gmane.comp.misc.novell

RE: hello

Randy Grein — 2013-02-14T15:33:20

Funny, I seem to receive more care and feeding now than when we WERE a novell shop. Still have Zen at least, and it looks like we'll probably keep it. Of course, living a few miles from Microsoft we got a hard sell about the 'advantages' of the local company - none ever panned out, but by the time it was obvious the commitment was made. I've done more migrations for customers than I care to remember, and while they turned out well it seems business can't understand opportunity costs and IT can't understand performing a valid comparison. But then, IT is fundamentally a business function, and business logic is an oxymoron that always cracks me up. 

These days we seem to be fighting against being consumed by the Apple machine, and I can't see why we need to fight it. Users appear much happier, better practical security, etc. The only downside I can see is that neither IOS nor OS X require as much care and feeding than windows.....



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Re: hello

Thys de Beer — 2013-02-14T14:27:22

HI,
 
Ya well Bud, i must agree somehow... we are a 13 000 user shop and at
times we also feel forgotten .. we are also FAR away from our closets SA
novel branch, i think there are actually only 3 in the country ..
partners are all alo based in and around the Novell offices .. training
same story, but must say the same issues on the M$ .. althought for a
while now they are on our doorstep trying to get in .. luckily the
Novell stuff been solid over the years.... not 100%  but good enough to
make some people keepong the dark side at a distance....BUT as always it
is a battle of note ... and HERE IS THE thing, i am about alone in my
quest, ssupporting the backend for the 13000 users....try to sort out
vibe and learn this on your own, between your normal work... not easy
sometimes i caught myself thinking if we were a M$ shop we would be 40
guys and i can relax ... and ask other support guys what is going
on...NOW EVERYTHING is on me alone ... things you would do for your love
on Novell ..


Kind Regards,
Thys

Re: hello

Bud Durland — 2013-02-14T13:59:04

Therein lies the problem for us.  We are a simple manufacuturer of 
plastic caps and jars, under 200 users, located about 100 miles from the 
nearest "big" city. Novell started ignoring us (as in "this type of 
account") about 8 years ago.  My last two contacts with Novell were 
fairly aggressive e-mails from them demanding that I run their audit 
software to prove that I had sufficient licensing.

Training?  Forget about it. I have to travel 400 miles to get to the 
nearest training center.  None of the local computer support companies 
offer Novell support of any kind.


      Bud Durland

Director of Information Technology
1 Plant St. Plattsburgh, NY 12901
Direct: 518.324.4850 Cell: 518.726.0967

<http://www.linkedin.com/company/weatherchem-corporation> 
<https://www.twitter.com/weatherchem> 
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Mold-Rite Plastics. Innovative. Reliable. Responsive.

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Re: hello

Thys de Beer — 2013-02-14T13:49:21

hi.. my comment "died" because of beloved netware not Novel ..meaning
netware is dead..but by far not Novell, we are a 13000 user strong
Novell/NetIQ shop..edir/groupwise/NAM/ZCM .. hopefully vibe some day
soon.... if i can jsut get thing right...


Kind Regards,
Thys de Beer
082 456 1891
018 388 3828
http://www.waytag.com/ThysdeBeer
DataTech
Systems Administration Manager
Novell -- CNE
MS -- MCITP- Enterprise Administrator
MS -- MCSE- Private Cloud
Vmware -- VCP5
 
 
 
 


Yip,

i believe this list "died" because of beloved netware not Novell ...
which of course is incredible sad!!!


Kind Regards,
Thys de Beer
082 456 1891
018 388 3828
http://www.waytag.com/ThysdeBeer
DataTech
Systems Administration Manager
Novell -- CNE
MS -- MCITP- Enterprise Administrator
MS -- MCSE- Private Cloud
Vmware -- VCP5






On 13/02/2013 22:25, KUENY Serge wrote:


I suspect those that need help are (hopefully) using the various 
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ support forums as they're more active and officially

monitored by Knowledge Pa

Re: hello

Tim Heywood — 2013-02-14T13:48:33

Well drop box is a stand alone file system that you can share with anyone (and with their security model probable everybody...)
 
Filr is the same concept with your corp files store (ie normal mapped drives or whatever) that is now available to your mobile users on PCs/Laptops/MAC/iP*** and Andriods items, that you can also invite external users to partake in the fun...
 
