with 2.0.x. Can you compile it with 2.1git
or have you only tried 2.0.x?

Scott

Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-22T00:00:20

But there is an underlying issue that will come up if we don't address
it. I'm not convinced that the following should be valid:

\begin{description}[\foreignlanguage{ngerman}{labelindent=0pt,
labelsep=1cm, font=\itshape, style=nextline}]
\item [{Ionizing~radiation:}] Ionizing radiation consists of particles
or electromagnetic waves that are energetic enough to detach electrons
from atoms or molecules, therefore ionizing them.

It makes sense to have the \foreignlanguage nested inside the option?
I'm not sure LyX should be doing that.

Scott

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Uwe Stöhr — 2013-05-21T23:40:48

Am 17.05.2013 10:24, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


Sure. We need a layout tag to tell what the class default is.

To clarify the concept of my idea:

The setting is somewhat between the the document settings and the preferences. The idea is to change 
only the way NEW floats are inserted. Existing floats will not be changed by this setting.

Take for example the case that you have to write an internal research report today. You want to have 
all floats containing only one image centered. So you set this in my setting and every new float is 
is inserted with a centered image. You have 15 floats but one should be left-aligned (because it 
contains e.g. subfigures). So you can change the alignment of that single float as usual. If you 
insert afterwards new floats, you still get the desired centered floats.
Tomorrow you will have to continue to write a journal article. This class required to have all 
floats right-aligned. So you set this in my setting ans start writing. For one float you might have 
to align

Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Uwe Stöhr — 2013-05-21T23:25:54

Am 22.05.2013 01:01, schrieb Scott Kostyshak:


But the German userGuide is still identical to that in branch.


Well, too much work to find that out. i will translate the section and the issue is solved for us.

regards Uwe

Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-21T23:01:55

I only saw it after your commit one month ago. I think you are the
only user/dev compiling the German User Guide in 2.1git.

I do agree that it's strange it hasn't come up in other contexts (or
maybe it has). Maybe this is worth a post on tex.stackexchange.com. It
sounds like you're confident that the LaTeX is valid, right?

Scott

Re: Re: [PATCH] Autotests with CMake: improve test clean-up

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-21T22:57:02

Kornel, do you have an opinion on this?

Scott

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [LyX master] Add autotests for #8684

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-21T22:56:40

OK, I'm out of ideas then. If we do not find a solution, we should at
least document this. Note that this discussion is a little related to
another discussion, which I'm going to bump now.

Scott

Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Uwe Stöhr — 2013-05-21T22:56:29

Am 22.05.2013 00:51, schrieb Scott Kostyshak:


OK, then i will have to translate the paragraph. Strange that no user complained about this yet.


Seems so. Cannot test here TeXLive on this machine quickly.


Ah, now I see.

regards Uwe

Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-21T22:51:44

Yes, then it compiles fine.


Maybe this is a TeX Live issue?


In case you did not see, Stephan wrote "Me too. I have the problem
with pdflatex, ps2pdf and dvipdfm."

Scott

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [LyX master] Add autotests for #8684

Kornel Benko — 2013-05-21T22:49:52

Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013 um 18:13:53, schrieb Scott Kostyshak <skostysh< at >lyx.org>

Maybe, but it is not single-test.cmake, but rather keytest.py. And the process/window-names
should not be different, no mater which window manager controls the display.
The X-server is as well the same.


Does not look important to me.

Kornel

Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Uwe Stöhr — 2013-05-21T22:45:26

Am 22.05.2013 00:30, schrieb Scott Kostyshak:


The problem is that there is a \selectlanguage around that paragraph. but it is correct there 
because the paragraph is not translated. So if you reset the language of the whole paragraph, it 
compiles, right?

I don't have any clue why this fails for you because this is correct LaTeX and I don't get even a 
warning. Also nobody else complained about this yet.

Does anybody else have problems to compile the German UserGuide?

