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Re: Shutdown on KDE+ terminal : questions

Andy Johnson — 2013-05-24T06:23:00

Hello,
Thanks a lot for your detailed answer!

Regarding gnome terminal starting minimized:
I tried Using Minimized (both with Apply Initially and force) and it did not
work.
But inspired by this direction,
I tried Minimum Size , Force, 800,400
and the result is ok for me.


For shutdown, I applied what you suggested but I did not tested
it.

Regards,
Andy


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Re: Shutdown on KDE+ terminal : questions

Duncan — 2013-05-24T04:37:54

Andy Johnson posted on Thu, 23 May 2013 17:48:11 +0300 as excerpted:


Yes.  I believe the following is what you are looking for:

In kde settings (called system settings by kde when /in/ kde, altho with 
a few exceptions most of the exposed settings are user-specific kde 
settings, not actually global system settings, so the old kde3 name 
kcontrol is actually far more accurate), system administration, startub 
and shutdown, session management:

Uncheck "Confirm logout."

AFAIK that /should/ do it for you, altho I actually handle things a bit 
differently here, using a keyboard shortcut instead of the normal logout/
shutdown menu entry most of the time, so I keep that setting checked 
here, in case I hit it accidentally with the mouse or something.

FWIW, the associated keyboard shortcuts are also found in kde settings, 
but in a different spot: common appearance and behavior, shortcuts and 
gestures, global keyboard shortcuts.

In the kde component dropdown, select "The KDE Session Manager".  There's 
only

Re: KDESU doesn't work again with 4.10

Duncan — 2013-05-24T03:37:08

James Tyrer posted on Thu, 23 May 2013 15:28:08 -0700 as excerpted:


IIRC/AFAIK it's not a bug, it's a security measure.  I'm fuzzy on some of 
the details but some time in the late kde-3.5 era, shortly before kde4 
came out IIRC, there was a big hubbub about the security of *.desktop 
files located on the desktop.

The problem was (IIRC) that *.desktop files, similar to *.lnk aka 
"shortcut" files in the MS Windows world, are /too/ configurable, 
allowing the icon and name displayed to have nothing to do with the 
command actually run, if so configured.  Combined that with people often 
downloading content from untrusted parts of the net directly to the 
desktop, and it's a recipe for a serious security issue, since at least 
in theory, wherever they were downloading the file from could say it was 
for example "The Gimp" and have the appropriate icon for the gimp 
configured to be displayed, but instead, the actual command run could do 
something entirely different.

This is *PARTICULARLY* a problem with s

Re: KDESU doesn't work again with 4.10

Dale — 2013-05-24T00:37:22

I have ran into that before.  Usually it is because a kdesu process is
running but not responding.  Either logout or kill the process and it
should work.  This is the command I use to find it:

ps aux | grep kdesu

I then just kill the process that shows up.  Sometimes if I do it fast
enough, it pops up. 

I think we are running into the same thing. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: KDESU doesn't work again with 4.10

James Tyrer — 2013-05-23T22:28:08

Following up on this.  I find that there is a great mystery which I 
presume is a bug.

Your 'desktop' file works when it is in a menu.

Specifically, there is a menu item under System that correctly opens a 
filemanager window as root using KDESU.  However, if you drag this from 
the menu to the DeskTop file and "Copy" then it doesn't work.  The KDESU 
window pops up and I enter the password correctly, but the filemanager 
window NEVER shows up.  :-(.

Thanks again for trying to help.

So, I guess that I will stick to my work around till somebody fixes what 
appears to be a bug.

Shutdown on KDE+ terminal : questions

Andy Johnson — 2013-05-23T14:48:11

Hello,
I am a newbie on KDE. I just ran away from Gnome when upgrading
to Fedora 18 after some issues which are probably related to the
desktop manager.

I have 2 issues - I hope you might advice:

1) I found out the when I click the power down button, there is a counter
of a minute or so untill it really shuts down.

Is there a way to change it that it will occur immediately ?
(of course I know that I can run "shutdown -h now'" from a terminal,
but I want to shutdown from the desktop, preferably with what I
already have.

2)  When I run the terminal (it is gnome terminal ) it starts miminized.
I tried changing the defaults but it did not help

Any ideas?

rgs,
Andy
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Re: adding icon

Duncan — 2013-05-23T07:05:10

Doug posted on Wed, 22 May 2013 19:14:28 -0400 as excerpted:


Did you put the program executable file itself on the desktop, or is it a 
*.desktop file or an icon dragged from the kickoff menu or similar?

If it's the program (executable) file itself, that always gets the 
generic program file icon, normally a gear, indicating that it's the 
executable file itself.

To change the icon you must be using a *.desktop file, a text file that 
defines certain properties like the executable to call (the program 
executable itself), the working directory it should start in, any command-
line parameters that should be used when that *.desktop file is invoked, 
a name (which does NOT have to be the filename) and a short and long 
description (depending on the configuration, either the short description 
or the name may be shown), and significantly for your question here, the 
icon that should be displayed.

The package may have shipped with a *.desktop file in addition to the 
icons -- packages of executables intende

adding icon

Doug — 2013-05-22T23:14:28

Downloaded and installed a useful program not in the 
repo--ConvertAll--which comes with a set of icons, large, medium, small.
I have placed the program on the desktop, but it doesn't use an icon 
that it came packed with, but some generic one. How do
I exchange the provided icon for the generic?
Thanx--doug

Re: KMail2, more

Duncan — 2013-05-21T21:15:46

David Baron posted on Tue, 21 May 2013 17:22:08 +0300 as excerpted:


Please turn off the HTML for posting to mailing lists...

Many users have found the new akonadified kmail2 simply not worth the 
headaches it is causing them, and have switched to something else.