So, yes, DropBox with a handful of amphetamines and some security  - plus the mapped drive part (which is unique)
 
HTH
 
-----------------------------
Tim Heywood
Novell Support Forum NKP (SysOp)
 
NDS8
SuSE, Novell & NetIQ Platinum Solution Provider
VMware Enterprise Partner
Virtual Bridges Strategic Partner
Citrix Silver Partner
 
Office: +44 (0) 131 538 8202
Fax: +44 (0) 131 453 6522
Mobile: +44 (0) 7974 134264
 
www.nds8.co.uk


Am I missing something, or is this just on-premise DropBox?


  Bud Durland

Director of Information Technology
1 Plant St. Plattsburgh, NY 12901
Direct: 518.324.4850 Cell: 518.726.0967

<http://www.linkedin.

Re: hello

Thys de Beer — 2013-02-14T13:46:22

HI,
 
Yip me to, i am running sles on my servers .. on the desktop i am still
jumping around between suse, ubuntu, mint .... cant' wait for the latest
ubuntu (70days), then i will have to make the decision and stick with
it........ it is just sad that Novell promotes opensource  BUT to get
their desktop applications to run on linux desktops is a mess .. SLED
about the only one working out of the box .. but there are some
limitations on that as well .. anyway sounds like the suse guys not
really interested to make any commitment on that ...


Kind Regards,
Thys de Beer
082 456 1891
018 388 3828
http://www.waytag.com/ThysdeBeer
DataTech
Systems Administration Manager
Novell -- CNE
MS -- MCITP- Enterprise Administrator
MS -- MCSE- Private Cloud
Vmware -- VCP5
 
 
 
 


Look I loved Netware in its day it was the best OS on the planet.
Times
have changed and I think it became clear that the cost to rewrite
Netware
as a 64 bit OS would be more than anyone would pay. It also became
very
expensive to hire people to

Re: hello

Steven Tharp — 2013-02-14T13:46:24

A  drop-box for business that allows for web based file access and the
sharing of files inside and outside the company based on rules.

Steven Tharp
Novell Server Manager
(616) 732 1102 - Work
(616) 706-1876 - Cell
steven.tharp< at >davenport.edu email




On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Bud Durland <bud< at >mrpcap.com> wrote:

Re: hello

Bud Durland — 2013-02-14T13:41:51

Am I missing something, or is this just on-premise DropBox?


      Bud Durland

Director of Information Technology
1 Plant St. Plattsburgh, NY 12901
Direct: 518.324.4850 Cell: 518.726.0967

<http://www.linkedin.com/company/weatherchem-corporation> 
<https://www.twitter.com/weatherchem> 
<http://www.youtube.com/user/wreichheld>
Mold-Rite Plastics. Innovative. Reliable. Responsive.

MoldritePlastics.com <http://www.mrpcap.com.com> | WheatherChem.com 
<http://www.wheatherchem.com> | Stulltech.com <http://www.stulltech.com>

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Re: hello

Steven Tharp — 2013-02-14T13:35:23

Look I loved Netware in its day it was the best OS on the planet. Times
have changed and I think it became clear that the cost to rewrite Netware
as a 64 bit OS would be more than anyone would pay. It also became very
expensive to hire people to write drivers for an OS that no longer had a
future so the idea that it can be run virtual solves the issues with
drivers. I worked on Netware 2 and still loved those days but I have moved
on and now use Suse as my OS of choice.


Steven Tharp
Novell Server Manager
(616) 732 1102 - Work
(616) 706-1876 - Cell
steven.tharp< at >davenport.edu email




On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Thys de Beer <thys< at >nwpg.gov.za> wrote:

RE: hello

Joop van Buuren — 2013-02-14T13:10:04

Thys and others,

We are fully 'MAD' today or in other words Micro$oft Active Directory.

If you want to see Netware in action again, fire up VMware server free edition on your pc and install Netware.

Is it still supported by the way ?

Joop van Buuren
Senior System & Networkadministrator
Gemeente Etten-Leur
Roosendaalseweg 4
4875 AA ETTEN-LEUR
Phone: +31 76 - 5024382
CellPhone: +31 6 15075508
mailto:Joop.vanBuuren< at >etten-leur.nl

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Onderwerp: Re: hello

Yip,

i believe this list "died" because of beloved netware not Novell ...
which of course is incredible sad!!!


Kind Regards,
Thys de Beer
082 456 1891
018 388 3828
http://www.waytag.com/ThysdeBeer
DataTech
Systems Administration Manager
Novell -- CNE
MS -- MCITP- Enterprise Administrator
MS -- MCSE- Private

Re: hello

Thys de Beer — 2013-02-14T13:05:10

Yip,
 
i believe this list "died" because of beloved netware not Novell ...
which of course is incredible sad!!!


