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Re: problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting

Brian — 2012-05-17T00:09:46

On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:55:13 +1200
Robin Paulson <robin.paulson< at >gmail.com> wrote:


That's suggesting a bluetooth device error because of an empty path.
I don't think that's likely to be the cause of your trouble. It's
probably indicative of something you may have missed during
reassembly perhaps which may be the root cause.

This is also assuming you've already attempted trying other distros on
known to work media of course.


Brian

Re: problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting

Robin Paulson — 2012-05-16T22:55:13

it printed this, i'm not sure what it means:
QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
Method call  "/->DefaultAdapter()"  failed:
QDBusError("org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter", "No such adapter")

unofficial mirror for {git, lists, wiki}.openmoko.org

Timo Juhani Lindfors — 2012-05-16T13:40:47

Hi,

since I personally want to make sure that the material created by the
openmoko community does not get lost I created an unofficial mirror for
git.openmoko.org, wiki.openmoko.org and lists.openmoko.org:

http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/mirror/

I documented the hacky scripts that I wrote yesterday to do this in the
"mirror-tools/" subdirectories. Please let me know if something
important is missing from the data (the wiki dump should contain all
pages with history and also binary files).

-Timo

Re: problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting

Radek Polak — 2012-05-16T10:28:48


You can try to start qtmoko from ssh:

ssh root< at >192.168.0.202
/etc/init.d/qtmoko-neo stop
. /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env
qpe

It should print something useful.

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Re: OpenPhoenux / GTA04 < at > LinuxTag Berlin

elf Pavlik — 2012-05-16T09:10:09

Excerpts from Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller's message of 2012-05-16 06:19:37 +0000:

great! looking forward :)

OpenPhoenux / GTA04 < at > LinuxTag Berlin

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller — 2012-05-16T06:19:37

Lukas and myself will be in Berlin at Friday (25 may) afternoon and
Saturday (26 may).

We are looking forward to meet as many of you as possible for face
to face discussions! I think there will be many interesting things to discuss:

* GTA04 and future
* 3D case printing
* Keyboard prototype
* Distro projects (SHR, QtMoko, Replicant/AoF, ...)
* Openmoko.org organization
* whatever you think is important

There will be a shared Project Meeting Point (Booth 7.2a 181c) as scheduled here:

http://wiki.linuxtag.org/w/fp:ProjectMeetingPoints

Please look up regularily since it may change on short notice.

And, we have made a late entry submission for a presentation, but it is
not yet confirmed.

To make easier the decision to come, the LinuxTag organizers have
given us some free entrance tickets (regular price is AFAIK 20 EUR).
If you are interested, please send me a private mail and I can send you
an electronic ticket that you can print yourself.

CU< at >Berlin,

Nikolaus

Re: Ok Tread lightly please. I'm an end User.

Benjamin Deering — 2012-05-16T02:27:04

Hi,

I'm not sure about the state of the ubi image of SHR right now.  If it 
is good, I think you can install it with neotool (available in some 
linux distros, or buildable from source).  You would need the ubi image, 
a kernel image, and a bootloader image.

 From neotool, click 'flash my freerunner', choose gui, bootloader, and 
kernel.  It will tell you when and how to connect the phone.  I think 
most people now only flash the bootloader, then put the OS on microSD.

Ben

On 05/15/2012 09:47 PM, Travis Bachelder wrote:

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Ok Tread lightly please. I'm an end User.

Travis Bachelder — 2012-05-16T01:47:31

So I am trying to format (Flash?) my Freerunner and put Qi (Bootloader) and
SHR (OS) onto NAND. I've downloaded the ubifs image from the SHR website.

What I am curious about is: Why isn't there a fancy program that does all
this for me!? :) JK

What I am really curious about is: Is the bootloader included in the ubifs
image? I have a feeling it's a separate file.
Is there a specific order I should flash? Right now, Android installed on
the NAND. Do I need to remove this, or should the "flashing" process take
care of this for me? I would like to replace the Android OS completely.

No such thing as too much detail, I appreciate any response.
Thanks,
Travis

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problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting

Robin Paulson — 2012-05-16T00:30:36

hi all,
i broke the screen on my freerunner a while back (although it still
displayed, and the touch part sort of worked), and put a new one in
last week, bought from a seller on ebay.

i booted the freerunner up, and the screen appeared to work fine, boot
text was moving across the screen. however, when qtmoko started, the
timer thing in the centre of the screen stayed on, and then qtmoko
restarted. then it restarted again, and again, and again. i ran top
via ssh from my laptop, and cpu for qpe is very high all the time.

so, i uninstalled and purged qtmoko, then reinstalled (v.44-1). same
thing again.

any suggestions what to do? i've checked the connections on the screen
and they are fine. i wonder if it's anything to do with the
calibration of the touchpad? is there anyway to manually edit it, i.e.
a .conf file somewhere?

cheers,

Re: Discussion: what are your dreams for the Openmoko Community

Timo Juhani Lindfors — 2012-05-15T10:23:27

I haven't, I didn't have time to figure out how to port it to X :(

Re: USB Networking Issue

Timo Juhani Lindfors — 2012-05-13T15:15:14

It'd be useful to see the output of the "dmesg", "ip address" and "ip
route" commands from both arch and ubuntu.

