http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101442 <pre>Hi Ed, The Green Dream is on a different timeframe; Newton stuff doesn't care about time like other tech stuff. Everyone is just glad you are back up. Thank you so much for your contribution. We couldn't do it without you. Merci Au revoir Laurent Bourrelly ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ==================================================================== </pre> Thick Parasite 2012-05-18T19:57:38 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101441 <pre>Hey Ed, I for one am just glad you are back up and working. Thanks for keeping that resource available. Rusty Nashville, TN -----Original Message----- From: newtontalk-bounces&lt; at &gt;newtontalk.net [mailto:newtontalk-bounces&lt; at &gt;newtontalk.net] On Behalf Of Ed Kummel Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:52 PM To: Newton Talk Subject: [NTLK] Just a little bit embarrassed... OK...I'm a little ashamed that it took me this long to get my site back up. A little explanation if you want...I run two ESXi servers at home. All my Newton stuff (web server, SQL server, Cold Fusion server) was sitting on one server. This ESXi server hosted other outward facing sites as well. The other server hosts my internal stuff...SharePoint, another website, IP Cam repository, plus another SQL server (to host my SharePoint site). This server is configured for internal connections only. This, along with strong firewall rules and separate networks keeps the traffid separate. I figured that instead of building a new SQL on my external ESXi server</pre> Rusty Miles 2012-05-18T13:49:28 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101440 <pre>OK...I'm a little ashamed that it took me this long to get my site back up. A little explanation if you want...I run two ESXi servers at home. All my Newton stuff (web server, SQL server, Cold Fusion server) was sitting on one server. This ESXi server hosted other outward facing sites as well. The other server hosts my internal stuff...SharePoint, another website, IP Cam repository, plus another SQL server (to host my SharePoint site). This server is configured for internal connections only. This, along with strong firewall rules and separate networks keeps the traffid separate. I figured that instead of building a new SQL on my external ESXi server, I'll just pop the database onto the SQL server on my internal ESXi server, make some security changes and all would be good... Nope, no such luck. I ran into so many problems due to my paranoid security techniques, it was darn-near impossible for me to get the internal SQL to see the external IIS server... Needless to say, multiple firewall changes, host file </pre> Ed Kummel 2012-05-17T23:52:07 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101439 <pre>Call the copyright police! Sent from my 2Pad… On May 15, 2012, at 15:43, Forrest &lt;newtonphoenix&lt; at &gt;mindspring.com&gt; wrote: ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================</pre> Laurence W Brown 2012-05-15T23:28:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101438 <pre>While going through today's Macworld newsletter, I opened a link (shown below) and--to my surprise--saw an old familiar friendly icon there on Time.com's "Techland" section, in the "Technologizer!" column by Harry McCracken. Look to the left of the word "Technologizer!" at the word balloon coming out of the smartphone (is that supposed to be an iPhone?). Is that--the Newton lightbulb icon? That's really very cool! http://techland.time.com/2012/05/14/digitimes-apple-rumors/ Thanks, --Forrest •Have iPad questions? I'm the Mesa (AZ) iPad Examiner...see what I write about at http://exm.nr/HYeN8K+ •Twitter: &lt; at &gt;FBuffenmyer ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ===============================================================</pre> Forrest 2012-05-15T22:43:23 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101437 <pre> On 2012-05-07, at 7:01 PM, Stefan Thorsteinson wrote: No worries. Broadcast away! It's well within the guidelines. g. ...................................................................... Grant Hutchinson Interface Considerations. Feature Deprecation. Typography. Rawk. http://splorp.com http://flickr.com/splorp http://github.com/splorp http://twitter.com/splorp ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ==================================================================== </pre> Grant Hutchinson 2012-05-12T21:03:26 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101436 <pre>Christian I hope that the reason you are hanging around a hospital is not serious. In the situation you are in I would likewise be very cautious about making changes. This prompts me to open a discussion of what might be best practices as recalled by a long time reader of this list, and one who has lost data. I hope others will chime in as my non-expertise is revealed. 1. Heap is your system memory and is where tasks get done. Both Dashboard and Avi's backdrop report available heap. I freeze Packages and Extensions that I'm not using to keep this as high as possible especially if I'm saving a Newton book as an HTML Works file or using NewtsCape to create a Newton book. All installed packages including extensions are using heap unless frozen. 