Kind Regards,
Thys de Beer
082 456 1891
018 388 3828
http://www.waytag.com/ThysdeBeer
DataTech
Systems Administration Manager
Novell -- CNE
MS -- MCITP- Enterprise Administrator
MS -- MCSE- Private Cloud
Vmware -- VCP5
 
 
 
 


On 13/02/2013 22:25, KUENY Serge wrote:


I suspect those that need help are (hopefully) using the various 
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ support forums as they're more active and officially

monitored by Knowledge Partners.

HTH,
Simon

Re: hello

Simon Flood — 2013-02-14T12:09:35


I suspect those that need help are (hopefully) using the various 
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ support forums as they're more active and officially 
monitored by Knowledge Partners.

HTH,
Simon

RE: hello

Tom Anstey — 2013-02-14T08:09:13

Yes, I'm sure Cal's right here. The need for support is relatively low, and particularly for those with .edu or the like, Novell looks after us very well.

For those of you who don't keep up with the news, take a look at http://www.novell.com/products/filr/ to see what sort of things are on the horizon.

T

Tom Anstey
Computer Manager
Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine
University of Oxford
Oxford OX3 9DS
United Kingdom
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Sent: 13 February 2013 23:53
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: hello

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On 2/13/13 5:25 PM, KUENY Serge wrote:

Either that, or for the ones that are left, it's working just fine ;-)

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Best Regards,
- -- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College
   Mudd Library, x.56930 -- CIT will NEVER ask you for your password!

   www.calfrye.com,  www.oberlin.edu/cit/

Re: hello

Cal Frye — 2013-02-13T23:53:30

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On 2/13/13 5:25 PM, KUENY Serge wrote:

Either that, or for the ones that are left, it's working just fine ;-)

- -- 
Best Regards,
- -- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College
   Mudd Library, x.56930 -- CIT will NEVER ask you for your password!

   www.calfrye.com,  www.oberlin.edu/cit/
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hello

KUENY Serge — 2013-02-13T22:25:42

Hello,

I don't get any message for many months?

Any problem ? or no one use novell anymore.......

Serge

Re: LUM enable apache

Joe Doupnik — 2012-07-20T14:51:35

-------------
     By default with OES Apache is run as user www:wwwrun and that is 
LUM enabled. You can easily see that by looking in eDir.
     Joe D.

LUM enable apache

Joseph Acquisto — 2012-07-20T14:18:47

Full Disclosure:  I have posted this on multiple lists.  

Anyone know if/how Apache can be LUM enabled on OES2?  That would be for pages requiring authentication of course. 

joe a.

Re: Trying to clone a disk, dd fails

Joseph Acquisto — 2012-07-19T00:39:01

I'll have a look.

joe a.

Re: Trying to clone a disk, dd fails

Joseph Acquisto — 2012-07-19T00:38:14

It's Knoppix  6.7 something, relatively recent.

Actually, I take your comments on the date stamps as support for my 
supposition.   The stamps on the /dev/cciss/blah are today, those on the
/KNOPPIX/dev/cciss/c1d1 are yesterday and those on 
/KNOPPIX/dev/cciss/c1d0 are 4 years past.

I was just hacking about attempting to find the actual device and noticed
that.  May be a herring of a different color.

Booted to OES, I can do "dd if=/dev/cciss/c1d0 of=/dev/null" and then
ctrl C, to see that stuff went to the bit bucket.

I guess that means I have to search out where Knoppix "says" the device
is.

joe a.

Re: Trying to clone a disk, dd fails

Paul Gear — 2012-07-18T21:41:22

Hi Joe,

I don't have much to offer on the front of the cciss device (i try not
to use hardware RAID for boot disks), but let me clarify something: the
date stamp on a block device file is meaningless.  It has nothing to do
with how old the disk is, or when it was last partitioned, or anything
like that.  It is simply when the device node in the filesystem was
created, which on most Linux distros is when the system was booted.

In this case, it probably means you have a 4-year-old Knoppix CD, in
which case i would suggest trying a newer live CD (say, Ubuntu 12.04)
and seeing if that makes a difference.  My gut suggests that you might
have hardware that is too new for the drivers on your Knoppix disk.

Regards,
Paul

Re: Trying to clone a disk, dd fails

Jon Christensen — 2012-07-18T20:32:58

Have you tried clonezilla live?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/clonezilla/?source=directory
I use the server edition for all my non-Mac imaging. For a once off, the
live version works great. Boot off the CD & either clone to another drive
in the same computer, or boot a second machine with the CD (on the same
network, using static IP addresses) and clone to it.
Jon

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Joseph Acquisto <joea< at >j4computers.com>wrote: