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Re: New build WTL 8.1.12085 available

Philippe — 2012-04-18T18:56:36

Thnak you. All the best to the WTL team !



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Re: New build WTL 8.1.12085 available

yarp — 2012-03-29T19:56:49

Great !

Thanks Nenad, 


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New build WTL 8.1.12085 available

Nenad Stefanović — 2012-03-25T23:08:00

Hello everybody,

New build of WTL 8.1.12085 is on SourceForge.net. It adds support for VC++
11 as well as some bug fixes.

Cheers,
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Re: Re: CShellFileOpenDialog/CShellFileSaveDialog hang up my App

Konstantin Mironovich — 2012-02-18T14:14:21

Thank for the idea, I don't think it's necessary. Nevertheless I've tried 
both cases.
Anyway this code works with S_OK :
CComPtr<IFileSaveDialog> pfd = fd.GetPtr();

CComQIPtr<IFileDialogCustomize> pfdc = pfd;


(btw, customization is the reason for me to use subj dialogs)

-km

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  Hi,

  could it be that all that is missing is a call to CoInitialize?

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Re: CShellFileOpenDialog/CShellFileSaveDialog hang up my App

Timo Kunze — 2012-02-17T20:39:30

Hi,

could it be that all that is missing is a call to CoInitialize?

Regards
Timo

Re: CShellFileOpenDialog/CShellFileSaveDialog hang up my App

Konstantin Mironovich — 2012-02-17T17:49:10

the default parent is ::GetActiveWindow()
for both CFileDialog::DoModal() and CShellFileSaveDialog::DoModal()
and only the first works in my case.
Win7 will be next. not tried yet.

-km

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Re: CShellFileOpenDialog/CShellFileSaveDialog hang up my App

Nenad Stefanović — 2012-02-17T08:24:03

Parent needs to be a top level window, not just valid. Or, it could be
Vista - have you tried it on Win7?

Cheers,
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Re: CShellFileOpenDialog/CShellFileSaveDialog hang up my App

Konstantin Mironovich — 2012-02-17T06:44:56

guess the parent is valid.
furthermore CFileDialog works pretty good in this App.
also both work in another WTL-based program.
I suspect these Vista COM-based dialogs are just ill-designed.


-km

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  What is GetParent() returning in your code?

  Cheers,
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  2012/2/16 Konstantin Mironovich <const-9BSg73gDhEU< at >public.gmane.org>

  > probably something wrong with my App mainloop.
  > fd.DoModal(::GetDesktopWindow()) works fine.
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  >
  > -km
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  > > Hello,
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  > > I wonder but I cannot

Re: CShellFileOpenDialog/CShellFileSaveDialog hang up my App

Nenad Stefanović — 2012-02-17T01:00:30

What is GetParent() returning in your code?

Cheers,
Nenad




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Re: CShellFileOpenDialog/CShellFileSaveDialog hang up my App

Konstantin Mironovich — 2012-02-17T00:49:45

probably something wrong with my App mainloop.
fd.DoModal(::GetDesktopWindow()) works fine.


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CShellFileOpenDialog/CShellFileSaveDialog hang up my App

Konstantin Mironovich — 2012-02-15T19:37:03

Hello,

I wonder but I cannot find the reason.
The code is:

CShellFileSaveDialog fd;

if (fd.DoModal(GetParent()) == IDOK)

{

  CStringW s;

  fd.GetFilePath(s);

}

DoModal() hangs my WTL-based program. I believe the latest WTL build is used 
under Vista x64 + Sp2.


Thanks

-km 



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Re: _ATL_MIN_CRT triggers Avast Sandbox

Nenad Stefanović — 2012-02-03T23:34:18

Hi Peter,

Thanks for sharing this info. Based on it, we have to conclude that there
is nothing really wrong with the _ATL_MIN_CRT code. And that is very good
thing to know.

Cheers,
Nenad





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RE: _ATL_MIN_CRT triggers Avast Sandbox

Peter Kvitek — 2012-02-03T22:46:12

Our WTL based app has millions of installations and roughly twice a year one
or the other antivirus package starts flagging it as malware after virus
definitions update. We routinely contact the antivirus vendor and they
release an update that fixes the problem the next day or the day after.

