http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1289 <pre>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Chris Cunnington &lt;smalltalktelevision-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: Yes, you have to be root to do this. But DON'T DO THIS if you are still using VNC as that will start up yet another process of the website and is likely to just make it worse as they both try to contend for the same ports. There is never a need to do both of these. All I could do is simply repeat what you have already done which is to shut it down with vncserver -kill :1 (this :1 assumes that this is the assigned display port stated when vncserver was original run, you can also see it in the command line of the XTightvnc command line) and then start it back up with vncserver. After that the problem is almost certainly with something in the image and so you will have to fix it from there. So I just tried this and am not able to get into the image via VNC, so something is badly messed up with the image. At that point the only choice is to recover from backup. One piece of information y</pre> Ken Causey 2012-04-25T01:45:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1288 <pre>Chris Cunnington contacted me indicating that the SOB felt that the website needed some changes that could not be made through the web interface, had had no luck contacting Janko, and asked me to provide access. So I backed up the old VNC password and assigned a new one (I did not know, or at least remember the old password). The site was not currently running under VNC so I stopped it after verifying that the image had been saved relatively recently and restarted it under VNC. The new password has been sent to Chris Cunnington and Bert Freudenberg. Please contact them if you feel you should have access to the Squeak process underlying www.squeak.org. Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2012-04-19T21:07:01 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1287 <pre>Hi Ken, I think it is better that such alert is not send to so many people, but just few, maybe just two on different timezones. I'll remove you from Nagios mailing list for a start. Best regards Janko S, Ken Causey piše: </pre> Janko Mivšek 2011-09-09T20:19:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1286 <pre>Janko, I would appreciate it if Nagios started sending these to the webteam mailing list rather than me directly. Feel free to also send them to the box-admins mailing list. All you would need to do is subscribe nagios-bNCAF3xrlCT0CCC4E/TPifUpdFzICT1y&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org and disable delivery. Thanks, Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2011-09-09T20:05:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1285 <pre>OK, thanks. FYI the proper way to start and stop a VNC server is To start vncserver To stop vncserver -kill &lt;display number&gt; where &lt;display number&gt; is something like :1 or :2 and can be found by looking at command line for the process. Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2011-09-03T12:33:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1284 <pre>Hi Ken, I now prepared a semiautomatic procedure to restore and restart an image, so that reaction to such crash will be faster. Just FYI, a procedure to restore 3 days old website is: ssh website-POt3d/csA9Idnm+yROfE0A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org cd website cp /var/cache/rsnapshot/daily.2/localhost/home/website/website /squeaksite.* . top, kill website squeakvm and website Xtightvnc tightvncserver &amp; Squeaksite is now running again. Best regards Janko S, Ken Causey piše: </pre> Janko Mivšek 2011-09-03T09:10:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1283 <pre>I tried to simply restart the the image/process and apparently that was not sufficient as it is still not responding. Frankly I don't have time to deal with this today and it is really the webteam's responsibility to ensure this service works. If you need to restore from a backup it can be found in /var/cache/rsnapshot/ . daily.0 is the most recent backup. Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2011-09-02T15:16:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1282 <pre>The image was not responding at all, even via VNC so I replaced the image/changes with one backed up early on the 31st. It is now working but there is at least one debugger up and I suggest you log in via VNC to check over things. Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2011-08-01T22:34:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1281 <pre>Yes, it was just the website process, which I have now restarted. Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2011-07-31T20:03:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1279 <pre> On 12.06.2011, at 14:46, Casey Ransberger wrote: Apparently someone fixed it. The user and group is updates now. Try again. - Bert - _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam-bD51WKytQuJI8mQ4nJOOf3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam </pre> Bert Freudenberg 2011-06-12T22:51:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1277 <pre>Webteam, The diskusage on the server crossed 92% today and I decided it was time to free up some space. I note that in ~website/images/ there is 1.2GB of content that all appears to date back to at least 2008. Does this need to be on the server? If not I would like to delete it. If you decide to delete it don't just delete it and leave it at that as I also need to delete it from the local backup or it will continue to persist there and use up another 1.2GB+ of space. Thanks, Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2011-05-28T19:04:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1276 <pre>Hi guys, Website is back online. Last what I seen was some out of memory warning on VNC window, even that Memory monitor didn't show any excessive memory usage. Image was stil alive but unresponsive. So I shut it down and restart. Best regards Janko On 21. 04. 