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    <title>Re: Mission-Control tests fail without connman being online</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6066</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
I would be happy to review patches on Bugzilla for
--enable-installed-tests, particularly if they are compatible with what
Colin Walters is advocating for GNOME (analogous to CITA but with a
.desktop-style file per test instead of tests.xml).

I would prefer tests in a subdirectory of ${libdir} and/or ${datadir} by
default (the latter is only OK if everything is architecture-independent).

If you want the directory to be configurable, I'd prefer that to work
like Gabble's plugins:

    if test "x$pluginexeclibdir" = x; then
      pluginexeclibdir='${libdir}/telepathy/gabble-0/lib'
    fi
    AC_ARG_VAR([pluginexeclibdir])

which means you can "./configure ... pluginexeclibdir=/foo/bar" and that
will be enough. Strictly speaking, the variable name should include
"exec" if its contents will contain any native code (so perhaps
installedtestexecdir or something). It could default to
${pkglibdir}/tests, maybe?

Regards,
    S
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon McVittie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-07T13:06:05</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6065">
    <title>Re: Mission-Control tests fail without connman being online</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6065</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

On 07.05.2013 15:40, Simon McVittie wrote:

No good reason :-) just a matter of taste. Mer/Nemo decided to have 
tests in /opt/tests/packagename/. But is not a hard requirement. Since 
we now check with rpm -ql where the tests.xml file is of a tests package.

I also patch other tp-* packages, to make the tests installable. Would 
you guys be open for patches to make that configurable (target) and 
optional?


Yes that would be easier in .spec than to patch :-)

br
Reto
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Reto Zingg</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-07T12:53:59</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6064">
    <title>Re: Mission-Control tests fail without connman being online</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6064</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
No, when MC is started "realistically", it will see the real system bus,
unless you take steps for it not to do so.


The default is for DBUS_SYSTEM_BUS_ADDRESS to be unset, which results in
libdbus (and GDBus, etc.) using a compile-time default, usually
unix:/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket. This is the real system bus.

    S
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon McVittie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-07T12:43:55</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6063">
    <title>Re: Mission-Control tests fail without connman being online</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6063</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
This will break any future things in MC that need the genuine system
bus, but OK; "make check" would also break, so we'd need to deal with
that one way or another.


Is there any particular reason for using a different location? If there
is a good reason, then we should change it or make it configurable.

Patching shouldn't be needed anyway, you can "make mctestsdir=/foo",
"make install mctestsdir=/foo" if necessary.

    S
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon McVittie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-07T12:40:15</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6062">
    <title>Re: Mission-Control tests fail without connman being online</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6062</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

On 07.05.2013 15:08, Simon McVittie wrote:

it seems that tp-m-c started from dbus does not get that! I added some 
output to run-mc.sh, but DBUS_SYSTEM_BUS_ADDRESS was empty! Seems dbus 
strips some env vars out?

So I added DBUS_SYSTEM_BUS_ADDRESS="$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" to 
run-mc.sh now it works, see patch[1].


yes --enable-installed-tests is set, just the install directory I patch 
to an other location.


it seems with the above mentioned patch it just works now?! Yes we run 
it in similar manner as CITA.


I noticed that bug this morning. Let's see what it changes :-)

Thanks and best regards
Reto

[1]
https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=nemo-fix-system-dbus-for-tests.patch&amp;amp;package=telepathy-mission-control&amp;amp;project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw&amp;amp;rev=21dd75c1aa7a06f849485c851fccf911
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Reto Zingg</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-07T12:33:48</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6061">
    <title>Re: Mission-Control tests fail without connman being online</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6061</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
This is how it works during "make check". It emulates both ConnMan and
NetworkManager (simultaneously!), in fact. We set
DBUS_SYSTEM_BUS_ADDRESS="$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" when executing MC,
so that MC thinks the fake session bus is the real system bus.


This is how it works during "make check".


Is this using --enable-installed-tests (which you might remember us
using for CITA in Maemo)? If so, you will probably have to support it
yourself if you want it. The configuration we test ourselves (i.e. the
one I ran when making the releases) is "make check" and "make
distcheck", running the tests inside the built tree. This is also
somewhat more thorough than the installed tests, because we use a debug
version of MC that can be manipulated by the tests.

It is entirely possible that the installed tests are broken in
situations where ConnMan doesn't think you have connectivity: MC
(correctly!) refuses to go online there. You might need to run the MC
tests with a fake ConnMan that always says "yes, I am online"&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon McVittie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-07T12:08:48</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6060">
    <title>Mission-Control tests fail without connman being online</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6060</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I have some problems with running the TP-Mission-Control tests.
Version is 5.15.0, and packages are from Nemo[1].

I run the tests with the run-test.sh script, so it set's up own dbus 
session bus. As far as I can tell it does use that one (I don't see e.g. 
anything on user session/system dbus).

Tests run fine and pass on device and virtual images, when connman is 
running and has a connection (is online).

But when:
   - connman is not running (virtual image)
   - connman is running but no WLAN/3g network is available (maintained 
by connmand, just usb0 connection but not maintained by connman 
(--nodevice=usb*))

then many tests fail. It already fails during "test set up".

example:
dispatcher/vanishing-client.py

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/opt/tests/telepathy-mission-control/twisted/mctest.py", line 133, 
in exec_test_deferred
fun(queue, bus, mc)
File 
"/opt/tests/telepathy-mission-control/twisted/dispatcher/vanishing-client.py", 
line 37, in test
conn = enable_fakecm_account(q, bus,&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Reto Zingg</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-07T07:55:09</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6059">
    <title>Announce: telepathy-mission-control 5.15.0</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6059</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;The “any other citizen of the Queen” release.

