http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6819 <pre>My interpretation is that the Occupy movement is largely fueled by those Americans (especially the young) who see their bleak future being realized and reinforced with each passing news cycle‹but those are people largely drawn from the segments of the population that even bother to pay attention to the news and current events. Though there is an anti-war/anti-imperialist element in the Occupy movement, the main motivation has been a will to confront the corrupt core of the US itself: massive taxpayer-financed write-offs, zero accountability, austerity in the form of a decayed infrastructure and underfunded or non-existent services for ordinary people, and, increasingly, attacks on the upper segments of the 99%. There is something beautifully selfish about the Occupy movement. For the growing population of poor urban youth of color, mis- or non-educated, segregated by space and media, overexposed to a toxic youth culture of anti-intellectualism, reductively sexualized human relationships, and moronic materi</pre> Dan S. Wang 2012-05-22T14:56:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6818 <pre>Thinking about the weakness of the US president, the weakness of the Democratic Party and the present weakness of the Occupy-Movement and its lacking of a real goal I propose to concentrate on President Obama. Since having red this ??. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-engelhardt/the-obama-contradiction_b_1464721.html (in short: with a little help from 9/11 bush and cheney deregulated american law and put more and more power in the hands of one man, the president and commander in chief. while not really scoring with his domestic plans (health care..etc) Obama tried to gain respect by increasingly showing up as some kind of warlord, having his own private &lt;more militarized CIA army&gt; and growing hordes of special fordes, 60'000 of them. now imagine all this power in Mitt Romney's hands?.. ?.I sincerely propose this: OCCUPY OBAMA (think of t-shirts, banners, stickers?.) The Occupy-Movement should try to force/invite the president to de- bush and de-cheney the USA. Therefore: OCC</pre> Geert Lovink 2012-05-21T09:54:03 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6817 <pre>Dear nettimers, as many of you probably know the Quebec's provincial government has recently passed an emergency law whose goal is to quash the massive student strike and demonstrations against tuition hike in public universities: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/19/quebec-passes-student-protest-law http://www.edu-factory.org/wp/massive-police-repression-victovillequebec-4th-may-protests/ http://www.mediacoop.ca/blog/bernans/10930 http://cutvmontreal.ca/broadcasts/2012/5/18-3 Below is the press release for a day of action organized by Free University NYC in solidarity in New York on May 22. cheers, snafu ***** ANNOUNCING THE FREE UNIVERSITY IN SOLIDARITY WITH QUEBEC STRIKE!! Pop-Up Free University in Solidarity with the Quebec Student Movement LIST OF EVENTS FOR TUESDAY, MAY 22nd The Free University is hosting a pop-up occupation Tuesday, May 22nd in Washington Square Park at 5PM on the 100th day of the Quebec students? unlimited strike, already one of the largest student mobilizat</pre> Snafu 2012-05-21T15:44:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6816 <pre>Re: &lt;nettime&gt; Capitalism is FINISHED -- As a Result of the Internet! Newmedia-YDxpq3io04c&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Jonathan Marshall &lt;Jonathan.Marshall-1dnWGznF1N8QrrorzV6ljw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Newmedia-YDxpq3io04c&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 17:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: &lt;nettime&gt; Capitalism is FINISHED -- As a Result of the Internet! [conclusion of previous message that got truncated . . . ] McLuhan's *own* primary point about "software" is that it leads to PATTERN RECOGNITION -- not magic and not stupidity. Popular phrases like "get a clue" and "too much information" seem to support his insight. While he is mostly remembered for "the medium is the message" and "global village" -- both of which were phrases that were used by *advertisers* to promote their McLuhan wares -- in his *hey-day* the phrase he used most often when asked to </pre> nettime's_digestive_system 2012-05-20T23:27:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6815 <pre>Jon: As the folks at Apple will tell you, their advertising spend to "attract" customers (who Steve Jobs famously referred to as "bozos") -- such as the iconic "Think Different" campaign and even the original MAC Superbowl ad -- have largely occurred in MASS-MEDIA, where Apple can "control the message." Many people also *refuse* to buy APPLE products. Since I followed the company for 20+ years on Wall Street, they are quite happy to be a *minority* market-share holder. Apple is a *especially* good example of a company that doesn't let people "talk back" (i.e. the hallmark of mass-media, not the web.) Perhaps those who refuse are the "non-bozos" who are being (relatively) more rational? My comments about advertising are largely reports from people INSIDE that industry -- not my own "opinions." My guess is that you would benefit from talking to some advertising veterans to see what they have learned over the past 20+ years. I see from your resume and publications history </pre> Newmedia-YDxpq3io04c< at >public.gmane.org 2012-05-20T16:26:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6814 <pre> Mark writes lots of interesting things about advertising and his contacts within the advertising industry in response to my question "Still don't know why digital tech is driving this process...." the main point of which (forgive me if i'm misreading) is that previously techniques worked and that: However: AS i wrote earlier, i'm doubtful about this - especially given the marketing succes of Apple, and the way that people seem to throw away old phones and tablets in a rush to get the newest Apple thing, which often does not seem to be a necessary improvement. Indeed frequently to me, much cheaper items appear to be indetectably good. Somehow whenever apple plans to take over the world, or issues faulty products, it gets away with it, to a degree which would seem implausible for say, Microsoft. To me this means that at least one company has its advertising right, and either excess consumption or conspicuous consumption of its products is not being diminished by the web, and are being furthered by t</pre> Jonathan Marshall 2012-05-20T01:13:31 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6813 <pre> indeed, the argument of people like Rosa Luxemburg and Geoff Hodgson, was that capitalism needed all the other economies, (personal, gift, tribute etc) in order to survive. The problem is that it then converts all economies to Capitalist ones (which was of course Marx and Engels complaint in the manifesto - and used to be the complaint of conservative thinkers before they became 'taken in' by money and power) So the issue, for me, anyway, is the conflict between different types of economy, and the undermining of capitalism that comes about by its undermining of these other economies. How do things like trust become commodified, and then 'sell out'? How does art compete with having to be for sale? when there is no other way to live? How does free exchange of culture and ideas become inhibited to the extent that culture and ideas cannot prosper? or culture becomes corporatly owned? I'm not sure here. which is why i'd still like to retain some idea of 'the real' and its resistance. If tech defined </pre> Jonathan Marshall 2012-05-20T06:36:31 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6812 <pre>Dear nettimers, I am not very often participating in signature campaigns but this one =20= is really impressive. There is a real momentum here to put pressure on =20= Elsevier and other academic publishers who continue their ridicuous IP =20= policies concerning publicly funded academic research. Yours, Geert --- 11619 Researchers Taking a Stand. See the list Academics have protested against Elsevier's business practices for =20 years with little effect. These are some of their objections: =95 They charge exorbitantly high prices for subscriptions to individual = =20 journals. =95 In the light of these high prices, the only realistic option for =20 many libraries is to agree to buy very large "bundles", which will =20 include many journals that those libraries do not actually want. =20 Elsevier thus makes huge profits by exploiting the fact that some of =20 their journals are essential. =95 They support measures such as SOPA, PIPA and the Research Works Act, = =20 that aim to restrict the free exchan</pre> Geert Lovink 2012-05-17T08:23:58 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6811 <pre>marc Lafia &lt;marclafia2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; our world is teeming with empires: on networks, histories and { brad brace } &lt;bbrace-qx95VtOkOx/QT0dZR+AlfA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; kickstart - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 15:04:08 -0400 Subject: our world is teeming with empires: on networks, histories and From: marc Lafia &lt;marclafia2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; greetings - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 10:06:30 -0700 (PDT) From: { brad brace } &lt;bbrace-qx95VtOkOx/QT0dZR+AlfA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Subject: kickstart http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bbrace/global-islands-project Global Islands Project -- ongoing series of multi-media pdf-ebooks/field-recordings -- a pastoral, pictorial and phonic elicitation of island parameters. An intensive examination of small islands and their paradi</pre> nettime's_tout 2012-05-18T21:09:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6810 <pre>Marc: Very well said! And, therein lies the "problem" *and* the "solution." As in an "every man/woman for themselves" situation, there is no chance for *coherence* and coming up with a common STRATEGY is totally out of the question. I know many of the people you interviewed and watched the trailer. Good job! Manuel Delanda summed it up well. Now everyone is "hacking" society for their own amusement. Believe me, I know where *he* is coming from. But this cannot last. Because, in fact, it means there is *no* society under these conditions. This CHAOS has been long anticipated. The original title for Marshall McLuhan's first book (circa 1947) was "A Guide to Chaos." Indeed, this is why "neo-liberalism" doesn't work (and why the 1% is a statistical and not social category.) By taking the "individualism" you ascribe to the Enlightenment to its "logical" extreme (an attitude that was born with the printing press), you create two situations: Revolution (i.e. the "rev</pre> Newmedia-YDxpq3io04c< at >public.gmane.org 2012-05-18T13:18:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6809 <pre>Hi Brian Greetings Nettimers. Much of the conversation you bring up Brian and in many other very engaging threads point to our contemporary condition of individuals without, or in search of society, yet all of us never-the-less insist and herald our individuality which I suggest could be argued the perfect checkmate of why many of these conversations go round and round not just here, but in the larger society. I would like to argue for a moment that our insistence on being individuals is our