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Re: Results from a bad sleep and call for packagers

Doruk Fisek — 2008-12-04T07:06:19

Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:26:43 -0000 (GMT), Regis Boudin public.gmane.org> : I package Tellico for Pardus (www.pardus.org.tr/eng/). Is there anything specific you want me to test for trunk? Doruk -- FISEK INSTITUTE - http://www.fisek.org.tr

Re: Results from a bad sleep and call for packagers

Robby Stephenson — 2008-12-04T06:49:40

[Regis, I forwarded your message on to the list. I'm not sure what the list problems are.] On Tuesday 02 December 2008, Regis Boudin wrote: Neither of those issues show up for me. Let me know if you get a debug trace. Good to know. I hadn't worked on the translations or documentation yet. I'm curious about what versions of KDE and Qt you're compiling with, too. I've only been testing with KDE 4.1.3 and Qt 4.4.3 lately. Robby

Results from a bad sleep and call for packagers

Regis Boudin — 2008-12-02T15:26:43

Hi everyone, Yes, I like cryptic subjects :) So first, for people who wonder about my debian/ubuntu packages... Simply put, October has been quite hectic, I just moved home, and I'm without a correct internet connection at the moment, so packages won't be available for a while, unfortunately. Now, for the interesting stuff. I wasn't sleeping last night, so decided to do some packaging-related work and testing on the trunk. Mostly, I've been making sure everything is set to be installed where it should. That goes for the icons, documentation, translations (more on that later), and I got to what I hope is a pretty good situation. I successfully built and installed debian packages from the trunk yesterday. So, if there is any other distribution packager around, I would like any feedback from attempts at making packages from the trunk. Another thing I looked at was translations. I grabbed the example script to update pot/po files from the KDE4 documentation, and it seemed to work, though I'm not certain that

Re: Work-flow issues

Valerio Ricci — 2008-11-28T09:52:40

An extra button seems to be a great idea, but making it a default option will not assure accuracy in search results. Actually I don't know the situation for the LOC or other sources, but in the case of the Italian National Libray there are many entries for a certain ISBN code, due to the fact that reprints are different editions but they share the same ISBN code.

Re: Work-flow issues

Todd A. Jacobs — 2008-11-28T06:47:15

I think that might fit the bill. That's a great idea, Robby!

Re: Work-flow issues

Todd A. Jacobs — 2008-11-28T06:43:37

Sorry for the excessive delay in responding to you, Robby. My reply is below. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 07:14:25AM -0700, Robby Stephenson wrote: Part of the problem with changing the defaults is that it isn't always obvious what the defaults at the time of import are unless you double back and check. So, in this particular work-flow, we're importing a box of books at a time (usually around 20-30 books), and having to change the defaults for such small sets every few minutes leads to very human mistakes like forgetting to update the default box number, or changing the wrong field by accident. I think you're right about the problem of adding it in the search dialog. I don't think that's really the right answer. Really, in my case it's a storage-location issue: items in a collection ought to have a location (a box, a shelf, or a room). More generally, items in a sub-collection ought to have shared defaults of some sort, and a way to select those non-title specific defaults during import. I think the real is

Re: Italian localization

Robby Stephenson — 2008-11-26T04:31:36

msgfmt didn't report any errors, so I checked in your changes to the SVN branch. Robby

Italian localization

Valerio Ricci — 2008-11-25T15:22:11

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Re: utf-8 export bibtex issue

Robby Stephenson — 2008-11-06T14:49:00

Did you modify that bibtex-translations.xml file? What kind of changes? What were the four errors? Perhaps Tellico did not export correctly? Robby

Re: utf-8 export bibtex issue

Thibaud Hulin — 2008-11-05T13:17:03

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Re: utf-8 export bibtex issue

Robby Stephenson — 2008-11-01T19:11:29

Right. I know that there are some flavors of tex out there that support utf-8, but Tellico sort of defaults to the lowest common denominator. If you want to change the behavior, you can edit the bibtex-translation.xml file that gets installed with Tellico. Take out the entries that you don't want Tellico to translate. Robby

Re: utf-8 export bibtex issue

Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda — 2008-10-31T14:16:26

A Divendres 31 Octubre 2008, Thibaud Hulin va escriure: Hi, I don't understand your problem. I think that it's correct to export an accented letter with {\'e} as é is correct in LaTeX. Could you explain a bit more? Regards, Leo

utf-8 export bibtex issue

Thibaud Hulin — 2008-10-31T12:54:11

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Re: memory consumption problem as collections get bigger

Robby Stephenson — 2008-10-30T06:41:09

Certainly a valid question. I'll poke at it some. There's overhead with the data structures, but a 10x+ memory usage is way excessive. Robby

Re: memory consumption problem as collections get bigger

Doruk Fisek — 2008-10-30T06:31:24

Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:23:59 -0700, Robby Stephenson public.gmane.org> : ~9000 albums. I'm not saying it's small but even if you load the whole 16 MB file to RAM, why does it take up so much space? My file is 1.9M, that's 16 MB unzipped. In KDE System Guard's process table, Vmsize 277988, Vmrss 243480. (I double checked with top command too). No images, no pixmaps, nothing at all. Doruk -- FISEK INSTITUTE - http://www.fisek.org.tr

Re: memory consumption problem as collections get bigger

Robby Stephenson — 2008-10-30T06:24:27

Then I'd need to learn python in addition to sql. :) Robby

Re: memory consumption problem as collections get bigger

Robby Stephenson — 2008-10-30T06:23:59

A 16 MB XML text file is pretty huge. How many entries? How are you measuring the memory usage? The virtual column in top includes all the KDE libraries, etc. I have a test file with 10k entries that's 5 mb unzipped. The shared column in top shows 20 m usage. Are you loading the images at all? I mean, do you have a visible column with the images, or using the icon view or anything? It's possible the image cache is not working correctly, and the loaded pixmaps, etc. aren't being freed, I guess. Robby

Re: memory consumption problem as collections get bigger

Benny Malengier — 2008-10-29T21:59:23

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Re: memory consumption problem as collections get bigger

Doruk Fisek — 2008-10-29T16:05:58

Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:03:54 -0700, Robby Stephenson public.gmane.org> : Even if you store all of the collection in RAM, 250 MB consumption for a 16 MB xml file (not zipped) seems too much. It's nearly 15 times the original size. There are none. I know it does, that's why I didn't put any (though I wanted to). Doruk -- FISEK INSTITUTE - http://www.fisek.org.tr

Re: memory consumption problem as collections get bigger

Benny Malengier — 2008-10-29T15:18:52

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Re: memory consumption problem as collections get bigger

Robby Stephenson — 2008-10-29T14:55:10

True. I wish I spoke SQL. I've taken a shot at it before, and had problems getting the performance. Robby