http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/49002 <pre>On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:38:56 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi &lt;ebassi&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: Absolutely correct. What can be improved is the key-combination for switching between the tabs. For a weird, unknown reason, we don't rely on Ctrl+Tab for switching between tabs in most applications. That will fit much more in the expectations of the users, than Ctrl+PGUP/PGDN or even worse Ctrl+Shift+PGUP/PGDN. Furthermore it will follow the convention of Alt+Tab and is also more "keyboard-friendly". Hitting Ctrl+Tab is easier than searching Ctrl+PGUP/PGDN, especially since a lot of manufacturers started to move around PGUP/PGDN (most ot them seem to search a ideal place for it...). e.g. Ctrl+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab could be used aside of Ctrl+PGUP/PGDN, which won't hurt people how are already aware of the current behaviour of GNOME. _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list</pre> bugs 2013-06-18T08:40:31 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/49001 <pre> if you publish it somewhere, I'll have a look _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list</pre> Luc Pionchon 2013-06-18T02:32:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/49000 <pre>Hi Emmanuele, Le 17/06/2013 18:38, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : YMMV. I don't use many tabs at once, a few for terminals. A dozen for firefox. Once all tabs don't fit on the tab bar, there are too many of them for me. But I totally understand your point. This is not for the previews in the shell that I miss that, but more for Alt+Tab, though for consistency's sake, both features would be impacted. Just forget it. _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list</pre> Luis Menina 2013-06-17T21:09:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48999 <pre>I agree we shouldn't scroll through tabs with Alt-Tab, but I can understand where the problem comes from. Very frequently I click on a link in Evolution or "open containing folder" or a file downloaded with Epiphany, and instead of having a new Nautilus/Epiphany tab open, the result is a whole new window. This is very annoying and creates multiple windows. Another problem is exactly that multi-multi-multi-tab problem: You have tons of tabs. Me too. Sometimes I have two Epiphany windows, just so that I can split the tabs into "categories". If we could categorize tabs or have them in a hierarchical structure in the app itself, we'd have less mess on the desktop. I think the points mentioned are worth a thought and some clever design. I believe Gnome is going in the right direction, but focusing on a single source of content is good only for the simple home user / content consumer. When working, one needs to be able to work with many windows and tabs effectively. To be honest, I've been using Gnome 3.4.2 </pre> אנטולי קרסנר 2013-06-17T18:26:18 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48998 <pre>hi Luis; On 17 June 2013 17:09, Luis Menina &lt;liberforce&lt; at &gt;freeside.fr&gt; wrote: you really, *really* don't want this. I currently have two Firefox windows open, the first with 41 tabs (after I did a couple rounds of garbage collection, last night I was at around 70), the other with ~50 tabs. then I have four or five terminal instances, and within each I have between 3 and 7 tabs. tabs are cheaper than windows, so people *do* use a ton of those. the selector would become incredibly tiny, and hard to navigate — *especially* on low-resolution displays like a netbook. ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list</pre> Emmanuele Bassi 2013-06-17T16:38:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48997 <pre>Hi, Le 30/05/2013 17:52, אנטולי קרסנר a écrit : You're not alone. I still have trouble getting the right window in the foreground. I use GNOME on a netbook (1024×600), and on a desktop with a 16/9 screen. I like to always have my windows maximized. Window selection using mouse ============================= I have the « there are several windows of the same application open, and they look alike » problem. 50% of the time, I click on the wrong one. This has been somewhat improved on 3.8 with the bigger previews but doesn't competely fix the problem. Sometimes that's even the wrong app, but the preview is similar enough (heck, everything look grey-ish) that I get confused and select the wrong one. I miss the icon of the application on the preview. Window selection using keyboard =============================== I very often use Alt+Tab to select my windows. A frequent use case is: 1. use application A 2. switch to application B (email, something else) 3. switch back to application A and resum</pre> Luis Menina 2013-06-17T16:09:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48996 <pre>A friendly reminder from the release team: the 3.9.3 release is today. If you have some new code that could benefit from exposure to early testing, please release a tarball that we can include in 3.9.3. In particular, if you haven't done any 3.9.x release yet, now would be a great time to start doing so. Matthias </pre> Matthias Clasen 2013-06-17T12:50:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48995 <pre>Hey Luc and list, I've been planning and designing a language for data modeling and description, somewhat based on concepts borrowed from Python (which I learned in the process). I'm now writing a tutorial, and it looks quite simple and straight-forward, and the language is very simple. Very soon I'll finish the tutorial and I'd like to have it reviewed and hear comments and advice. Is anyone interested? With a polished language I'll be able to proceed and write a parser and command-line tools, which can serve (with their underlying library) as a base for larger systems and GUI app integration (Gnote, GTG, etc.) regards, Anatoly On ד', 2013-05-29 at 21:10 +0300, Luc Pionchon wrote: _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list</pre> אנטולי קרסנר 2013-06-17T06:43:23 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48994 <pre>Hello, On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:33:53AM +0200, Stefan Sauer wrote: It is still available at: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/docs/devel/guides/programming_guidelines/ But I don't know if it is exactly the same document as was available at developer.gnome.org. Sébastien </pre> Sébastien Wilmet 2013-06-16T10:24:01 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48993 <pre>hi, once upon a time we had "http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/book1.html". We link to that from the gstreamer manual as a recommended reading. Can anyone suggest a replacement? Stefan </pre> Stefan Sauer 2013-06-16T09:33:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48992 <pre>Hello all, Let's continue our work towards 3.10 with a new milestone; next week we're releasing 3.9.3 and we need your tarballs, get them ready! Tarballs are due on 2013-06-17 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.9.3 unstable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules which were proposed for inclusion should try to follow the unstable schedule so everyone can test them. Please make sure that your tarballs will be uploaded before Monday 23:59 UTC: tarballs uploaded later than that will probably be too late to get in 3.9.3. If you are not able to make a tarball before this deadline or if you think you'll be late, please send a mail to the release team and we'll find someone to roll the tarball for you! For more information about 3.9, the full schedule, the official module lists and the proposed module lists, please see our colorful 3.9 page: http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable For a quick overview of the GNOME schedule, please see: http://live.gnome.org/Schedule Cheers, Fred </pre> Frederic Peters 2013-06-14T14:51:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48991 <pre>Heya, gnome-bluetooth[1] and gnome-shell[2] have been ported to use BlueZ 5, the new major version of the Bluetooth handling daemon and utilities[3], and will available in GNOME 3.10. gnome-user-share is still being worked on [4] as it requires some obexd/bluetoothd changes. NetworkManager port is also in progress. PulseAudio already supports both BlueZ 4 and Bluez 5. Cheers [1]: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685717 [2]: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700891 [3]: http://www.bluez.org/bluez-5-api-introduction-and-porting-guide/ and http://lwn.net/Articles/531133/ [4]: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694347 </pre> Bastien Nocera 2013-06-14T09:42:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48990 <pre>On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:54:21 +0200, Rodrigo Moya &lt;rodrigo&lt; at &gt;gnome-db.org&gt; wrote: (...) Yes i had this in mind, it's probably quick to implement and data is already there, we just have to pick it up. I did not mean fooling the plain text, just leveraging the actual online providers, for example "VJOURNAL calendar components can be related to each other or to a "VEVENT" or to a "VTODO" calendar component, with the "RELATED-TO" property." Pierre-Yves </pre> Pierre-Yves Luyten 2013-06-12T15:27:04 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48989 <pre>VJOURNAL spec was designed with plain text (without any format) in mind for the description of the journal entry/note. That's a big drawback, and even though you can in theory add formatted text (like Tomboy's pseudo HTML/XML), it will break cooperation with other VJOURNAL software, as they will be unable to display the formatted text. Not sure if you are really seeking that, but it's important to have it in mind. On the other hand, supporting VJOURNAL for notes gives you instant access to every calendar/tasks backend supported in e-d-s, as the protocol/format/etc is the same as for calendars and tasks. cheers </pre> Rodrigo Moya 2013-06-12T14:54:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48988 <pre>On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:32:26 -0500, Erick Pérez Castellanos &lt;erickpc&lt; at &gt;gnome.org&gt; wrote: Hi! here is a ping request for comments if any: * Contacts has already a super cool implementation * Calendar has too =) , and shall integrate tasks. =&gt; Remaining one : memos, ie, VJOURNAL. Not sure anyone on earth use it... Do you think VJOURNAL is for gnome-calendar? since it has start date / end date? Or rather for Notes application? since its notes (this one is my POV, but not a strong opinion)... In such case I'll look for implementing this on my side. btw, I think Tracker has an extension for mails and contacts, but not events / tasks/ memos. Is it something you already considered or are interested in? if no one ever started discussing this i'll ask feedback on IRC or desktop-devel-list. I simply don't know if that's something already thought. Pierre-Yves PS : Glad to see lot of commits on your ui-rewrite branch! thanks for your work! _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-lis</pre> Pierre-Yves Luyten 2013-06-12T10:32:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48986 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/13 20:47, Pacho Ramos wrote: gah, I tagged that snapshot, forgot to ask dcbw to upload a new tarball... should get fixed today. - -- Aleksander -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlG11CcACgkQgxIgkKLogl5JKQCg2qu2kSHRDLf91xidO9xcC9cS AHIAnj0z89Br7TmXz23MJ2nW2DFp952z =gadD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> Aleksander Morgado 2013-06-10T13:27:03 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48985 <pre>El vie, 07-06-2013 a las 21:03 +0000, Dan Williams escribió: [...] Looks like it checks for ModemManager-0.7.991 that I couldn't find yet in gnome.org mirrors :/ Is this normal? Thanks! _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list</pre> Pacho Ramos 2013-06-09T18:47:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48984 <pre>Oops, s/make clean/make check </pre> Ma Xiaojun 2013-04-06T06:29:19 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48983 <pre>On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Federico Mena Quintero &lt;federico&lt; at &gt;gnome.org&gt; wrote: There seem to have another duplicate bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599730 Thank you for your work! I don't know what you mean by "it doesn't work" As I tried on an Ubuntu 12.04 box. There some glitches during the execution of autogen.sh, seemingly ignorable. Some "Could not write XXX" during the build (make), doesn't sound good. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681985/ 3 out of 103 tests failed during "make clean" Thank you for your information. </pre> Ma Xiaojun 2013-04-06T06:27:32 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48982 <pre>FYI, as noted in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygtk/+bug/981376/comments/4 There is older bug with patch but unfortunately seems unnoticed at all. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660216 </pre> Ma Xiaojun 2013-04-04T17:37:51 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/48981 <pre>On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Dieter Verfaillie &lt;dieterv&lt; at &gt;optionexplicit.be&gt; wrote: Thank you, E-mail sent. </pre> Ma Xiaojun 2013-04-04T18:07:58 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.gnome.desktop