gmane.comp.games.globulation.devel

Re: hi

whereis Mykake — 2012-12-31T19:01:10

Leo,

<< I guess if glob2 ever gets revived it will be a rewrite. In less than 
10k LOC I would guess. >>
If any of the old developers are up for it, I can jump right in.
I guess lot of the original developers are better c++ programmers now. :-)

-wimk.

On 12/31/2012 12:05, Leo Wandersleb wrote:

Re: hi

whereis Mykake — 2012-12-31T18:38:00

Thanks Leo for the response.
<< As I understand you, you want to learn from code but essentially know 
how to code in other languages.>>
No. I want to learn OO deployed in C++ in Linux environment.Preferably 
with multi-threading.

<< glob2 has 100000 LOC and most likely none of it is best practice. >>
100K loc is about estimated size of my project. So i got interested in 
glob2.
also "what we are trying to achieve by the program" is easier to 
visualize in a game project than say in a language library project.
It is easier to see the effect on the overall program by changing some 
part of the code.
also the AI in glob2 got me interested.

I wish you are others can recommend some other project which has better 
OO practices.
I will search for individual mutex/ singelton examples. But will prefer 
a whole project where it is deployed.

<< If you want to actually work on glob2 though, you are more than 
welcome to revive this beautiful game. >>

It is beautiful. I am so far with only 3rd tutorial. But i am 
vi

Re: hi

Leo Wandersleb — 2012-12-31T17:05:58

As I understand you, you want to learn from code but essentially know how to
code in other languages. glob2 has 100000 LOC and most likely none of it is best
practice. Why do you pick c++? If you know it is the tool of choice, try to
naively create your tool and improve it one aspect at a time. There are good
examples on OO designe and mutexes that don't mean digging into 100k LOC if you
just google for mutex c++ or singleton c++ or whatever you want to use.

If you want to actually work on glob2 though, you are more than welcome to
revive this beautiful game. I would say it is in a state of brokenness where the
new features don't justify to go back to any slightly more stable older version.
I guess if glob2 ever gets revived it will be a rewrite. In less than 10k LOC I
would guess.

Leo

On 12/31/2012 03:59 PM, whereis Mykake wrote:

Re: hi

whereis Mykake — 2012-12-31T14:59:25

Thanks for the replies Bradley and Valentin. at least i got few replies. 
The forum is not that dead. :-)

for the new algorithms to apply on glob2's market, i have to go through 
the existing algorithms and other code.
I am not certain if algorithms used in financial market back testing 
analysis/forward predictions can be used in context with glob2. but 
there could be other algorithms that can be tried.
I mean i am very new to glob2's code, so i should not comment on how to 
do that so early.

I liked that, there are only worker/explorer/warrior and NO managers.

Which other open source code project for c++/Linux you can suggest that 
has good OO concepts deployed? (preferably with multi-threading.)
Not too big project, so that new comers to C++ can digest it.

regards,
wimk.

On 12/30/2012 20:08, Bradley Arsenault wrote:

Re: hi

Bradley Arsenault — 2012-12-31T01:08:08

I agree, I wouldn't consider Globulation 2 to be a good example of
general programming technique. It was originally built by programmers
migrating from C, and then later I maintained it for a couple of years
and I was still relatively new at programming during that period. The
project does have some good examples of AI programming though.

Brad

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Valentin Lorentz <progval< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: hi

Valentin Lorentz — 2012-12-31T00:59:05

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whereis Mykake <whereis.mykake< at >gmail.com> wrote:


I'm glad to hear that (except in means your personality is... oops, no trolling here :) )


I can provide you raw logs of connection times in the last year(s?) if you want to use them.


As far as I can tell, the code is very dirty, and the few debugging I had to do in order to run the YOG server was painful.
But I'm a newbie in C++.


So basically, you want to apply new algorithms on glob2's markets?


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Re: hi

Bradley Arsenault — 2012-12-31T00:51:01

Project is dead as far as I know.

Brad

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, whereis Mykake
<whereis.mykake< at >gmail.com> wrote:

hi

whereis Mykake — 2012-12-30T19:50:45

Hi friends,

I am very new to the gaming world. Been in IT for more than 15 years, 
but never in to Games.
Also i am new to open source project.
I am mainly in to scripting languages, but got in to c++ about 6 months 
back. C++ is amazing. It fits to my personality.
I was looking in to c++ good medium size open source project on Linux 
and i found glob2.

Amazing game. It has most of the things i was looking for.
Exactly: No heavy graphics, strategy based, AI driven, no 
micromanagement, c++ specific, OO driven, and Linux.

Just curious to know how active this project is from development point 
of view.
also how much active glob2 on ysagoon server?
Even if it is abandoned, I can still learn a lot by browsing through the 
code. It is bit harder without support.
either way, thanks to all the developers and other contributors who did 
a fantastic work.