refusal of universalism and this refusal marks the moment we live in. With the enlightenment and the French revolution a new consideration of the relations of man was put forward, it was the idea that reason and science would produce a new order of men, not based on titles, nor wealth, or lineage, not religion, but on reason and science. There would be liberty, fraternity and equality not for all, yet, but as a lever to contest power. Over the next centuries the enormous energies of these new ideas and with them t</pre> marc Lafia 2012-05-18T12:03:38 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6808 <pre>Keith: Fine question! Because technology defines the *environment* in which we live -- so regardless of what "we" bring to the situation, the *ground* of our experience is the SAME! ECONOMY means (etymologically) "how we manage our household" and whether its Pretoria or Mumbai or Jakarta or Berlin, in crucial respects we have all been living in the "same" house for quite awhile now. This of course is the theme of GLOBALIZATION -- which was already in place in the 1950s, pre-saged with the Arthur C. Clarke's initial article on geo-stationary satellites intended to "beam" the same television shows to everyone on earth. That is, of course, exactly what happened. Furthermore, following WW II, one group of elites "managed" the world economy -- since they were the "winners." They set up the UN, the IMF/World Back, the CIA and directly ran the "re-invention" of the German and Japanese economies. They defined the Cold War down to the level of "hiring" virtually every intellectual and</pre> Newmedia-YDxpq3io04c< at >public.gmane.org 2012-05-17T13:16:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6807 <pre> European Sociological Association (ESA): Research Network 18 – Sociology of Communications and Media Research Conference “Communication, Crisis, and Critique in Contemporary Capitalism“ October 18-20, 2012. University of the Basque Country, Bilbao Abstract submission deadline: May 31st Keynote talk: Peter Golding "Why a Sociologist should take Communications and Media Seriously” Submission information: http://fuchs.uti.at/wp-content/uploads/ESA_RN18_CfP2012.pdf Dear colleagues, In my role as chair of the European Sociological Association’s (ESA) Research Network 18 – Sociology of Communications and Media Research, I want to invite you to submit abstracts for presentations at the RN18 conference “Communication, Crisis, and Critique in Contemporary Capitalism“. The deadline for submission is approaching – May 31st. The conference will provide opportunities for presenting ideas in the field of the critical study of media, communication &amp; society, for networking, and for meeting pe</pre> Christian Fuchs 2012-05-17T17:41:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6806 <pre> &gt; I would add that each individual or group inserts themsleves &gt; into the social and technical movement at a particular point in &gt; time with a bundle of assets and drawbacks in terms of skills, &gt; experience, online history and offline engagements. It is how &gt; these are combined and the character of our ongoing engaement with &gt; the medium that makes different aspects of digital social life &gt; distinctive for each of us. Ha ha! Well said. And this is also where you really have to open your eyes and ears if you want to do social theory. You know, that's why in the past I used to read Ulrich Beck and even Giddens, because they were able to talk about the diversity of society. (Of course I'm aware Giddens was the leading theorist of center-left neoliberalism, but it was important to understand how that became hegemonic.) Some of the old Multitudes group could also write very well about those multiple entry-points, in a more leftist and workerist way: like Lazzarato in his book on Tarde, or in his work on</pre> Brian Holmes 2012-05-17T18:04:27 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6805 <pre> I broadly agree with this comment. In order to grasp the historicity of our moment of communications, we need to see the interaction of several layers at once. I prefer this to the binary or "revolutionary" approach, before and after, now and then as paired negation. I would add that each individual or group inserts themsleves into the social and technical movement at a particular point in time with a bundle of assets and drawbacks in terms of skills, experience, online history and offline engagements. It is how these are combined and the character of our ongoing engaement with the medium that makes different aspects of digital social life distinctive for each of us. Some people hate Facebook and want to undermine its seedy monopoly. Fair enough, but for now I have good use for it. I am less concerned with privacy than some because I grew up in a working class community after the war and so on. I offer the young geeks a vision of their place in history and they help me out as I stumble through a medium the</pre> Keith Hart 2012-05-17T05:28:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6803 <pre>This assumes the static model of 'engagement'. The 'engagement' via web in the past decade or so has substantially modified the way people think and ... engage. The situation today is not the one where 1980's person is put in front of 2010's web. In that case there would definitely be a gross indignation and rejection. The situation today is where groomed mid-attention span (not the short-attention one like with TV), through amplification of short-attention events ("trending" - WTF would one care what gazillion morons click on?), does affect the rules of "rational engagement". While TV was skin-deep, the Web goes to the bone. It is not about short attention span any more. It is about hijacking the rules of engagement, and it can do