2011 08:28, Casey Ransberger wrote: </pre> Janko Mivšek 2011-04-21T07:28:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1275 <pre>Hi guys, Just FYI, PayPal Donate button is now on http://www.squeak.org available on every page there. Best regards Janko Webteam </pre> Janko Mivšek 2011-04-07T15:07:58 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1274 <pre>Perhaps by 'vm dump' you mean the SqueakDebug.log. When there is one it is in the same directory as the image and so you have access to it. However, the only one there is dated yesterday. Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2011-02-28T23:20:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1273 <pre>VM dump? I'm not sure what you mean. The VM does not crash, the image is simply locked up. It's probable that I could have interrupted it with alt-. but that doesn't seem to work over VNC. No website process active? You are mistaken and have created a second one now: box2:~# ps auwx | grep website website 8850 0.0 0.5 6800 5020 ? S 22:30 0:00 Xtightvnc :1 -desktop X -auth /home/website/.Xauthority -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24 -rfbwait 120000 -rfbauth /home/website/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5901 -fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ -co /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb website 8855 2.6 8.1 1052604 79196 ? S 22:30 1:07 /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.11.3-2135/squeakvm -pathenc UTF-8 -encoding UTF-8 -plugins /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.11.3-2135 /home/website/website/squeaksite.image website 9044 0.0 0.6 8044 5920 ? S 22:32 0:00 Xtightvnc :4 -desktop X -auth /</pre> Ken Causey 2011-02-28T23:15:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1272 <pre>After I received this notice I checked and the website process had the CPU pegged with normal memory usage. I tried to connect with VNC and got connected but the image was locked up. There was a debugger open and I took a screenshot which can be found at http://users.squeak.org/~kencausey/website_locked.png I chatted in the IRC channel as I was fiddling with it: 2011-02-28 16:24:21 kencausey JankoMivsek: website process is flipping out again 2011-02-28 16:26:14 kencausey the memory usage is normal this time, it just has the CPU pegged 2011-02-28 16:26:41 kencausey looking at the logs, the last successful hit was the nagios check oddly enough, 2 hits before google hit the stats page again 2011-02-28 16:26:56 kencausey I don't see anything suspicious like the last time 2011-02-28 16:29:41 kencausey there is a debugger open on a send of #bottomContext to UndefinedObject 2011-02-28 16:29:50 kencausey I can't interact with it 2011-02-28 16:30:54 </pre> Ken Causey 2011-02-28T22:47:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1271 <pre>OK, so let's examine the possibility this was the result of a DOS of some kind (intentional or unintentional). First let's work out the timeline a bit: The Nagios notice was sent out at "Sat Feb 26 11:24:15 CET 2011" or 10:24:15 GMT Saturday. I'm a little less certain when I restarted the image. I forwarded the error notice and commented on the state of things at about 10:39. I replied that I had restarted the image at about 10:46. Looking at the apache logs for www.squeak.org: 207.46.195.239 - - [26/Feb/2011:10:20:53 +0000] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.1" 404 149 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm)" 80.81.242.100 - - [26/Feb/2011:10:21:49 +0000] "GET /stats.html?view=main&amp;year=1702&amp;month=8 HTTP/1.1" 502 399 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" at 10:20:53 We have Bing requesting a robots.txt which we don't have. The next line is the next event: At 10:21:49 we have Google (it appears) surfing the stats.html page and t</pre> Ken Causey 2011-02-27T00:47:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1270 <pre>Hi guys, This fast growing image problem could be cause because of Dos attack, So Sean, go looking there if there you'll see some enormous amount of requests from our site and specially, are they coming from there same IP. Knowing that IP we can narrower the culpit closer. Past two image crashes were caused by image not snapshoting every hour. We switched snapshoting off a time ago and forgot to switch on, ok, now it is on again. Best regards Janko On 26. 02. 2011 18:56, Ken Causey wrote: </pre> Janko Mivšek 2011-02-26T18:08:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1269 <pre>Well it continued to grow quickly so I did indeed kill it. I have restarted it under vnc at port :1. It appears the image was being saved regularly and the site is back up and fine as far as I'm aware. Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2011-02-26T10:46:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1268 <pre>I happen to be awake and online during this event, still on-going: appearance of the process in top: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10856 website 25 0 1027m 753m 3324 R 94.2 79.5 82:28.27 /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.11.3-2135/squeakvm -pathenc UTF-8 -encoding UTF-8 -plugins /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.11.3-2135 /home/website/w ... as you can see it is pegging the CPU and using a lot of memory (in no more than a minute it has gone from about 700MB to over 750MB). I'll watch it for a few minutes but I am almost certainly going to have to kill it and restart. I hope you have been saving.... Ken </pre> Ken Causey 2011-02-26T10:39:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/1267 <pre> Thanks. So, by my understanding, if we wait to do the condense as one of first steps for 4.3, then the "4.2 release" can be present itself in terms of its predecessor. I have really enjoyed having that during 4.2 and think it's relevant even after release; it seems good to keep delta's with the prior version in each release, especially since it's not very costly. That is only an old, incidental copy of the license, not the official statement about license from Squeak. </pre> Chris Muller 2011-02-01T02:57:34 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam