http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96828 629 is a very low number, far lower than the default recursion limit of 1000. Please open a bug for the problem. Unless this can be set in the configure script for all affected architectures, I'm not sure this is ok. Regards Antoine. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Antoine Pitrou 2008-08-21T17:16:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96827 Thank you for the hint: it works. :) Cesare In data 21 agosto 2008 alle ore 17:34:56, Curt Hagenlocher <curt< at >hagenlocher.org> ha scritto: Cesare Di Mauro 2008-08-21T16:21:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96826 On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Cesare Di Mauro <cesare.dimauro< at >a-tono.com> wrote: The most likely explanation for this is that _tkinter.pyd has a static dependency that can't be loaded. If, for instance, the TCL and TK DLLs themselves are neither in PCbuild nor elsewhere in the path, then you wouldn't be able to load _tkinter. -- Curt Hagenlocher curt< at >hagenlocher.org _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Curt Hagenlocher 2008-08-21T15:34:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96825 I've downloaded the Python 2.6b3 source, exported with svn all external packages as stated in PCBuild/Readme.txt, edited external.bat removing DEBUG=1, ran external.bat to get tcl/tk compiled, set "Release" on Visual C++ Express Edition 2008, and everything seemed to be worked out fine (on Vista Ultimate x64), but running python (both from VSC++ or by command prompt) and trying to import Tkinter I've got this: Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> File "c:\tmp\Python-2.6b3\lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py", line 38, in <module> import FixTk File "c:\tmp\Python-2.6b3\lib\lib-tk\FixTk.py", line 28, in <module> import _tkinter ImportError: DLL load failed: Impossibile trovare il modulo specificato. It seems that its impossible to find the _tkinter module, but in PCbuild I've found these files: 21/08/2008 10.35 636 _tkinter.exp 21/08/2008 10.35 1.732 _tkinter.lib 21/08/2008 10.35 338.944 _tkinter.pdb 21/08/2008 10.35 34.304 Cesare Di Mauro 2008-08-21T14:09:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96824 And this release, the special award for making it possible goes to Antoine Pitrou for quick and accurate work on the memoryview implementation. [Resounding Applause] On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry< at >python.org> wrote: Benjamin Peterson 2008-08-21T13:33:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96823 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks Mark. If we can't get bsddb3 running cleanly, we'll have to add an item to the release notes about it. - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSK1fgHEjvBPtnXfVAQLu2wP8D5dBf6wAeGgOgK49FPDhN+5hvcrlp4KT pMJTD161e21+XdgzY0pohWWPXiUnpUuJduuUTpVOfbi73kpDJakExDWqL7T3D4T+ CtNPxnoTZlv/AkrYwQfc0qKdWGn82uAiH8j6C6xMqtxNMgWCHjhD1z9w1eOssLRt +r9MfRCLRqs= =XXlj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Barry Warsaw 2008-08-21T12:28:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96822 FWIW, I can't reproduce most of those problems. My 32bit build sees: 303 tests OK. 57 tests skipped: test__locale test_aepack test_al test_applesingle test_bsddb185 test_bsddb3 test_cd test_cl test_codecmaps_cn test_codecmaps_hk test_codecmaps_jp test_codecmaps_kr test_codecmaps_tw test_commands test_crypt test_curses test_dbm test_dl test_epoll test_fcntl test_fork1 test_gdbm test_gl test_grp test_imageop test_imgfile test_ioctl test_kqueue test_largefile test_linuxaudiodev test_macos test_macostools test_mhlib test_nis test_normalization test_openpty test_ossaudiodev test_pipes test_poll test_posix test_pty test_pwd test_py3kwarn test_resource test_scriptpackages test_signal test_socketserver test_ssl test_sunaudiodev test_tcl test_threadsignals test_timeout test_urllib2net test_urllibnet test_wait3 test_wait4 test_zipfile64 2 skips unexpected on win32: test_tcl test_ssl and once I made the changes I just uploaded to http://bugs.python.org/issue36 Mark Hammond 2008-08-21T03:32:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96821 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I am happy to announce the third and last planned beta releases of Python 2.6 and Python 3.0. Please note that these are beta releases, and as such are not suitable for production environments. We continue to strive for a high degree of quality, and these releases are intended to freeze the feature set for Python 2.6 and 3.0. As these are the last planned beta releases, we strongly urge you to download these releases and test them against your code. Once we reach release candidates (currently planned for 03-Sep-2008), only highly critical bugs will be fixed before the final release. If you find things broken or incorrect, please submit bug reports at http://bugs.python.org For more information and downloadable distributions, see the Python 2.6 website: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6/ and the Python 3.0 web site: http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.0/ Barry Warsaw 2008-08-21T03:17:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96820 While looking at 2.6 for Windows, I've found a recursion related crash in test_cpickle on 64bit builds. Specifically, the 'cPickleDeepRecursive' is causing a stack overflow, and the debugger tells me the actual recursion depth was 629 at the crash. The reason the 64bit build doesn't see more crashes is apparently due to another regression in 2.6 - http://bugs.python.org/issue3373. It appears that in some cases, the recursion counter is actually incremented *twice* for each entry, thereby causing the "maximum recursion depth