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Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

2013-04-30T23:08:21

Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on the world’s biggest 
bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP  http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 
organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia from University of Georgia, USA.


We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper with a modified title) to 
WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that 
paper include: 

(1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa
(2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic
(3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance
(4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model 
(5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer
(6). Laptop is an example for a super computer
(7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware


Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning.  However, it was accepted both the times 
without any modifications (and without any r

Re: Disable timelines by default?

Alexandre Vassalotti — 2013-04-17T23:55:26


I like that feature though I wouldn't mind too much if it went below the
fold as an optional feature. Anyhow, I opened issue
17785<http://bugs.python.org/issue17785> to
change the shortener to a faster service, which should make the feature
less annoying to people who don't use it.
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Re: Disable timelines by default?

Alex Gaynor — 2013-04-17T19:41:43

Sounds reasonable to me, I don't htink I've ever used that feature.

Alex


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis-xNDA5Wrcr86sTnJN9+BGXg< at >public.gmane.org>wrote:

Disable timelines by default?

Antoine Pitrou — 2013-04-17T19:40:23

Hello,

I get routinely annoyed by the "timelines" feature of perf.py. At best,
it makes benchmarking slower because it requests a short URL for each
benchmark. At worse, it can crash the benchmark suite when the Web
service fails to respond. Could we disable the timelines by default?

Regards

Antoine.

Django 1.5 now in the benchmark suite

Brett Cannon — 2013-03-25T22:00:25

Named django_v2. Another benchmark that runs on Python 2 & 3!

BCC'ing python-checkins because the commit was so large that the
post-commit hook rejected sending an email about it.
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Re: What PyPy benchmarks are (un)important?

Miquel Torres — 2012-09-13T12:04:29

We could easily add the newer benchmarks to the front page, easy to do
for the first plot. But the historical plot depends on there being
data across all versions, so *that* geometric average would need to be
done on the common set of 20 benchmarks for all PyPy versions, which
means it will be different from the first average.

Alternatively, we can drop the older PyPy versions and start with the
oldest one that has data for the full set of benchmarks.

Any other ideas?

Miquel


2012/9/13 Maciej Fijalkowski <fijall-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>:

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Maciej Fijalkowski — 2012-10-21T12:24:27

I'm sorry, my mail was definitely too harsh.

For what is worth, there are python 3 benchmarks now. Maybe we should
somehow restart it?

Cheers,
fijal

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Carsten Senger — 2012-10-21T12:06:59


Am 21.10.2012 11:08, schrieb Maciej Fijalkowski:


I know I cared. It worked with my patches that where merged by you. They
removed the hard coded configuration from the build factories and the
runner. I stopped then cause nobody was interested to collect data for
2.7 which would not receive notable changes. Same applied to historical
data for python 2. Pointless describes that very well, but for different
reasons.

There where no python 3 benchmarks and the how and when seemed more like
a political discussion to me.


..Carsten

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Maciej Fijalkowski — 2012-10-21T09:08:43

FYI the running on python 2 never worked (because of option passing).
It roughly shows up how people care (or how much they know). I suppose
we can declare "running benchmarks on python 2" a completely pointless
exercise.

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Carsten Senger — 2012-10-20T11:21:20

Am 19.10.2012 21:38, schrieb Miquel Torres:

Some month ago I worked on the benchmark runner and the build slave
helpers in the pypy repository. They can run the test suite for both
pypy and cpython. It will need no or minor tweeks to use python3. What
was missing back then, and IIRC planned to be discussed at PyCo, was the
port of the benchmarks to python 3.

Now it can be set up on speed.p.o (with minor adjustments if necessary).
I'd do work on that too.

..Carsten

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Miquel Torres — 2012-10-20T10:32:47

Maciej: Last year, as the project begun, I immediately set up an
instance. We removed it from port 80 because nothing was ready yet,
but it has been there since:
http://speed.python.org:8080/

As soon as there is data somewhere I can upgrade and setup the
Codespeed version properly.


2012/10/20 Maciej Fijalkowski <fijall-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>:

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Maciej Fijalkowski — 2012-10-20T08:47:21

Log in, setup a buildbot, make sure it's connected to the python
buildmaster and it's running. Before that go to Noah and ask for an
account. Then set up a codespeed instance somewhere (not sure where)
and connect the two together.

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Nick Coghlan — 2012-10-20T01:51:19

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Andrew Svetlov
<andrew.svetlov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

The issue tracker for the project is now on the PSF's BitBucket org
account: https://bitbucket.org/PSF/python-speed/issues?status=new&status=open

It would be great if people could update those issues to indicate what
they're working on - I just sent a bunch of invitations to make sure
respondents to this thread have appropriate access.

Cheers,
Nick.

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Andrew Svetlov — 2012-10-19T22:25:57

I like to be a volunteer.
What shall I do? Is there some roadmap for this project?

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Brett Cannon <brett-+ZN9ApsXKcEdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Brett Cannon — 2012-10-19T22:08:40

And how specifically is that a blocker so we can work on eliminating those
issues?

-Brett


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Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Miquel Torres — 2012-10-19T19:38:22

Right. On the webapp (Codespeed) side of things I am willing to help
in anything you need.
The blocker has been mostly the benchmark runner, AFAIK.

Miquel


2012/10/19 Maciej Fijalkowski <fijall-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>:

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Maciej Fijalkowski — 2012-10-19T14:00:24

Ok, to be precise "noone cares enough to make things happen", this is
a fact. I actually care to some extend and I'm willing to help with
stuff, however, there must be someone who cares more on the python
core development team to make the exercise not-completely-pointless.

Cheers,
fijal

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Jesse Noller — 2012-10-19T10:46:24


On Oct 19, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski <fijall-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:


Hi. I care. Other people do too. Maybe you don't - that's ok. The problem is lack of time / project planning.

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Maciej Fijalkowski — 2012-10-19T10:25:51

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Victor Stinner
<victor.stinner-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Hi Victor.

The status is "noone cares". Brett ported a bunch of py3k benchmarks,
so I suppose this is a very good start. Someone has to add a
buildslave there (preferably for cpython buildbots) that runs
runner.py from US and uploads the info to codespeed.

Codespeed can be also set up somewhere (I did, it's not the end of the world).

Cheers,
fijal

Re: Status of speed.python.org?

Mark Rees — 2012-10-18T22:26:41

Hi Victor,

Brett Cannon has been porting many of the benchmarks the pypy team uses to
Python 3 for the "standard" benchmark suite. During PyConAU 2012 coding
sprints I did some work on using codespeed (
https://github.com/tobami/codespeed) to work with this benchmark suite so
the speed.python.org could use it to display benchmarks. Due to some health
issues anda heavy workload, I haven't been able to put this up for people
to review. Thankfully both these impediments look like they are almost
resolved so hope to get back to it very soon. We would appreciate any help
you would want to give.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Victor Stinner <victor.stinner-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>wrote:

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Status of speed.python.org?

Victor Stinner — 2012-10-18T20:40:44

Hi,

What is the status of speed.python.org? Where are the benchmarks? Does
anyone try to setup something to run regulary benchmarks and display
data on web pages?

How can I help?

Victor