(If so I will translate the problematic paragraph and ask our French translator to do so  as well.)

regards Uwe

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [LyX master] Add autotests for #8684

Kornel Benko — 2013-05-21T22:43:19

Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013 um 18:11:29, schrieb Scott Kostyshak <skostysh< at >lyx.org>

No, I think it is not sufficient. Reconfiguration will also be done if
there exists configure.log already.
Depending probably on format change, new checked packages, and I don't know what else.

Kornel

Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-21T22:30:58

When? I just opened the log that I sent you, search for "error" and
copied what I found.


That is strange.


No, I cannot compile either. I have the same problem with both.
Deleting the inset leads to no error in both. So I guess the
"Auflistung" double error is unrelated (since I don't get it with the
French user guide).

If it would help, I can reproduce this on an Ubuntu 13.04 server and
give you the SSH key. You would just have to SSH in with X, and run
"lyx".

Scott

Re: Re: Re: Re: [LyX master] Add autotests for #8684

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-21T22:13:53

I don't know if this is relevant, but running konsole from
gnome-terminal I got the following output in gnome-terminal (written
by konsole):
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)
  Resource id:  0x3c00012
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)
  Resource id:  0x3c00012

Scott

Re: Re: Re: Re: [LyX master] Add autotests for #8684

Scott Kostyshak — 2013-05-21T22:11:29

Can we do something like the following?

if(!EXISTS "${WORKDIR}/.lyx/configure.log")
  execute_process(COMMAND "cd ${WORKDIR}/.lyx/ && <<run configure.py>>")
endif()



HW: Intel i3-3217U 1.8GHZ (4 cores), 16GB main memory.
OS: Ubuntu 12.04, 64bit
terminal window: gnome-terminal (but I just installed konsole and I
can't reproduce with it).

So it must be the KDE 4. I'm guessing it's a problem with window names
(which single-test.cmake relies on).

Scott

Re: [LyX master] support for \mbox and \fbox

Uwe Stöhr — 2013-05-21T22:10:20


I just got the info that the TortoiseGit developers were able to fix both problems I am facing. So 
with the next release I should be able to use Git as I should.

JMarc. For the box thing, please take over and commit - This must be in before beta1 of LyX 2.1.

regards Uwe

Re: Howto avoid cygwin/python import problems

Uwe Stöhr — 2013-05-21T22:00:41

Cygwin is not supported. If you use LyX with Cygwin you must set the correct paths in LyX's 
preferences yourself.

regards Uwe

Re: [LyX master] UserGuide.lyx: first step of revision

Uwe Stöhr — 2013-05-21T21:43:29

Am 21.05.2013 21:45, schrieb Scott Kostyshak:


But this is different from what you wrote before. However, the strange thing is that we use both the 
same version of enumitem and babel but you get an error. I changed the language of the enumitem 
option now so that there is no more a \foreignlanguage in the enumitem.

can you now compile the German and French userUuide in master?

regards Uwe

Re: Re: Re: Re: [LyX master] Add autotests for #8684

Kornel Benko — 2013-05-21T21:07:38

Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013 um 15:46:37, schrieb Scott Kostyshak <skostysh< at >lyx.org>

How can we find out?


OK, time to check for differences
HW:AMD, 4 cores, 1.5GHZ each, 4GB main memory
OS:ubuntu 12.04, 64bit
WinManager: Kde4, Window activation after click
terminal window:konsole


Kornel

Re: Extending biblatex support

Julien Rioux — 2013-05-21T20:49:34

More on the topic of biblatex support: It seems we don't have a very 
good idea of what we need to do. Never having used biblatex, I only have 
a vague idea how interfacing with biblatex actually happens. For 
example, I think some of the .bib/.bst selection happen in the preamble 
instead of the BibTeX inset, etc, but I am not actually sure which one, 
or is it both. This LaTeX export part should be coded now if we want 
this in for LyX 2.1, especially since including a document setting to 
select .bib files is still a fileformat change.

Another thing that we should do regarding citation engines in general, 
is to change the bibliography pane to be more like the module pane, with 
available citation modules on the left and selected modules on the 
right. This way, users can add their own modules, and we hopefully will 
see the development of some of them during the LyX 2.1 cycle.

Cheers,
Julien