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Re: R jargon

Frank Harrell — 2010-08-16T12:03:29

You make good points Philippe.  I stand my my original opinion that 
as long as everyone continues to answer posts to r-help it will 
remain a never-ending unorganized string of largely redundant 
information.  It is rare for people seeking information to search the 
r-help archive, and the archive is unnecessarily large.

Frank

Frank E Harrell Jr   Professor and Chairman        School of Medicine
                      Department of Biostatistics   Vanderbilt University

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Philippe Grosjean wrote:

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Re: R jargon

Philippe Grosjean — 2010-08-16T10:52:41

One thing that can be done is to update the list of abbreviations to 
include R specific terms. The Wiki adds automatically a little tooltip 
text with the definition that is activated each time the user moves the 
mouse cursor on top of the word.

A page with the definitions would be worth too.

Regarding the mitigate success of the Wiki, that contrasts with other 
languages where the wiki is really the primary source of information (I 
think at Tcl/Tk, for instance). I think the reason is the other 
"channels" of information are pre-existing the R wiki, and people are 
used to them. Regarding R blogs, the reason is different: it looks more 
technically up-to-date to have and use a blog than a wiki... although I 
think the wiki is better for collaborative writing of documentation in a 
centralized place.

The "wikified" version of help pages with a discussion section was, I 
think, a good idea but I never got the time to finalize the plugin and 
to install a system that automatically synch wiki versions of

Re: R jargon

Patrick Burns — 2010-08-09T08:27:08

Thanks for the good question, Ben.

I'm looking for volunteers.  I'm
definitely not going to have time to
learn enough wiki stuff to put the
structure in place.

Once the structure is there, I would
put definitions in.  But I'd prefer
for someone to volunteer to do that
as well -- I have one or two other
things in mind to do.

Pat


On 08/08/2010 21:27, Ben Bolker wrote:

Re: R jargon

Ben Bolker — 2010-08-08T20:27:50

  So ... are you asking requesting commentary on whether this is a
good idea or not? (Seems so to me.)  Asking for for help in porting
this/volunteers to port it? (I might help, but I also might not find
time. I would be happy if someone else volunteered ...)

  I guess I'm as frustrated as (perhaps) all of the other wiki contributors
that it hasn't taken off, and that the primary source of information as well
as the primary sink of energy for answering questions remains the mailing
list. (Now Stackoverflow, Stackexchange, and various R blogs are also
competing for this energy ...)
   I intended to make contributions to the wiki be a class activity, but I
never really got around to it. I still think that's a good idea.

  Ben Bolker

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Patrick Burns <patrick< at >burns-stat.com> wrote:

R jargon

Patrick Burns — 2010-08-07T10:29:30

The document 'Some hints for the R beginner'
is gradually becoming more complete and gradually
gaining momentum in terms of hits.

One of the more popular sub-pages is the jaRgon
page even though there is hardly anything on it.

I think the R-wiki is the place that such a list
should live.  My vision is that for each word
there be a brief definition and then a link to a
wiki page for the word.  A number of definitions
would be on the same page.

I think this could be the application that finally
gives the R-wiki the boost that it needs to fulfill
its promise.  The people learning R from the 'hints'
document would come to think of the R-wiki as a
natural place to look for information.

The steps to do this are to create the structure
within the wiki for it, and then to populate the
definitions.  The glossary from S Poetry should be
a good starting point.  I'm also happy to donate
the jaRgon pun.

Re: R-wiki down?

Peter Dalgaard — 2010-02-08T15:50:57

Just in case it wasn't already obvious: There shouldn't be any changes
needed on the R homepage. The missing item is a ServerAlias (or some
such thing) in the rwiki.sciviews.org configuration at Philippe's end.

-pd

Re: R-wiki down?

Peter Konings — 2010-02-08T14:39:05

Thanks for your answers. I will use rwiki.sciviews.org for now; the R 
homepage still has these dead links.

Peter.

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Re: R-wiki down?

Philippe Grosjean — 2010-02-05T12:55:57

Peter Dalgaard wrote:

Yes, indeed. The R Wiki was moved yesterday on 
http://rwiki.sciviews.org/ and Martin Maechler did the required changes 
for pointing wiki.r-project.org to rwiki.sciviews.org accordingly. But 
there is still a problem in the Apache configuration on my side, it seems.

Philippe Grosjean

Re: R-wiki down?

Peter Dalgaard — 2010-02-05T11:16:33

I suspect that some server side aliasing got messed up. We have

wiki.r-project.org.     7139    IN      CNAME   rwiki.sciviews.org.
rwiki.sciviews.org.     10572   IN      A       87.98.211.111

and using the canonical name

http://rwiki.sciviews.org/

does indeed bring up the R wiki.

R-wiki down?

Peter Konings — 2010-02-05T11:06:34

Dear all,

what happened to the R wiki? The links on the R homepage 
(http://wiki.r-project.org) result in a 404 error. Has it been moved?

kind regards
Peter.

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Re: can I create Wiki pages for my local R User Group?

Romain François — 2009-09-03T05:48:33

Sure. Put it wherever common sense drives you ... for example 
rugs:r_user_groups:madison

Romain

can I create Wiki pages for my local R User Group?

Yury Bukhman — 2009-09-02T21:11:32

Hi,



we have organized a new R user group in Madison, WI, USA.  I have edited the rugs:r_user_groups page to put in information about our group.  I would like to create a Wiki page for our meeting schedule, and possibly other related pages in the future.  Would it be appropriate to use the R Wiki for that?  If so, where in the name spaces should I put my page(s)?



Thanks.



Yury













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