it because it is interactive. They don't need banner ads any more. </pre> Morlock Elloi 2012-05-16T18:23:05 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6802 <pre>Jon: Excellent question! How much do you know about advertising and how "analog" mass-media works as a business? My comments on this are the result of spending lots of time with people in that industry over the past 20 years, which was made easier by a) living in Manhattan (i.e. Madison Avenue is close-by) and b) "coining" the term "New Media," so some in the ad-world thought they might learn a bit from me (I got this email address on the AOL from Steve Case on the 1992 AOL road-show, where I was the investment banker) and c) writing about this subject since the late 90s (particularly when I "predicted" the timing of the 2000 Internet Bubble collapse, based on the failure of the online "banner-ads" of the time) and d) working with dozens of startups who were trying to figure out ad-based business models. Advertising on a mass-scale was a *new* phenomenon in the early 20th century. It was based on various psychological theories -- some behaviorist, some Freudian etc. All o</pre> Newmedia-YDxpq3io04c< at >public.gmane.org 2012-05-16T13:39:33 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6801 <pre>Sotheby's: offer your art handlers a fair contract Sign the petition at = http://www.change.org/petitions/sotheby-s-offer-your-art-handlers-a-fair-c= ontract May 1, 2011 For the past eight months, Sotheby's has locked its 43 unionized art = handlers out of work. Rather than negotiating a fair contract with its = employees, the company has issued a set of demands: the gutting of the = art handlers' union, the elimination of health insurance and other = benefits, and the replacement of full-time skilled workers with = temporary unskilled laborers. Sotheby's has decided that the handling of priceless artworks is an easy = job; that low-paid temporary workers with little training or incentive = can manage the constant stream of artifacts into and out of the world's = largest auction house. The 43 locked-out workers who have made art = handling their career know this is not true. There have been no negotiations. In meeting after meeting, Sotheby's has = stalled, preferring instead to extend the lockout in th</pre> anton vidokle 2012-05-01T21:50:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6800 <pre> I don't want to suggest that everything is business as usual, but my understanding is that this is pretty normal in financial crises in capitalism, when there is a shortage in the money supply, and governments abandon the 'keysian solution'. Certainly where i live banks seem to be refusing to loan to anyone who cannot immediately pay them off - which basically means small business and normal people cannot borrow. So, to a certain extent the 'bottom' end of the economy, (which has never been provided for first) is finding it hard to get credit, and given that credit seems to have been the main source of spending then spending will decline. Whether this will eventually fix itself or not i don't know. But i have no idea what this has to do with 'new media', the decline of mass media, or indeed conspicuous consumption. My point was that conspicuous consumption still seems to flourish in the new media field, where status spending fits in with market drives and status claims. I'm also not sure that the mass</pre> Jonathan Marshall 2012-05-15T23:10:04 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6799 <pre>Commercialization makes your online rights irrelevant, more thoughts from my talk with &lt; at &gt;ioerror at #rp12 Last week I wrote about one of the topics Jacob Appelbaum and I discussed at our talk at Re:publica 2012 {1}; that as a result of the commercialization of the Internet, we have moved from free and open social platform, to the centralized social media monopolies we know today. Today I want to mention another issue that we covered, how commercialization is putting an end to the Internet as a public space. It's import to understand that it's not that capital does not want to fund free and open platforms, or that capitalists choose not to: capital simply can not do so. Capital can not fund free and open platforms because capitalists must capture profit or lose their capital, and thus for-profit platforms that can not capture profit must eventually vanish. In order to capture profit, capitalist funded platforms must introduce choke-points and/or toll-gates into there platforms, because their b</pre> Dmytri Kleiner 2012-05-15T12:29:27 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.internet.nettime/6798 <pre>Hello Nettimers. Below is an essay response to an installation/intervention artwork I made last year as part of a series of commisions by Letting Space - an organisation producing site-specific works in commercial spaces left vacant since the 2008 market contractions. My project broke into the inner architecture of a 9 floor office block and took over the building's lighting system to run it via a data feed replaying that day's stock market activity. To some degree, this project was shaped by consumption of Nettime discourse. cheers, Colin LINK: http://www.lettingspace.org.nz/essay-market-testament HOPE IS NOT ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT Martin Patrick looks retrospectively at Colin Hodson?s April 2011 Letting Space project The Market Testament "If art and politics meet at all, it?s in the obligation to work concretely in the present toward an ideal that may never be fully attainable" - Barry Schwabsky, The Nation, 12 Jan 2012 Cinematic Disasters I spent my otherwise uneventful small town pre-adolescence</pre> colin hodson 2012-05-14T02:42:54 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.culture.internet.nettime