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    <title>Re: [STUMP] "Focus follows mouse click" behaviour</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3120</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
I think you're looking for the following:

   (setf *mouse-focus-policy* :click)

Cheers,
sam

On Tuesday, June 18 2013, 13:15:58, vasily postnicov wrote:



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    <title>[STUMP] Where did the name come from?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3119</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Guys!

Where did the name for the Stump WM come from?

I completely understand how "Ratpoison" got its name, but what about "Stump?"

Thanks!
- Bill
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    <dc:creator>Bill Zimmerly</dc:creator>
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    <title>[STUMP] "Focus follows mouse click" behaviour</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3118</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello. I've recently bought second display and configured my machine to
work with two separate X screens. I switch between them using key bindings
to "snext"/"sprev" commands. But I find quite irritating to have one set of
bindings to switch between screens and another to switch between frames.

I would like to introduce click-following focus behaviour instead. As I can
understand by reading sources I need to call #'frame-raise-window (or maybe
#'pull-window) somewhere in event handler. Maybe I also need to define
proper event mask in *window-events*. It's just my suggestions.

So my question is this: Can we make focus to follow clicks with low cost
(in time) in stumpwm? Any suggestions?
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Stumpwm-devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 5</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3117</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;stumpwm is a great WM which i use everyday.

在 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:00:20 +0800，Bill Zimmerly &amp;lt;billzimmerly&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt;  
写道:



&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>z_axis</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-06-14T09:36:34</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Stumpwm-devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 5</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3116</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thank you for all of your help, guys!   :)

I have the WM working exactly the way I want it to, and I couldn't have
without all of your help.

I'm working on the Wiki documentation off-line and will transfer it there
when done.

This is one very fine program! Congratulations to all who made it such -
especially the original author.

- Bill
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Stumpwm-devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3115</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
There is a command (dump-window-placement-rules file) to dump the
current placemnt to a file for use with
(restore-window-placement-rules file)

Thus, in a nutshell, you have to create the group layout you want by hand,
dump the layout (which contains only the frames you created) with 
(dump-group-to-file file) or (dump-desktop-to-file file) -- the latter
will dump ALL groups, the first one only the current group --

and dump the window placement rules which tell stumpwm which window has
to be placed in which fram with

(dump-window-placement-rules file).

to restore you have to do the reverse:
(restore-from-file my-layout)
(restore-window-placement-rules my placement-rules)
(launch all applications you want)

Greetings,

Ruthard

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    <dc:creator>Ruthard Baudach</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-06-12T07:43:33</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Stumpwm-devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3114</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Bill!


Take a look at the user manual:
http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/manual/stumpwm.html

Chapter 6. Frames -&amp;gt; Frames contain windows. All windows exist within a frame.

Stefan.
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Stumpwm-devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3113</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Stefan!


I didn't. In this context, how does a frame differ from a window?

But be that as it is, I'll try out the code you showed me. (Thanks!)

- Bill


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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Stumpwm-devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3112</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Bill,


Did you setup some window placement rules?

Here is part of the things that I am doing:

,----
| ;; Clear rules
| (clear-window-placement-rules)
| 
| (define-frame-preference "System"
|   ;; frame raise lock (lock AND raise == jumpto)
|   (0 t   t :title "htop")
|   (0 t   t :title "aumix")
|   )
| 
| (define-frame-preference "Default"
|   ;; frame raise lock (lock AND raise == jumpto)
|   (0 t   t :title "emacs")
| ;;  (0 t   t :class "Xpdf")
|   )
| 
| (define-frame-preference "Misc"
|   ;; frame raise lock (lock AND raise == jumpto)
|   (0 t   t :class "Firefox")
|   )
| 
| (run-commands "gnewbg System" "gnewbg Misc")
`----

The important thing is to find out the match properties for your applications.

I use show-window-properties to display them. I have bound it to the
root-map to make the command easy accessible:

(define-key *root-map* (kbd "I") "show-window-properties")


Stefan.
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Stumpwm-devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3111</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I'm close guys, but I just don't know how to solve the latest problem. Here
is the code that I have at the end of my .stumpwmrc file:

;; Now to load a saved desktop and fill it up! (Cross your fingers.)
(defun myws ()
  (restore-from-file "~/bin/stump/desktop.stump")
  (run-commands "exec totem")
  (run-shell-command "sleep 5s")
  (run-commands "fnext")
  (run-commands "emacs")
  (run-shell-command "sleep 5s")
  (run-commands "fnext")
  (run-commands "exec firefox"))

(myws)

I restore the desktop layout (which works) and then attempt to fill the
frames with running programs. I thought "sleep 5s" would help, but it
didn't.

I also tried using:

 (restore-from-file "~/bin/stump/desktop.stump")
 (run-commands "exec totem" "fselect 1" "emacs" "fselect 2" "exec firefox")

And:

 (restore-from-file "~/bin/stump/desktop.stump")
 (run-commands "exec totem" "fnext" "emacs" "fnext" "exec firefox")

In each case, the programs all come up perfectly, but I just can't seem to
have them start up in the appropriate frames&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] How to re-sort frames</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3110</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Never mind.  I discovered the "renumber" command.



cheers,

      mehul



On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Mehul Sanghvi &amp;lt;mehul.sanghvi&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt;wrote:




&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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    <dc:date>2013-06-11T22:10:27</dc:date>
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    <title>[STUMP] How to re-sort frames</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3109</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I use a single group with multiple frames.  Each frame is assigned a number
and if I do &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Prefix-" &amp;gt;&amp;gt;, I get a list of the frames that are available.
 How do I change the order of the frames ?