2. Keep some percentage of memory stores empty, I attempt to not exceed 75% of capacity of my internal and primary card. I use a secondary card for large tasks that may cause a freeze up or system reset due to not enough heap. 3. I ke</pre> Smith Woody 2012-05-12T05:21:59 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101435 <pre>Gotta agree with Simon--make room however you can on the Newt by copying internal data to storage card. Unfortunately I can't think of any solution that doesn't ultimately involve backing up both internal and storage memory, brain wiping the Newton and formatting the storage card, and restoring both from the backup(s).There's still no guarantee of success, but it seems like it should work. Thanks, --Forrest Sent from my AT&amp;T iPhone 4 On May 11, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Simon Bell &lt;simonbell&lt; at &gt;me.com&gt; wrote: ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ==================================================================== </pre> Forrest 2012-05-12T03:23:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101434 <pre> So it’s a storage (= disk) problem, not to do with the heap (= RAM). Let’s park that out of the way. Those numbers looks right; the internal capacity of a MP2100 is 3,523K. Nothing has disappeared into a black hole. I’m wondering though -- and this may be a good time to sit down if you aren’t already -- whether bad flash blocks that are mapped out of the available space count as ‘used’ (rather than reducing the store’s capacity). I don’t have experience (fortunately) of the characteristics of store failure, someone with hardware knowledge would better help here. Sorry to drop this bombshell, but it might cause an unexpected sudden loss of available space, no? I can’t think of a tool that would itemise what’s using that ‘used’ space; does one exist? If you File items in Storage onto a different store, you are operating on the soup entries on the store, not the store as a whole. The entries are moved: they are copied from the source store to the target and then deleted from the s</pre> Simon Bell 2012-05-11T19:26:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101433 <pre>BIG thanks to everyone who's written to me about this here or directly. It feels better even if Newt is still sulking at me. :-) I should've given more helpful information about my Newt in my first e-mail but I'm spending a lot of time hanging around a hospital -- no phone, no computers, no outside world please -- and I produced that first message in haste. Unfortunately obligations here aren't even giving me time to make soothing, cooing noises at Newt in the hope of wooing her back into more co-operative mood. In response to suggestions and questions so far, let me explain and clarify some things I should have included before. I also have more questions! Sorry, this'll be long, but I've tried to space it to be easy on the eyes. The fundamental data, the numbers: Memory Info reports Internal used: 3374K free: 149K Card used: 4438K free: 15105K Incidentally, I tried the soft reset (button at the back for 4 seconds) as soon as it happened. No change. 1. Forrest, I currently make</pre> Lord Groundhog 2012-05-11T16:46:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101432 <pre> I can’t offer a solution to your missing store space, Christian, but at the mention of MailV I felt compelled to jump in. I believe there is a problem with the Newton OS store system. There, I have said it. Specifically, if you allocate a Virtual Binary Object (VBO) and subsequently resize it so it becomes smaller, the difference in size is not reclaimed by the OS. There are no pointers to this lost space and it is unrecoverable; a reformat of the memory is required to regain it. The problem shows up in MailV because allocating and resizing VBOs is what MailV does all the time. I can’t believe MailV is the ONLY app to do this, but I have no data for other apps. If you haven’t changed the way you work, and available memory has been in line with your expectations over time, then I doubt the this is the cause of a sudden drop in free store space. I would try Tony’s and Woody’s suggestions - and don’t worry, it’ll be fine! Simon ==========================================================</pre> Simon Bell 2012-05-11T09:10:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101431 <pre>Christian: I believe your misfortune could be at least partially caused by the dreaded Mail V Memory Leak (assuming you use Mail V). Take a look at this: http://lists.newtontalk.net/pipermail/newtontalk/2011-February/005532.html Contents thereof: "On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Open Slate Project &lt;osp at aloha.com&gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; Ah yes, the mailv memory leak, I remember it. I would have to look back at my notes for the precise solution, basic idea is to use two memory cards, configure mailv to save to card, and from time to time wipe the mp to recover memory. Scarry the first time but not that bad, a lingering annoyance. &gt; -- &gt; &gt; DouglasMcComber &lt;mccomber at eastlink.ca&gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; Hi, I'm new to NOS and I've got Mail V running successfully (I'm getting this list with it). The problem is, even though I am deleting email after I've read it, I am running out of storage (eMate 300, not external storage card) as if I didn't delete them. I've checked "All Items" to be sure and there i</pre> Forrest 2012-05-11T04:12:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101430 <pre>You should be able to restart with stylus pressure at edge of display and choose not to load internal applications. Do Backup to card. I have found that netscape cache can use a lot of room. Is it a heap issue? Good luck Woody On May 10, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Lord Groundhog wrote: ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ==================================================================== </pre> Smith Woody 2012-05-10T22:25:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101429 <pre>Bear with me if you have already tried some of these ideas: * Reboot * If reboot works, when you get bk to base: try SBM Utilities; terrific for checking for errors and sometimes it can repair soups. * If reboot works, try moving soups to your card and see what happens; I know that some apps require their soup to be stored internally but all you want to do is free up some space so that you can get going again. But it won't identify what the trouble is. This is what comes immediately to mind, I'm sure others will chime in with potential fixes Cheers Tony Kan Christchurch New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: newtontalk-bounces&lt; at &gt;newtontalk.net [mailto:newtontalk-bounces&lt; at &gt;newtontalk.net] On Behalf Of Lord Groundhog Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 9:22 a.m. To: newtontalk&lt; at &gt;newtontalk.net Subject: [NTLK] MP2100 error message -- internal memory full?? If anyone can help with this I¹d be grateful. [snip] ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - h</pre> Tony Kan 2012-05-10T22:24:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101428 <pre>If anyone can help with this I¹d be grateful. I¹m away from home for an extended time due to an emergency. The worse news is that Newt has chosen NOW to have a problem. I have a MP2100. When I try to do something with Newt I get an error message telling me that either my internal memory or mydata storage card is almost full. It shouldn¹t be the data card because there¹s still about 15MB free on it, but the internal store shows only 152KB is still free. I didn¹t see this coming. Let¹s see if I can give some useful preliminary information. I can¹t find any sign of what is taking up all that space all of a sudden so I don¹t know what to do about it. I¹ve looked at all my soups and nothing shows anything like enough to take up serious space. When I add up the numbers I don¹t get even quarter-way to the amount of space that¹s supposed to be used up. I have no idea how to check what kind of space is used by applications but this hasn¹t changed in the last few years so I don¹t know why i</pre> Lord Groundhog 2012-05-10T21:21:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101427 <pre>Hello, I'm looking for a PalmTree, flip-top style case for a Messagepad 1x0. Here's a pic: http://picturepush.com/public/8145616 Please let me know your asking price, shipped, for the case. Shipping will be to zip 95132 (CA, SF Bay Area/San Jose). Despite repeated pleadings, my mailman continues to handle my mail as though it's some sort of personal affront, so I need this shipped in a cardboard box, please. In fact, the Small Flat Rate Priority Mail box (the one about the size of an old VHS cassette) would be perfect for this. Of course, if you want to ship the case to me Parcel Post (or FedEx Ground) that's fine, too, just so long as it's shipped in a cardboard box. I can pay via PayPal or (im)personal check, seeing as how PayPal is anathema to some folks. If you take Paypal, please be sure to tell me if you have the ability to accept both balance transfer and credit card-funded payments, or only the former. If you prefer a check, I understand that the check will need to clear before </pre> James Fraser 2012-05-09T15:42:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101426 <pre>Hello, In the interests of preventing something like this from happening to another Newton user, can anyone who travels extensively recommend a compact-yet-effective "international" surge suppressor? While I think of it, nothing ever came of this: http://marc.info/?l=newtontalk&amp;m=132049303127057&amp;w=2 ..did it? Best, James Fraser ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ==================================================================== </pre> James Fraser 2012-05-09T12:41:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101425 <pre> On 08.05.2012, at 03:44, rodlavo&lt; at &gt;gmail.com wrote: With a handheld as a hobby, that has not seen any manufacturers support for 15 years, three weeks go by like a gentle breeze. Don't worry. Aren't children wonderful? I have two bundles of unlimited joy myself who are starting to use our machines just now. Hooray - I guess. - Matthias ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ==================================================================== </pre> Matthias Melcher 2012-05-08T10:31:24 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101424 <pre>Cheers Stefan! I'm sure we all understand what a big job you have undertaken, but i guess a few got a bit worried hearing nothing for three last few weeks. Thank you for responding and clearing up any issues :) Kind regards Rod On 8/05/12 9:01 AM Stefan Thorsteinson wrote: Hello, I'm sure most everyone here can attest to how much they despise how life can get in the way sometimes. Grant, apologies for using the list in this manner. I need to broadcast a message to those waiting to hear from me. I've been silent but not gone. I've just returned from an unexpected 3 week stint in the black hole of communication in rural Alberta. I arrived home to discover one of my children gained access to my PC and managed to delete my PST file. $40.00 dollars later and some serious blue air...I was able to restore it. Neither one will admit being the culprit for fear of my wrath. I guess they'll both feel it. Not to mention SHE WHO SHALL BE OBEYED because without her, they would not have gained access to the PC </pre> rodlavo< at >gmail.com 2012-05-08T01:44:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101423 <pre>Hello, I'm sure most everyone here can attest to how much they despise how life can get in the way sometimes. Grant, apologies for using the list in this manner. I need to broadcast a message to those waiting to hear from me. I've been silent but not gone. I've just returned from an unexpected 3 week stint in the black hole of communication in rural Alberta. I arrived home to discover one of my children gained access to my PC and managed to delete my PST file. $40.00 dollars later and some serious blue air...I was able to restore it. Neither one will admit being the culprit for fear of my wrath. I guess they'll both feel it. Not to mention SHE WHO SHALL BE OBEYED because without her, they would not have gained access to the PC in the first place. Sheesh! OK, so I'm back online and piecing things back together. Do NOT fear! I have everyone's requests. I just haven't been able to respond directly. If you received my broadcast email back in April I think I mentioned that everyone should be seeing what they </pre> Stefan Thorsteinson 2012-05-08T01:01:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk/101422 <pre>John accidentally fried his Newton by plugging it into an allegedly-safe 220 V outlet, which possibly was powered by "dirty" AC current. Through the advice of various folks on NTLK he has replaced the damaged capacitor, but it still won't power up. Sent from my First Generation iPad On May 6, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Grant Hutchinson &lt;grant&lt; at &gt;splorp.com&gt; wrote: ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ==================================================================== </pre> Forrest Buffenmyer 2012-05-07T05:59:09 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.systems.newton.newtontalk