Re: USB Networking Issue

Matthias Apitz — 2012-05-13T15:11:55

El día Sunday, May 13, 2012 a las 09:57:55AM -0500, Cristian Gómez escribió:


I do not know anything about Arch Linux. But, I have had the same
problem with FreeBSD. With the older SHR version (around 2010) the
interface was created fine, while with the recent (stage 046, or even
before) it was not created. The problem was that the USB vendor and
product ID is now presented by the SHR Linux kernel as 0x0525:0xa4a2
(and as well the IP addr pair changed, btw.). In FreeBSD I have had to
adjust my device daemon hook scripts to that. Maybe Arch Linux uses a
similar procedure to detect the USB device as a network device ...

HIH, espero que te ayude

matthias

USB Networking Issue

Cristian Gómez — 2012-05-13T14:57:55

Hi guys, I'm using SHR (last build) on NAND and QTMoko on SD and when I
connect my FR to my Arch Linux box, I can't get a new network interface to
ping/ssh to. This happens on Arch, in Ubuntu the interface is created
without problems

Do you know how to fix this?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [Gta04-owner] [ANN] GTA04 Keyboard prototype

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller — 2012-05-12T16:10:09

Hi,

Am 11.05.2012 um 21:02 schrieb Lionel Broche:


The prototype [1] is a 1mm FR4 PCB because pressing the buttons needs a quite stiff counterpart.

Bending should be possible, but keep in mind that the buttons we use have 4 solder joints at the corners.
I don't know how easily they break when bending the PCB. But if you glue the bent PCB on a rounded stiff
substrate it could work well.

You could try a company like Leiton (they have an online shop for such flex PCBs):

http://www.leiton.de/flex-pcb.html


The dimensions are following the current battery cover. I.e. it is 50x109 mm. The radius of the "ears" is 25mm.
I.e. you can think of a 50x59 mm rectangle with two 25mm radius half-circles.
But this is just the prototype and making a different keyboard PCB should not be a major challenge...

The thickness is 1mm for the PCB and the buttons are Panasonic EVQPQ series (because they are
easily available < at > DigiKey):

http://industrial.panasonic.com/www-data/pdf/ATK0000/ATK0000CE1.pdf

Thickness is 0.55 mm. I

Re: [Gta04-owner] [ANN] GTA04 Keyboard prototype

Lionel Broche — 2012-05-11T19:02:03

A couple of quick questions about the keyboard prototype:
- is this a flexible PCB? Or could it be printed on a flexible substrate so
that surface can be bent?
- what are the dimensions of the PCB? how thick should the whole keyboard
be with the buttons included?

Lionel
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Re: [dfu-util] who use it for flashing FR?

urodelo — 2012-05-11T15:21:36

1)What you have quoted was the answer for Thomas; the official froyo  
builds are outdated  a bit, those made by Ran are available on another  
repo (sedar-dare)

2)For what I know, dfutils is the only way to flash android on fr, doesn't  
matter which version, therefore I assume every android on freerunner user  
is using dfutils for flashing nand

urodelo

On Fri, 11 May 2012 11:21:43 +0200, Patryk Benderz <Patryk.Benderz< at >esp.pl>  
wrote:

Re: [Gta02-owner] - fbreader (v39 qtmoko)

Yury Sakarinen — 2012-05-11T14:04:40

  

Unfortunately there is no context menu in full-screen mode. That is
problem. 

Radek Polak писал 11.05.2012 14:38: 

2012 08:59:39 AM Yury Sakarinen wrote: 

screen 
in context menu that does it, but i am not sure (maybe it quits the
whole app). 

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

Patryk Benderz — 2012-05-11T12:19:13

[cut]
Thats the reason why I wrote:
"...I know FR's screen is very small, so it might appear not very
useful..."

Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

Radek Polak — 2012-05-11T11:30:32


You can do ESC+1 to emulate F1 etc... But with custom layouts it should not be 
problem to have even F1..F12 keys - i'll write it down to my todo list.

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

Radek Polak — 2012-05-11T11:28:41


I can implement custom layouts to it, but i'd rather start with something 
simple and then add features - even keyboard without custom layouts is a lot 
of work... I will either do qtmoko v45 without layouts and then v46 with 
layouts or v45 with layouts - if it does not take too much time.

As for the mallit keyboard and all other keyboards - i dont think anything but 
fullscreen keyboard can comfortably work on FR/GTA04. The display is small and 
the bevel around it makes it even smaller - you cant use fingers to touch near 
edges. These keyboards are designed for smarthones with 4 inch display and no 
bevel.

Btw i am very happy with the current fullscreen keyboard - i think it beats 
all onscreen keyboards i have ever used.

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

Matthias Apitz — 2012-05-11T11:14:14

El día Friday, May 11, 2012 a las 01:06:02PM +0200, Patryk Benderz escribió:


Hi Patryk,

Sorry, but I completely disagree. Have you watched the movie in YouTube?
It took me also twice to realize the great advantage: Radek's kbd is
transparent and shows only the letter to touch, around the letter it is
transparent and you can overlay with the kbd any application which
receives the chars. This is exactly what we need on the small FR screen.

Hope that someone will port it to SHR

matthias