http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3334 <pre>Brad, here it is: http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/70/80/67/PDF/SpecTechReport.pdf Best regards Janko Dne 26. 03. 2013 16:01, piše Brad Selfridge: </pre> Janko Mivšek 2013-03-26T15:11:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3333 <pre>Janko, Could you please provide a URL to a definition or explanation of Spec? Thanks, </pre> Brad Selfridge 2013-03-26T15:01:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3332 <pre>Guys, would be this an interesting project to advance Smalltalk UI more toward bleeding edge again, after 30 years, when we were there already with MVC based GUI? Spec project have a potential here and Spec over web frameworks to build fully desktop-capable web apps seems to be achievable. Spec over Amber (who will propose that?), Spec over Aida, Spec over Seaside? Benjamin, would you be a co-mentor of that project? Title: Spec over Aida for desktop-capable Web Apps Level: advanced Possible mentor: Janko Mivšek Possible second mentor: Benjamin? Description Spec as a means to describe and generate GUI has a potential to help building web applications as well. And because one of Spec goals is to become a platform/framework independent, this project has a goal to extend Aida component model for building Single Page web apps to become Spec-aware Technical Details Aida has a component model for building so called Single Page web UIs, capable of composing a hierarchy of so called web widgets,</pre> Janko Mivšek 2013-03-26T14:49:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3331 <pre>Dear Smalltalkers, Time for your cool project ideas on this year Smalltalk GSoC! For now just express any idea you have here on the mailing list. Later we will together develop it to be in complete format together with two mentors needed. Deadline is end of Mart, so we have three weeks of time. To see how fully developed ideas look like please look at 2012 ones at: http://gsoc2012.esug.org/ideas. Note also that students yourselves can propose a GSoC project. So if you like to be a student on this year GSoC and have a nice idea, don't be shy and propose it here! The community will listen you and guide to the really nicely proposed project. Last year 6 student proposed projects were accepted and finished successfully! For the community, start looking around for students. Think about how to approach the universities near by you, do you know who to contact there, etc. We are namely preparing an application to this year Smalltalk Google Summer of Code under ESUG umbrella, as last year. If accepted, Google wi</pre> Janko Mivšek 2013-03-09T12:38:05 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3327 <pre>Hi all, i have a request to develop a mid size to small size an agricultural software. It will be using in the desktop but i am considering develop with aida + persistence layer. I am thinking at aida / pharo aida / cuis. May be someone can comment similar experiences to me . Sorry for my english. TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Sofware Solutions IP Soluciones SRL 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A email: pdigonzelli&lt; at &gt;softsargentina.com email: pdigonzelli&lt; at &gt;gmail.com twitter: &lt; at &gt;pdigonzelli Tel: 0381 4227378 Cel: 0381 155982714 </pre> Pablo R. Digonzelli 2013-02-24T22:00:29 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3326 <pre>From: Buenos Aires, Argentina - Firefox - DSL 20 de febrero de 2013 12:25:57 GMT-03:00 Document CompleteFully Loaded Load Time First ByteStart RenderTimeRequestsBytes InTimeRequestsBytes In First View 5.299s1.467s2.593s5.299s43445 KB7.627s45458 KB Repeat View1.190s0.663s1.000s1.190s313 KB2.088s313 KB HTH. 2013/2/16 Janko Mivšek &lt;janko.mivsek&lt; at &gt;eranova.si&gt;: _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list Aida&lt; at &gt;aidaweb.si http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida </pre> Germán Arduino 2013-02-20T15:28:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3325 <pre>Hi guys, New optimizations as now loaded on the production server so that you can test new Aida speedups online by yourself while opening our website: 1. go to http://www.webpagetest.org 2. enter Website URL: http://www.aidaweb.si Test Location: Amsterdam Browser: Firefox Connection: FIOS (20/5 Mbps 4ms RTT) 3. Click START TEST With this setup I just got the following results: Load Time First Byte Start Render Requests Bytes First View 1.853s 0.199s 0.923s 43 440 KB Repeat View 0.956s 0.125s 0.471s 3 7 KB So, only 200ms to the first byte and 1.8s for entire page of 43 requests. This is twice as fast as before (unfortunately I lost results of previous tests). Also there are now all A and one X score: A First Byte Time A Keep-alive Enabled A Compress Transfer A Compress Images A Cache static X Content Delivery Network detected Another test is Google's PageSpeed from FireBug or Chrome (load PageSpeed addon first!), Pa</pre> Janko Mivšek 2013-02-16T14:38:37 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3324 <pre>Hi Janko: Very interesting news, I will try to find some time to check all the info. Please, let me know the changes in Swazoo/Aida, to be able of maintain the Cuis ports. </pre> Germán Arduino 2013-02-11T20:22:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3323 <pre>Dear Aiders, While watching an excellent presentation by Ilya Grigorik from Google Web Fast Team: Faster Websites, Crash Course on Frontent Performance part1: http://parleys.com/#st=5&amp;id=3648&amp;sl=0 part2: http://parleys.com/#st=5&amp;id=3649&amp;sl=1 I come to idea to implement few optimizations Ilya mentioned in his talk: 1. web page is now streamed to the browser to start sending as soon as possible so that browser can start fetching CSS and JS files listed in page header in parallel. Until now a whole page was first rendered before start sending. 2. gzip compression of page HTML and all other text resources like CSS and JavaScript. This reduces the load time substantially, usually about 5 times. End result is more than twice faster page load time, both time until page starts rendering on browser and overall load time. We are now below 250ms to the first byte time, which is nowadays a goal to regard your site as a fast one. Note that this includes a DNS lookup time (50-150ms), connection time</pre> Janko Mivšek 2013-02-05T17:20:58 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3322 <pre>Hi: All the cr &amp; lf &amp; extra lines are gone now. You can download the image again from the same url or install from scratch from GitHub. Germán. 2013/1/29 Germán Arduino &lt;garduino&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;: </pre> Germán Arduino 2013-01-30T14:23:54 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3321 <pre>Hi Hannes, I remember, but to be honest I use Mac or Lubuntu. Only very few times I use some Windows machine and really I do not have time to invest in Windows...... 2013/1/29 H. Hirzel &lt;hannes.hirzel&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;: </pre> Germán Arduino 2013-01-29T22:30:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3320 <pre>Hello Angel Lopez gave some links about CR/LF issues in Windows in connection with github, http://www.jvuletich.org/pipermail/cuis_jvuletich.org/2013-January/000620.html Kind regards Hannes On 1/29/13, Germán Arduino &lt;garduino&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list Aida&lt; at &gt;aidaweb.si http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida </pre> H. Hirzel 2013-01-29T22:02:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3319 <pre>Hi Robert: Yes, this is the problem of line feeds that seems to be hard to kill :) In my case, I'm having this behavior only in Windows. I not found yet the way that the GitHub windows client avoid this bad formatting when synching with my local repos. The solution is, as Juan explained, previous to install select all the code in the lower pane of the FileList (Get entire file if is a big file) and then: select all (cmd a) Convert line endings to LF characters (Cuis convention) in selection (cmd U) save (cmd s) and then install. HTH 2013/1/29 Robert Calco &lt;bobcalco&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;: </pre> Germán Arduino 2013-01-29T21:00:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3318 <pre>One minor issue -- on Windows, my Cuis+Aida image source for all the packages added for this port seem to have extra spaces between source code lines with paragraph symbol that appear at the end of each line as well in the System Browser. I have not seen that before and although it doesn't affect the behavior of anything it is unusual. Otherwise this is really great! Very exciting to see progress on this! - Bob On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Germán Arduino &lt;garduino&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: </pre> Robert Calco 2013-01-29T20:23:03 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3317 <pre>Hi Folks, It's a pleasure inform that AidaWeb is available to use in Cuis Smalltalk in the repo: https://github.com/garduino/Cuis-Aida Thanks to the job of Janko to make the port to make it work in Cuis! You can install it on a Cuis image using the script of the README (be patient, the installation take time) or you can download a ready to use Cog image from the link provided in the same README. Enjoy! Coming Soon: A Morphic operator console for easier manage of Swazoo sites. Juan: You should update the ListOfPackages, as usual :) </pre> Germán Arduino 2013-01-29T15:01:29 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3316 <pre>I will be working on the publishing all the stuff, the documentation and a ready to use image later today. 2013/1/29 Robert Calco &lt;bobcalco&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;: _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list Aida&lt; at &gt;aidaweb.si http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida </pre> Germán Arduino 2013-01-29T14:30:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3315 <pre>Where can we get it? On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Janko Mivšek &lt;janko.mivsek&lt; at &gt;eranova.si&gt;wrote: </pre> Robert Calco 2013-01-29T14:24:06 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3314 <pre>Damn, again I forgot to reply all, sorry :( ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Germán Arduino &lt;garduino&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; Date: 2013/1/29 Subject: Re: [Cuis] [aida] AidaWeb first early filen in Cuis a bit delayed To: Discussion of Cuis Smalltalk &lt;cuis&lt; at &gt;jvuletich.org&gt; Hi Janko: Excellent news! 2013/1/29 Janko Mivšek &lt;janko.mivsek&lt; at &gt;eranova.si&gt;: Yes, I received it! And seems to work (I would like to know the details about how some issues were solved). Yes, I did the initial filein from Aida6.5-interim.2 from the repo http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Aida/Aida/versions/Aida6.5-interim.2 Yes, we should agree a way to stay communicated to add the changes and new feature that will come to Aida. I can help, but will need a bit of help (guidance) depending on the changes. Regards. Germán. </pre> Germán Arduino 2013-01-29T12:08:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3313 <pre>Hi guys, Aida is now ported and works on Cuis! Germán I'm sending you the image back privately. BTW, which version of Aida is this? It seems it is not 6.5-interim? Can you port now the changes to this latest interim release? Well, this practice will be needed to maintain Aida anyway :) Best regards Janko Dne 24. 01. 2013 19:36, piše Germán Arduino: </pre> Janko Mivšek 2013-01-29T11:37:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3312 <pre>Hi Hannes, Dne 21. 01. 2013 16:12, piše H. Hirzel: I'm just upgrading download/install instructions. Thanks for notifying on really ancient Swazoo docs :( Best regards Janko </pre> Janko Mivšek 2013-01-27T19:18:38 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.server.aida/3311 <pre>Hi Germán, Very nice, thanks a lot! I'm currenlty ill but in few days I'll be back to continue your work. Best regards Janko Dne 24. 01. 2013 19:36, piše Germán Arduino: </pre> Janko Mivšek 2013-01-24T19:31:57 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.web.server.aida