http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52430 <pre>OR Editors, Following is a review on a custom quilt I had made from Hammock Gear. I often refer the reader back to a quilt by the same name that I wrote a year ago. The main differences are an updated suspension and the custom fabric choice. I do a great deal of referring back to the former OR and comparing. I hope this is acceptable. If not, I'll be happy to change. Just let me know!!! I have two other custom quilts I can write on, but they won't really need all the references this one did. I also have two or three other hammock related OR's I'm working on if time allows... ~SMK HTML: http://alturl.com/2vkv4 OR http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/OWNER%20REVIEWS/OR-HAMMOCK%20GEAR%20INCUBATOR-STEVE%20KIDD/ TEXT: HAMMOCK GEAR INCUBATOR 20* F [CUSTOM FABRIC] BY STEVEN M KIDD OR May 20, 2013 TESTER INFORMATION NAME: Steven M Kidd EMAIL: ftroop94ATgmailDOTcom AGE: 40 LOCATION: Franklin, Tennessee GENDER: M HEIGHT: 5' 9" (1.75 m) WEIGHT: 173 lb (78.50 kg) Backpacking Backgroun</pre> ftroop94 2013-05-21T23:45:55 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52429 <pre>Hello OR Editors, I'm long overdue for posting some more ORs but they're going to be slow coming. I finally got one done though! Seems short but, well, it's a saw. Red pens out! Andrea HTML: http://tinyurl.com/bntamyv Text: Black Diamond FlickLock Snow Saw Owner Review by Andrea Murland May 16, 2013 Tester Information Name: Andrea Murland Email: amurland AT shaw DOT ca Age: 27 Location: Elkford &amp; Kimberley, British Columbia, Canada Gender: Female Height: 5 ft 2 in (1.57 m) Weight: 125 lb (57 kg) I began hiking frequently in 2006 and have since hiked in Western Canada, Australia, and spent 2 months backpacking in the Alps. I spend most weekends either day-hiking or on 2-3 day backpacking trips, with some longer trips when I can manage them. I also snowshoe and ski in the winter, but don't have a lot of experience with winter in the backcountry yet. Elevation is typically 500-3,000 m (1,600-10,000 ft), in the Canadian Rockies and the Selkirk, Purcell, and Monashee ranges. I try for a light p</pre> ringrat55 2013-05-18T02:45:27 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52428 <pre>http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/OR%20-%20Ursack%20food%20bag%20by%20Joe%20Schaffer/ Thank you for your kind edits! (or not so kind--all welcome) Ursack Bear Bag OWNER REVIEW by Joe Schaffer May 30, 2013 REVIEWER INFORMATION: NAME: Joe Schaffer EMAIL: never2muchstuff-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org AGE: 65 GENDER: Male HEIGHT: 5'9" (1.75 m) WEIGHT: 175 lb (79.4 kg) HOME: Hayward, California USA I frequent California's central Sierras, camping every month; up to 95 nights a year; about half the time solo; moving nearly every day. As a comfort camper I lug tent, mattress, chair, etc. Summer trips last typically a week to 10 days; 40 lb (18 kg), about half food-related; about 5 miles (8 km) per hiking day. I winter camp most often at 6,000' to 7,000' (1,800 to 2,100 m); 2 to 3 nights; 55 lb (25 kg); 1 to 4 miles (1.5 to 6 km) on snowshoes. I work occasionally at an outdoor store. The Product: Ursack bear resistant food sack Manufacturer: Ursack </pre> never2muchstuff 2013-05-16T18:05:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52427 <pre>Welcome Ken to BackpackGearTest.org. I here you are very eager to get testing with us. Thank you for your Owner Review and your interest in becoming a tester. Unfortunately, as it stands now you do not have enough field use with this particular item to meet our minimum Owner Review requirements. If you have another piece of gear with more time in the field, that would be better to start with. Additionally, it is not uncommon for new writers to need a bit more help before their first OR is ready for the editing process. If you would more assistance we have a Mentoring Program – This program teams new reviewers with experienced veterans to help get them through their first review(s). If you'd like more assistance or guidance with the process you can request a mentor by sending an email to Mentor(at)backpackgeartest.org - Please use MENTOR REQUEST in the subject line. You can also take a second look at our Owner Review requirements spelled out in the How to Become a Tester section of our webpage (link be</pre> Jamie D. 2013-05-16T03:47:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52426 <pre>Wyatt, Welcome to BackpackGearTest.org, and thanks for your Owner Review. I'll be your editor, and I look forward to working with you to get it ready for posting. Before getting to specific edits, I'm going to point out a few BackpackGearTest.org (BGT) conventions that you need to review. In fact I suggest that you re-read the Survival Guide's chapter on Owner Reviews, where some of my comments below are discussed in greater depth. 