I am used to having certain frames, like emacs and chromium and icedove,
located at certain numbers.  &amp;lt;&amp;lt;prefix-2&amp;gt; will switch to emacs, &amp;lt;&amp;lt;prefix-3&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
will switch to chromium.  If I connect an external monitor, and use my
laptop screen as wel,  then when I change back to just the laptop screen
again, I have to do a restart-soft in order to get the mode-line back.
 Doing the restart-soft changes the order of the frames within the group
though.


Any thoughts and/or suggestions ?


cheers,

     mehul

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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Stumpwm-devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3108</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I'm not there yet, but have made
progress. I'll report back later.

- Bill
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Totally confused about starting up applications...</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3107</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

Take a look at my configuration:

http://www.xsteve.at/prg/stumpwm/

I don't start the applications at startup. However they are started
using run-or-raise when I first use them. I am happy with this approach.

You could try to use run-shell-command to start an application.

I use it for example to do this on startup:

(run-shell-command "setxkbmap -model evdev")



Stefan.
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Totally confused about starting up applications...</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3106</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

You have to create them manually before the use of
define-frame-preference. I have the following in my configuration file:

(when *initializing*
  (mapcar #'gnewbg
  '(
    "mail"
    "org"
    "chat"
    "music"
    "web"
    "admin"
    "devel"
    "docs"
    "monitoring"
    )))


The info command is bound to «C-t i», showing the dimensions, window
number and title of the current window. I added the following:

(define-key *root-map* (kbd "I") "info %g :: %r :: %c")

To show the gravity, role and class. With this is easier to manually
write frame preferences by inspecting the windows you want to write
rules for.


That will be great!

Servilio

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    <dc:date>2013-06-10T19:16:10</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] Totally confused about starting up applications...</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Servilio Afre Puentes &amp;lt;
afrepues&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;rhpcs.mcmaster.ca&amp;gt; wrote:

Are the groups without the :create flag already created?

How can I tell?

Keep in mind that this is the only startup example in the doc directory, so
I'm given no instructions on what to do other than to rename it to
.stumpwmrc and start the WM.

If I, for example, enter the Prefix-G command, all I see is a message that
says, "1*Default" appear on the screen for about five seconds. (???) What
next???



All that I did was to make sure that I have those programs installed
(XTerm, Ardour, aMule, etc.)



Servilo, I appreciate your help, and when I finally get this thing working,
I'll be writing up step-by-step instructions that can be posted to the Wiki
about how to START using this tool. As it is, all we're given is an example
file for a .stumpwmrc, some very terse documentation, and a lot of email
messages archived. I use Google to try to find other information too.

The problem with systems like this are that while&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

You are welcome!

[...]
[...]

Are the groups without the :create flag already created? If they are,
have you checked the conditions (role, class, etc) actually match to the
ones that the application windows have? Also, I see that XTerm is
matched several times, have checked that not being a source of issues?

Servilio
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thank you for the quick reply, Servilio!  :)

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Servilio Afre Puentes &amp;lt;
afrepues&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;rhpcs.mcmaster.ca&amp;gt; wrote:



I used the "define-frame-reference" code in the example file, but it
doesn't seem to do anything! Here is the code snippet and when the WM
starts up, I see -nothing- but a blank screen and a mouse pointer:

;;; Define window placement policy...

;; Clear rules
(clear-window-placement-rules)

;; Last rule to match takes precedence!
;; TIP: if the argument to :title or :role begins with an ellipsis, a
substring
;; match is performed.
;; TIP: if the :create flag is set then a missing group will be created and
;; restored from *data-dir*/create file.
;; TIP: if the :restore flag is set then group dump is restored even for an
;; existing group using *data-dir*/restore file.
(define-frame-preference "Default"
  ;; frame raise lock (lock AND raise == jumpto)
  (0 t nil :class "Konqueror" :role "...konqueror-mainwindow")
  (1 t nil :class "XTerm"))

(define-frame-preference "A&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

Welcome!


Have taken a look to define-frame-preference?


Yes, mostly, I think.

Servilio
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    <dc:date>2013-06-10T15:41:11</dc:date>
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    <title>[STUMP] Totally confused about starting up applications...</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.stumpwm.devel/3101</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello StumpWM Developers,

My name is Bill Zimmerly and I am new to using this window manager.

I think it shows tremendous promise as exactly the WM I've been looking
for, but it's sometimes difficult to find the information I need to modify
it.

So far, I have a good .stumpwmrc file that does a lot of what I want to do
in configuring stumpwm at startup, but there is one area that I find
bewilderingly complex: startup applications and configuration of their
windows! (Something that I can see is a STRENGTH of stumpwm, but I just
can't seem to "grok" how.)

Can someone show me some exact startup code that will do this? (See below)

Workspace 1 (3 windows)
Top/Left = Xterm
Bottom/Left = Totem
Right = Firefox

Workspace 2 (2 windows)
Left = Xterm
Right = Emacs

I also get confused by what exactly a "group" is. I think it's the same as
a "workspace" in Gnome, for example, but I'm just not sure.

Thank you!
- Bill
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    <dc:creator>Bill Zimmerly</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-06-10T07:22:02</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [STUMP] contrib/mpd modules with stumpwm.</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks Johnny and Z_asix,

I will look into the configuration and will update you.

--
Thanks
Deepak


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:01 PM, z_axis &amp;lt;z_axis&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;163.com&amp;gt; wrote:

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    <dc:creator>Deepak Tripathi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-18T06:36:09</dc:date>
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