 

It's still very confusing for our users, so at some point I had a meeting
with one of the big name antivirus vendors' devs trying to figure out a way
to prevent this from happening. Unfortunately, the process they use is
largely heuristic, so false positives are expected and there is not much we
can do about it.

 

In this particular case the pattern was probably acquired from the malware
executable that happened to be built with ATL in _ATL_MIN_CRT mode.
Anti-virus package should be smart enough to find unique pattern that
identifies the malware executable, so bits coming from the commonly used
library or framework cannot be part of it.

 

/Peter

 

 

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Re: Re: _ATL_MIN_CRT triggers Avast Sandbox

Nenad Stefanović — 2012-01-24T01:07:32

Hi Dick,

I agree completely with you.

The only people that can help here are guys working on Avast, that they
don't seem to be very helpful. That is really too bad. At this point we can
only wait and see if there are any changes.

Cheers,
Nenad




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Re: Re: _ATL_MIN_CRT triggers Avast Sandbox

Nenad Stefanović — 2012-01-24T01:04:02

Hi Gabriel,

That is very interesting. It is probably because Avast is different on
64-bit. Unfortunately, I don't have any 64-bit machine to try that on.

Cheers,
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Re: _ATL_MIN_CRT triggers Avast Sandbox

Nenad Stefanović — 2012-01-24T01:02:03

Hi Angus,

_ATL_MIN_CRT replaces the CRT startup code by replacing main() function.
You still link to CRT library, but can't use any of the CRT functions that
require startup code. When you do, you get unresolved function main() while
linking. The advantage of doing this is that resulting executable is much
smaller. This is useful for small apps or DLLs.

Cheers,
Nenad




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Re: _ATL_MIN_CRT triggers Avast Sandbox

Nenad Stefanović — 2012-01-24T00:58:20

Hi Phil,

I am not concerned about my project, this is about WTL. If _ATL_MIN_CRT
does cause some real problem, then WTL should not support it. I don't know
if Avast use of sandbox is legitimate or not.

Avast is also free.

Cheers,
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RE: Re: _ATL_MIN_CRT triggers Avast Sandbox

Dick Dievendorff — 2012-01-21T14:33:54

Nenad:

 

I author a program that uses WTL (incidentally compiled with ATL_MIN_CRT)
that at one time was diagnosed by one anti-malware version as being infected
with a Trojan.

 

I would think that many of these programs use pattern matching, and there's
tension between finding malware and "false positives" caused by finding a
common pattern in "normal" as well as "bad" code. Perhaps some malware used
ATL_MIN_CRT and the anti-malware pattern author used something in the ATL
code added with ATL_MIN_CRT as the pattern to identify the malware.  

 

The problem may just go away with an Avast pattern file update that corrects
their pattern match.  I wouldn't change anything in WTL for this.  I'd try
to contact the anti-malware vendor to report this "false positive" situation
(my attempts at this have all failed). It's good to let the ATL community
know so that the poor authors that use ATL_MIN_CRT have a chance to respond
to their users who can perhaps influence their anti-malware vendor. Having a
list of othe

Re: _ATL_MIN_CRT triggers Avast Sandbox

Gabriel Kniznik — 2012-01-21T14:07:55

Hi, Nenad


         I just tried three projects compiled with _ATL_MIN_CRT with 
Avast 6.0.1367 installed and nothing happened (no sandbox).
We should grep the whole library and check what may be wrong. My system 
is Windows 7 64 bit.

Best regards,

Gabriel



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Re: _ATL_MIN_CRT triggers Avast Sandbox

Angus Comber — 2012-01-21T12:44:42

I am trying to work out what ATL_MIN_CRT does.  I can see in the compilation of WTL it uses its own string handling functions to avoid the CRT startup code.  But how does it change the link process?  It must be setting some flag to exlude use of the C runtime?  How does it do that?

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  Hi Phil,

  I could, but this is not about my project, it is about WTL and its support
  for _ATL_MIN_CRT.

  Have you had any problems with Avast? Works fine for me in general.

  Cheers,
  Nenad

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  > You could just compile without this setting or better yet uninstall
  > that snake oil software of Avast and just use the free MS security
  > essentials if you think you need it.