1. Title should be three lines: first line (usually in larger type and bold) is the product name, second line is "Owner Review by [name of author]," and third line the date – written out rather than merely using numerals, as in many countries the day, not the month, comes first. So yours would read: CAMELBAK CLOUDWALKER Owner Review by Wyatt Freeman May 2, 2013 2. All measurements require conversion, so that both Imperial and metric are listed. All temperatures must be converted, so that both Fahrenheit and Celsius are listed. In addition, BGT has a standard set of abbreviati</pre> richardglyon-fOdFMYwuEsI< at >public.gmane.org 2013-05-14T22:39:43 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52425 <pre>This is the official Owner Review Edit Queue Update. Any uploads done after 9:00 PM Pacific Time on 13 May, 2013 will not be noted until next week's update. If you have questions about the queue please feel free to ask. Thank you. Jamie DeBenedetto Editors Team Director WEEKLY UPDATE:&gt; OWNER REVIEW QUEUE as of May 13 ===================================================================== EDIT Team Members OOP (Out of Pocket) ================================================================= AWAITING EDIT Wyatt Freeman(1) - CamelBak Cloudwalker Review - Posted May 2 (msg#82114), ==================================================================== TAKEN BY AN EDITOR/EDITED RICHARD - James Dillion Asher Jr.(1) - SealLine Boundary Pack- 115L – Posted Mar 30 (msg#82039), Taken Apr 3, Edit Apr 4 (82057), Repost Apr 9, Edit Apr 10 (82064), Repost Apr 14, Edit-Picture request Apr 15(82084) RICHARD - Jaco-Chris Koorts(1) - Cape Union Mart Advance 85 hiking backpack - Posted Apr 5 (msg#82059 &amp; 82059), Taken A</pre> Jamie D. 2013-05-14T03:46:24 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52424 <pre>OK Bob, this looks good. There is just one problem at the bottom of the HTML that needs to be fixed. Afterward you may place the review at: Reviews &gt; Packs &gt; Frameless Backpacks and Day Packs &gt; REI Pinnacle 35 daypack Or here: http://tinyurl.com/c5nr6yl Review By: Bob Dorenfeld Southern Colorado Rocky Mountains Review By: Bob Dorenfeld Southern Colorado Rocky Mountains Delete one of set these from the bottom of your review. Congrats on finishing number one, Ray </pre> Ray 2013-05-13T23:45:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52423 <pre>Hi Ray, Latest revisions, as follows: - bio trimmed to 99 words - manufacturer full name fixed in Product Information (use REI afterwards) - URL in Product Information revised to "www.rei.com" - State size I am reviewing in Product Information - Removed link to web site below pictures - Updated all text to "day pack" throughout, and revised "(it replaced a 12 year old daypack that has seen better times)," to (it replaced an old and now-inadequate day pack) in Field Use - replaced "those" with "the" in "for those combination hikes" in Field Notes - Replaced "attaching" with "attached" in " quick-release buckles attaching to the roll-top" in Field Notes thanks, ~Bob REI PINNACLE 35 TECHNICAL DAY PACK BY Bob Dorenfeld OR April 15, 2013 TESTER INFORMATION NAME: Bob Dorenfeld EMAIL: geartestatsageandsprucedotnet AGE: 55 LOCATION: Salida, Colorado, USA GENDER: M HEIGHT: 5' 6" (1.68 m) WEIGHT: 150 lb (68.00 kg) I'm an active hiker, snowshoer, skier (Nordic &amp; alpine), backpacker. I live at 7000 ft (2</pre> geartest7000 2013-05-13T01:39:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52422 <pre>Hi Richard, Thank you for your time and edits. I have made corrections and posted to the BGT site. I hope you're having fun out there in the springtime weather! -Alex Legg --- In BackpackGearTest-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, "richardglyon&lt; at &gt;..." &lt;montana.angler&lt; at &gt;...