The gtk-based claws-mail is quite a popular choice and what I chose here, 
to great effect. (Ironically, back in 2002 when I first switched to 
Linux, my mail client choice came down to the then sylpheed claws, now 
claws-mail, and kmail.  Had I made the other choice, I'd have never had 
to change back to it about a decade later.)

Others have found gnome's evolution or mozilla's thunderbird to be a 
better choice for them.  As they say, YMMV.

KMail2, more

David Baron — 2013-05-21T14:22:08

The Akonadi Kmail Mail folder resource is quite flakey, go "off line," redded 
out very frequently requiring restarting kde.

Removing this resource (cannot be done from kmail itself) and placing a local 
kmail maildir gives a better behaved access to the same folders.

However, now, there is transportation problem deleting message from my own 
imap and had problems sending as well.
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Re: missing gedit menu entry

Rex Dieter — 2013-05-16T12:31:59


For posterity, here's a way to help find things:

$ kbuildsycoca4 --menutest | grep -i gedit
...
Utilities/      gedit.desktop   /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop

Re: missing menu entry

Andy Johnson — 2013-05-15T09:25:28

Hell,
Thanks, you are right, it is in Utilities, I missed it!


rgs,
Andy

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Re: missing menu entry

Myriam Schweingruber — 2013-05-15T09:16:44

Hi Andy

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Andy Johnson <johnsonzjo< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Isn't that just an editor? Then it certainly is not in Development,
but in Utilities, did you check there?

FWIW: if you are using KDE, why not use Kate for this? It is the
default editor for KDE and much better integrated.

Else, right click on the launcher icon in the Panel -> Edit Applications...


Regards, Myriam

missing menu entry

Andy Johnson — 2013-05-15T09:03:23

Hello,
I started using kde in fedora 18 after I was disappointed from gnome3.

One thing bothers me with - there is no menu entry for some apps, like gEdit.

I go to All applications->development
I see some packages I installed, like meld (diff tool), eclipse, more.
But there is no gEdit.
How can I add it ?

regards,
Andy
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Re: Kmail2

Kevin Krammer — 2013-05-12T08:59:57

Can you describe what you try when it "will not let you get rid" of it?

Does the disabled one display any error messages?
Can you try toggling it to "online" mode using akonadiconsole?

Cheers,
Kevin

Kmail2

David Baron — 2013-05-12T07:28:50

Password problems may have been due to mixed installation versions.

Main problem is that the "KMail Folders" becomes disconnected. It is easy 
enough to make a second copy of this, an "account" to the same ~/Mail. It will 
sync up, be accessible and maybe even stay so. Kmail will not let me get rid 
ot the original account, however, and, working on the same directory tree!! 
remains disabled.

I guess leaving the both around enables access but filters are going to "one" 
of them!
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Re: KDE - What is 'Meta'?

Pablo Sanchez — 2013-05-11T11:51:43

[ Comments below, in-line ]

On 05/11/2013 07:17 AM, Duncan wrote:

Hi Duncan,

Thank you for the screen shots and the details.

I have a single display that is 1920x1200.  With that, I've 
strategically sized and placed gkrellm and conky so I can always see them.

Cheers,

Re: KDE - What is 'Meta'?

Duncan — 2013-05-11T11:17:32

Pablo Sanchez posted on Thu, 09 May 2013 09:52:56 -0400 as excerpted:


OK, these are full resolution, full-color pngs.  Since I'm running three 
stacked full-hd monitors, that's 1920x3240 resolution for the full-screen 
(4.6 MB), (almost) the same width but a third the height for superkaramba-
only image.  Viewing in a browser that allows toggling between full-size 
and fit-to-window is recommended.

(Semi-NSFW warning on the full-screen.  Bikini-clad firefox skin that I 
forgot about until after the snap.  The superkaramba-only version is 
safe, however.)

Full-screen: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/05/11/duncan-fullscreen.png

Some things can be noted here.

1) As I mentioned earlier the top monitor's only 1/4 the size (1/2 in 
either direction) but the same resolution.  Modern xorg uses standard 
96dpi (I believe the same as MS Windows and/or Apple OSX, but I've not 
done servantware in years so wouldn't know from experience), so the fonts 
come out way tiny.  I'm in my 40s and part of the reason for the bigger

Re: KDE - What is 'Meta'?

Mark Knecht — 2013-05-09T14:10:34

Sounds cool. +1 on the screenshot. Post a photo somewhere.

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: KDE - What is 'Meta'?

Pablo Sanchez — 2013-05-09T13:52:56

[ Comments below, in-line ]

On 05/09/2013 09:50 AM, Duncan wrote:

Screen shot!!!   :)

I've been using conky and gkrellm forever but perhaps `change is in the 
air'

Cheers,

Re: KDE - What is 'Meta'?

Duncan — 2013-05-09T13:50:34

Duncan posted on Thu, 09 May 2013 06:06:12 +0000 as excerpted:


I just finished superkaramba and plasma, and wow, I hadn't realized just 
how geeked out it'd look until now.  Seriously, it's like the movies or 
something.  Two huge monitors in front of me with stuff I'm working on, 
and the system status monitor with a bunch of scrolling graphs and logs 
off to my right, since there's no more room directly in front of me.  
This in a small trailer, actually in my bed room hardly bigger than the 
bed already, with the big-screens at the foot of the bed and the status 
monitor to the side, dramatically compounding the effect.  It seriously 
looks like headquarters-central for /something/ big and electronic!

It's awesome!  I wouldn't have dared to dream of this day! =:^)

Now to do the SSDs... but probably not today as I'm sleepy now after 
working on it all nite.  Luckily I don't work until 5 this evening, so I 
can still get some reasonable sleep b4 work.