exceeded" exception to appear at a true recusion limit of 500. However, test_cpickle takes a different path and doesn't see this doubling of the count - therefore dieing at the depth of 629 that I can see. My solution to this was to simply double the stack size for the executables in 64bit builds, from 2MB to 4MB (2.1 and 4.2 for debug builds.) Is this an appropriate fix? Cheers, Mark _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org Mark Hammond 2008-08-21T02:37:43 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96819 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Can anybody verify and hopefully fix the problems seen in the Windows bots for the trunk (i.e. 2.6)? http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/stable/ 3.0 doesn't look too bad, and I'm going to release beta 3 anyway, but I hope we can get the 2.6 Windows buildbots looking green after the beta. These will definitely block the release candidates. Thanks, - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIrLXw2YZpQepbvXERAkn7AJwNNoq+ApgeP/j8TyPL4x71SPju5QCePzdw KC5QXa1Tk72OSTmQIelU2hs= =zYog -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Barry Warsaw 2008-08-21T00:25:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96818 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pending a resolution of bug 3611 (which has an attached patch that we're testing now), I plan on releasing 2.6 and 3.0 beta 3 tonight. Please do not make any commits to the trees unless you ask me first, until further notice. I am on #python-dev if you need an immediate decision. Thanks. - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKyecnEjvBPtnXfVAQJ4DgQAg7hNzp76nUT8/dA4C2xTqwL+mmtXeu2s MLbez1xVk3IoU3J/GRRcposaUQKoPToophndj1yk57v/g/AtrXIAjFRXkqH7giU5 eD7WltOt3Ch/f6ZBkT9eHttq9uaQB35kKcCPNUSL81C24xn8z7JS08KG+6bgx1hE g0tYCMAj7Wk= =tomA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Barry Warsaw 2008-08-20T22:45:06 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96817 This is complete on 2.6 as of r65864 _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Jesse Noller 2008-08-19T21:06:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96816 Submitted the patch to 2.5 and 2.6. Guido van Rossum 2008-08-19T21:03:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96815 Bill is correct - using /usr/bin/python does install packages to /Library/... - this is sort of the right place because it still installs it to a "system path", where it can side-effect other users, but it is a "mostly correct" way for Apple framework installs. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Jesse Noller 2008-08-19T20:44:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96814 _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Jack Jansen 2008-08-19T20:36:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96812 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: Nope. - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKsZd3EjvBPtnXfVAQLGRAQAhVwJLkwi/+ZlW7x53sKyyMEf+pJj7UTK l0MjS/JFXlDmW5uBg9VnKbSrdMnbQPwHIhA1Xl20Pz3qV4mPTdrD6+pVuwyBQJj6 rakN6wtjvYMq3S3cDIZIabbaqx05XT5+mqWA+2fIc7/mzHboORtJmfAlE/Tjr4/P TR7TgSqryzQ= =TCYz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Barry Warsaw 2008-08-19T19:05:26 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96811 Right; just have a simple wrapper in test.test_support that had a different default. I will get to this when I can, although I am sure Barry won't be too upset if this misses b3. -Brett _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Brett Cannon 2008-08-19T18:31:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96810 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: It probably affects OS X and Windows less than Linux distros like Gentoo or Ubuntu because the former don't heavily rely on the system python for their basic operation. You can pretty royally screw up the latter if your Python environment isn't just right. I think it's a /good/ thing that some OS distros are heavily invested in Python for their core operation. We just need to understand the best practices when they are. - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKsGoHEjvBPtnXfVAQLvoQP+K4DPZ2XyBZIR6IY9Tnf2c8hUm7+MNaVh o6J0qLDm7XFVtQw6OhWd6zzRMLswFV86yojGvXb/rM8dwF8zIjrw4HZguIBxSIq8 e88zSNr713lTN/ds394bPkTC323+7QJEA/JOYNztAw2SUlvP7r1o67RDVptxlSvq vrtb3VNl+7A= =U4jT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.py Barry Warsaw 2008-08-19T17:45:04 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96809 I find this discussion fascinating. I install new packages into my system Python all the time, with "/usr/bin/python setup.py install", and that includes setuptools. I've got PIL, ReportLab, Twisted, Xlib, appscript, docutils, email-4.0.1, fuse, PyLucene, medusa, mutagen, roman, setuptools, and SSL installed in the Leopard machine I'm writing from. They don't wind up in /System/Library/.../site-packages/, they wind up in /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/, which is sort of the right place, from an Apple point of view. I do this on lots of Macs -- I've got a regular posse of them at work. And I've never had any problems with it. I agree that there are some things I'd be very wary of installing into the system Python, like PyObjC, and Zope. Usually, I don't install anything which appears to already be there. Bill _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/op Bill Janssen 2008-08-19T17:28:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96808 Works for me. Guido van Rossum 2008-08-19T17:25:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/96807 _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev< at >python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org Matt Giuca 2008-08-19T17:17:37 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.python.devel