&gt; wrote: </pre> alex 2013-05-11T19:30:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52421 <pre>Hello Welcome to BackpackGearTest and thank you for this, your first Owner Review. I will be your editor for this review. I see you have been working with a mentor, so you will probably already be used to edits following a format similar to this: EDIT: must be changed Edit: should be changed but will be left to your discretion Comment: just that or something to think about When you have made the changes please repost here with REPOST added to the subject line. Include your name also please. Ray ***Manufacturer: Vasque EDIT: it is actually Red Wing Shoe Company, Inc. (Vasque is just one of their brands) ***MSRP: US 159.99 EDIT: as the Vasque website does not list MSRPs just show this as: N/A *** I have also used the boots walking to college classes or just going on a nice day hike to just escape. I have been using the boot almost constantly since I bought them in December 2010. In terms of taking care of the boot, it does not require much maintenance to keep looking new. EDIT: you keep jumpi</pre> Ray 2013-05-11T16:25:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52420 <pre>Hi Bob, Whenever you upload a new version of a review or report you should delete the earlier version. Good job on the re-write. I have a few more edits, including some I already gave the first time. Once corrected please put a new version in the test folder (deleting the last ones) and repost here again. Ray ***I'm an active hiker, snowshoer, EDIT: the bios need to be 100 words or less. Please trim a bit. ***Manufacturer: REI, Inc. EDIT: please spell out their full name at least the first time, putting (REI) after it. Then you can use REI for the rest of the review. Plus no extra "Inc." ***Manufacturer's Website: REI, Inc. EDIT: please spell out the actual URL (www.rei.com/) ***Option: Available in M or L torso size EDIT: please state the size you are reviewing. ***REI Pinnacle 35 Daypack EDIT: please remove this link. We don't link to anything but the manufacturer's top-level URL. ***I've been using this pack constantly for one year (it replaced a 12 year old daypack that has s</pre> Ray 2013-05-11T12:54:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52419 <pre>Alex, Thanks for keeping the ORs coming. A few edits in the standard BGT format: EDIT (all caps) a required change, Edit (initial cap) a suggested change or request for clarification, and Comment a comment, no change required. After revising, you may upload to http://tinyurl.com/cakjmvd Don't forget to delete your Tests/OR folder copy. Cheers, Richard ###Shoe Size: 13 Mens### EDIT: Replace with your jacket or sport coat size. ### I encounter elevation from 5,000 ft to 14,000 ft and temperatures from below 0 F to 90 F. ### EDIT: Need metric and Celsius conversions. ###Measured Weight: 10.7 oz### EDIT: Need metric conversion. Edit: I'd indicate your size here. Up to you. ### Materials: 100% Polyester with DWR finish ### Edit: Does SD give any indication about what's in the materials? If so, consider adding a sentence or two. ### The Sierra Designs Microlight Men's Jacket is a microlight waterproof wind stopping jacket that packs down to a very manageable size.### Edit: wind-stopping (or windstopping) </pre> richardglyon-fOdFMYwuEsI< at >public.gmane.org 2013-05-10T06:15:05 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52418 <pre>Joe, Another excellent review, including very illustrative photos. Edits below in the standard BGT format: EDIT (all caps) a required change, Edit (initial cap) a suggested change or request for clarification, and Comment a comment, no change required. After revising, you may upload to http://tinyurl.com/d58vueq Don't forget to delete your Tests/OR folder copy. Cheers, Richard Gregory Denali Pro ### by Joe Schaffer OWNER REVIEW ### EDIT: Either reverse these lines ("OWNER REVIEW" on top) or one line (OWNER REVIEW by Joe Schaffer) ### author and Denali Pro TESTER INFORMATION:### EDIT: Author [initial cap] EDIT: REVIEWER INFORMATION [This is an Owner Review, not a Test Report] ### I work occasionlly at an outdoor store. ### EDIT: occasionally [spelling] ###Product Description:### Comment: I thought this section one of the best I've seen in quite a while – everything a buyer would want