Foe those who want more info:
I want to develop stock market simulation, back testing engine, strategy 
performance analysis, fully automated order entry manage

Re: Migration status

Leo Wandersleb — 2012-07-02T22:08:11

not that I … yes, sure:
hg.globulation2.org :)
not sure though who really uses it or where it pointed to exactly.
I just yesterday made sure it is in sync with my bitbucket repository and with a
distributed version control system a central repository that nobody is
officially responsible for is kind of pointless anyway, so I don't see the need
to fix that but maybe to fix all the links that point to it.
Recently I guess my bb repo was more popular with programmers anyway, although
it was always in sync.

Regards,

Leo

Re: Migration status

Baptiste — 2012-07-02T21:19:39

Iirc, the IRC channel was hosted at OFTC (irc.oftc.net). The
irc.globulation2.org domain was apparently only redirecting to OFTC,
though I don't really know at which level.

The simplest would be a CNAME record, though it might possibly break
SSL certificates (wrong host name).

Having access to the previous DNS server config would probably be
helpful.

Re: Migration status

Valentin Lorentz — 2012-07-02T20:35:49

Fixed (again, it may take time to apply).

I did not have the previous DNS config, so I had to write it from
scratch. I was not aware there was such domains. Is there any other
subdomain?

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Re: Migration status

Leo Wandersleb — 2012-07-02T17:49:54

oh, one thing I have no idea how it should work or what broke it:
I used to chat using irc.globulation2.org. I'm pretty sure I had no IRC
something on my server but this is broke now. IRC is pretty vital for glob2.

Anybody knows what went broke here??

Regards,

Leo Wandersleb


On 07/02/2012 01:46 PM, Leo Wandersleb wrote:
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Re: Migration status

Leo Wandersleb — 2012-07-02T17:46:40

it already does work :)

Thanx!

On 07/02/2012 01:35 PM, Valentin Lorentz wrote:

Re: Migration status

Valentin Lorentz — 2012-07-02T17:35:22

Done. Should be working in a few hours, once DNS servers refreshed
their cache.

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Re: Migration status

Valentin Lorentz — 2012-07-02T17:31:45

I already have (and use) ejabberd, but configured for progval.net. I
will try to set it up for globulation2.org.

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Re: Migration status

Leo Wandersleb — 2012-07-02T17:04:21

Thanks to Valentin for your server.
Thanks to Stéphane for changing the DNS.

Globulation2.org moved.

Actually I realized it due to my jabber address giszmo< at >globulation2.org not
working anymore. I guess, only one other guy and I used … well … had such an
address. Valentin if you feel lucky installing ejabberd (I found it surprisingly
easy), it would be nice but I consider it not a priority at all. I use
leowandersleb.de for my main jabber thingy anyway.

Regards,

Leo

On 07/02/2012 01:33 AM, Leo Wandersleb wrote:
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Re: Migration status

Leo Wandersleb — 2012-07-02T05:33:34

Ok, I just went through all of http://glob2.progval.net/wiki/Special:AllPages
and deleted 13 pages http://glob2.progval.net/wiki/Special:Log/delete

I did not run into any big surprises.

On 07/02/2012 12:39 AM, Valentin Lorentz wrote:

Re: Migration status

Valentin Lorentz — 2012-07-02T04:39:19

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Leo Wandersleb <leo.wandersleb< at >gmx.de> wrote:


The only thing we can do is to find translators. I can do it for French translations, but not for other languages.


Didn't I already did that in General news?


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Re: Migration status

Leo Wandersleb — 2012-07-02T04:34:12

On 07/02/2012 12:31 AM, Leo Wandersleb wrote:

nevermind. I will just reorganize it so the date that popps into your eyes is
not 2009.

Re: Migration status

Leo Wandersleb — 2012-07-02T04:31:58

Hi Valentin,

I'm just going through some (all?) pages and I'm a bit worried about the
localized versions. Luckily people always first get the english main page, as
the other main page versions are even more outdated.

Mind putting some news update about the server move on the main page? reading
some recent activity is less repelling than reading "2009". ;)

Regards,

Leo

On 06/30/2012 06:19 AM, Valentin Lorentz wrote:
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Re: Migration status

Leo Wandersleb — 2012-07-02T22:08:11

not that I … yes, sure:
hg.globulation2.org :)
not sure though who really uses it or where it pointed to exactly.
I just yesterday made sure it is in sync with my bitbucket repository and with a
distributed version control system a central repository that nobody is
officially responsible for is kind of pointless anyway, so I don't see the need
to fix that but maybe to fix all the links that point to it.
Recently I guess my bb repo was more popular with programmers anyway, although
it was always in sync.

Regards,

Leo