to know and no unnecessary information. ### logging about 3 miles (5 k) ### EDIT: (5 km) [Same change in two other </pre> richardglyon-fOdFMYwuEsI< at >public.gmane.org 2013-05-10T06:12:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52417 <pre>Hi Ray, Thanks for your suggestions - I'm glad to see a site that pays attention to careful and clear writing. I've made all of your edits, plus a few more as follows: - Revised first sentence of Product Description, and added new sentence at end specifying this review for the M size - Added new paragraph on minor issues (near bottom of Field Use) - Revised last sentence of first paragraph Field Use - change "most" to "many" in Product Description "The extras not found on many day packs..." - in list of "What I Like Best", change "top" to plural "- tops of shoulder straps..." - Revised second sentence in paragraph about attaching poles in Field Use "It comes with a small zippered pocket..." - Added new paragraph about attaching poles in Field Use - changed numerals to words in various places I uploaded new HTML, calling it "REPOST OR - REI Pinnacle 35 daypack - Bob Dorenfeld", instead of replacing the original. Is that correct? Regards, ~Bob REI PINNACLE 35 TECHNICAL DAYPACK BY Bob Dorenfeld OR</pre> geartest7000 2013-05-09T22:39:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52416 <pre> http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/Outdoor%20Products-Backpackers%20Tarp/ Outdoor PRODUCTS -Backpackers TarpBY KEN TOPLISSORMay 01, 2013 TESTER INFORMATION NAME: Ken ToplissEMAIL: kvtopliss-aTXHyhIPZKbHhMhVa4Fong&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org: 57LOCATION: Canon City, Colorado, USAGENDER: MHEIGHT: 5' 8" (1.73 m)WEIGHT: 170 lb (77.10 kg) Backpacking has been my passion for all of my adult life. My trips are primarily in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. I have trekked National Parks in the western United States with extensive time in Yellowstone, Glacier, Olympic, and Mount Rainier. I trek year round. Each trip is one or two nights. I do two one week long trips each year. I prefer ultra light packing, but allow myself creature comforts such as a self inflating pad. I spend about 40 nights a year in the back country. I trek solo or with one or two friends,and my black lab. PRODUCT INFORMATION Manufacturer: Outdoor ProductsYear of Manufacture: Not listedManufacturer's Website: www.outdoorproducts.comMSRP: No</pre> KENNETH V TOPLISS 2013-05-09T02:30:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52415 <pre>Hello Bob Welcome to BackpackGearTest and thank you for this, your first Owner Review. You did a very good job on it (even though it looks like you have a lot of edits;-) I will be your editor for this review. Your initial edits will follow. They will take the following format; EDIT: must be changed Edit: should be changed but will be left to your discretion Comment: just that or something to think about When you have made the changes please repost here with REPOST added to the subject line. Include your name also please. Some very helpful information may be found here; http://www.backpackgeartest.org/lesson.php?lesson=BecomeTester&amp;page=1 Please notice the form that the review should take in the "Examples", you may also wish to browse the reviews of other experienced members for examples of the proper form. If you want a better set of lessons email me. (Link is to the right under my name.) A helpful tool is the Mentoring Program that teams new reviewers with experienced veterans to help get them throug</pre> Ray 2013-05-08T23:04:24 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52414 <pre>Congratulations, Joe! Hope to see a lot of you in the future! Kathy From: BackpackGearTest-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org [mailto:BackpackGearTest-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Jamie D. Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:31 PM To: BackpackGearTest-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Subject: [BackpackGearTest] Congrats are in order!! Please welcome our newest newbie, Joe Schaffer. Congrats Joe and welcome to official Tester status! Get those apps in and get some gear! Editors Team Director Jamie D [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] </pre> Kathy Waters 2013-05-07T21:17:32 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52413 <pre>RICHARD - Adam Albertson(1) - OR men's VERGLAS GAITER – Posted Mar 8 (msg#82011), Taken Mar 22, Edit Mar 22(82023), Follow-up sent May 2, Hi Adam, I hope we didn't scare you off. Following a review of our Owner Review queue at BackpackGearTest.org I noticed you have not responded to the Edit given for the above Owner's Review, which was posted by Richard back on March 22nd. Please refer to message number 82023 at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/messages Are you planning to continue with the OR? We are here to help so please don't hesitate to ask if there is something we can assist you with so you can complete your Owner Review? Please let me know how you wish to proceed with this review so I can inform your editor and update the Edit Queue. Regards Jamie DeBenedetto Editors Team Director </pre> Jamie D. 2013-05-05T04:40:32 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52412 <pre>This is the official Owner Review Edit Queue Update. Any uploads done after 9:00 PM Pacific Time on 2 May, 2013 will not be noted until next week's update. If you have questions about the queue please feel free to ask. Thank you. Jamie DeBenedetto Editors Team Director ===================================================================== EDIT Team Members OOP (Out of Pocket) RICHARD Apr 28 to May 11 ================================================================= AWAITING EDIT Bob Dorenfeld(1) - REI PINNACLE 35 TECHNICAL Daypack - Posted Apr 18 (msg#82088), Alex Legg - Sierra Designs Microlight Jacket - Men's - Posted Apr 18 (msg#82092), Joe Schaffer - Gregory Denali Pro - Posted Apr 22 (msg#82094), Davis Meschke(M)(1) - Vasque Breeze GTX Hiking Boots - Posted Apr 23 (msg#82097), awaiting Mentor approval, Repost Apr 25(82110), Wyatt Freeman(1) - CamelBak Cloudwalker Review - Posted May 2 (msg#82114), ==================================================================== TAKEN BY AN EDITOR/EDITED </pre> Jamie D. 2013-05-05T04:37:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52411 <pre>Hello new folks, We are super glad you are here and hope you will be joining the ranks of our established gear testers very soon. Below you will find some must do's if you want your Owner Review (OR) added to our Edit Queue. These points will make your life and the lives of those involved with the OR process much easier. We all appreciate you taking time to review and apply this info. BEFORE submitting your first OR. 1. READ the "How to Become a Tester" information on the www.backpackgeartest.org website carefully. I know at first glance the documentation seems like a major uphill climb but as with all summits, the work you put in ahead of time will definitely pay off as you work your way through our process. 2. We strongly encourage new writers to write about, A. a simple piece of gear and B. and item with which you have lots of trail time. By lots we mean a season or more involving several days/nights in the field. Use around town, in your backyard, etc. does not count as field time. 3. ORs will NOT</pre> Jamie D. 2013-05-05T04:34:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest/52410 <pre>PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL IN FULL. IT IS MOST IMPORTANT! Thanks for your Owner's Review. It has been added to the Owner Review Queue and will be picked up by an Edit Moderator soon. If you are new to BackpackGearTest.org, welcome to the community! The Editors will work with you, within their own time constraints, to get your first two Owner Reviews approved and upload in a timely manner. Do not worry if nothing happens with it for several days. All our Editors are volunteers and your report will be subject to an official edit within fourteen days. If you have not had a response from an Edit Moderator via the Yahoo Groups list within this timeframe, please let me know directly at jdeben(at)hotmail.com To assist in this process, if this is your first Owner Review we ask that you post only ONE Owner Review for edit at a time. Our experience is that it is more efficient for both the Editors and yourself, if you post your first review, have it edited, approved and uploaded before you post your second and subsequen</pre> Jamie D. 2013-05-05T04:33:32 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.culture.backpacking.backpackgeartest