This starts a development branch. It adds features, and probably
exciting new bugs too.

Running this version of Mission Control for the first time will
automatically migrate some account data to a new format. If you
subsequently downgrade to an older version, it will no longer understand
all account data. Taking a backup copy of
~/.local/share/telepathy/mission-control before you upgrade is recommended.

tarball:
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-mission-control/telepathy-mission-control-5.15.0.tar.gz
signature:
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-mission-control/telepathy-mission-control-5.15.0.tar.gz.asc

Requirements:

• GLib 2.32 is now required.
• The regression tests now require Python 2.6.

Deprecations:

• McpAccountStorage::altered, which appears to have never worked, is now
  deprecated (fd.o #28288). Emit ::altered-one instead.

• mcp_account_storage_iface_set_priority() etc. are now deprecated.
  Use, fo&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon McVittie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-03T14:37:04</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6058">
    <title>ANNOUNCE: Empathy 3.9.1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6058</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Empathy 3.9.1 is now available for download from:
http://download.gnome.org/sources/empathy/3.9/

6a07b9a302f4f5f8b82fb5fba552c858  empathy-3.9.1.tar.xz


What is it?
===========
Empathy is a messaging program which supports text, voice, and video
chat and file transfers over many different protocols.  Empathy is the
default chat client in GNOME, and is based on the Telepathy framework,
making it easier for other GNOME applications to integrate collaboration
functionality.

You can visit the project web site:
http://live.gnome.org/Empathy

What's New?
===========
Bugs fixed:
 - Fixed #692160, Updated Icon Names (B.Prathibha)
 - Fixed #697214, call-window: Remember that the audio output has been
added (Olivier Crête)
 - Fixed #697302, Spelling mistake: "You need to setup an
account..." (SandipTiwari)
 - Fixed #699017, libempathy: Fix build by adding missing math.h header
(Stef Walter)
 - Fixed #673775, The icon for audio call in the help is wrong.
(Ekaterina Gerasimova)
 - Fixed #677549, "Link Contacts" user&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Guillaume Desmottes</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-03T13:04:44</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6057">
    <title>Announce: telepathy-mission-control 5.14.1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6057</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;The “implicit maze” release.

tarball:
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-mission-control/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1.tar.gz
signature:
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-mission-control/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1.tar.gz.asc

Fixes:

• Only ignore passwords stored in our old gnome-keyring location if
  Empathy has actually copied them to its new location, fixing use of a
  gnome-keyring-enabled MC version with no Empathy or other
  SASLAuthentication handler (e.g. under Sugar). (fd.o #59468, Simon)

• Build successfully with Automake 1.13 (fd.o #59605, Nuno Araujo)

• Isolate regression tests better (fd.o #63119, Simon McVittie)

• Respect NOCONFIGURE in autogen.sh (fd.o #57165, Cosimo Cecchi)
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon McVittie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-03T11:24:26</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6056">
    <title>Re: Announce: telepathy-idle 0.1.15</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6056</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
For the record, this is now called CVE-2007-6746.


This is fixed in 0.1.16.

    S
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon McVittie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-01T15:51:16</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6055">
    <title>Announce: telepathy-idle 0.1.16</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6055</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;The “smörgåsbord of crashes” release.

tarball:
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-idle/telepathy-idle-0.1.16.tar.gz
signature:
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-idle/telepathy-idle-0.1.16.tar.gz.asc
git: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-idle

Enhancements:

• Add support for interactive TLS certificate validation, fixing the
  regression in 0.1.15 that self-signed certificates could not be used
  any more. (fd.o #57130; Sjoerd, Will)
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon McVittie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-01T15:49:02</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6054">
    <title>Re: Empathy, SIP, and XMPP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6054</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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On 1/7/13 3:50 PM, Travis Reitter wrote:

Hi Travis. A very belated thanks for your feedback!


Emil has already incorporated much of your feedback into the spec, but
I've also just added the second sentence to the following paragraph:

        In addition to discovering phone numbers from vCards, clients
        may also check for alternative communication methods as
        advertised in XMPP presence broadcasts and Personal
        Eventing Protocol nodes as described in &amp;lt;xref target="XEP-0152"&amp;gt;
        XEP-0152: Reachability Addresses&amp;lt;/xref&amp;gt;.  However, these
        indications are merely hints, and a receiving client ought not
        associate a SIP address and an XMPP address unless it has some
        way to verify the association (e.g., the vCard of the XMPP
        account lists the SIP address and the vCard of the SIP account
        lists the XMPP address).

(I've also corrected the spelling of your last name.)


Yes, we've published several versions&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Peter Saint-Andre</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-30T02:20:10</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6053">
    <title>Re: Offline cache</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6053</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;El lun, 22-04-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Travis Reitter escribió:

This could be a step towards a folksd.


How necessary is this? I think we should only add something like this in
response to profiling, once the other optimisations (such as an
aggregation cache) have been implemented. It might turn out to be
unnecessary.


Not that I can think of.

Philip

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http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/telepathy
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Philip Withnall</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-27T15:11:46</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6052">
    <title>Announce: telepathy-idle 0.1.15</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6052</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;The “secure by default“ release.

This fixes missing certificate validation in IRC-over-SSL (CVE ID not
yet issued). Upgrading is recommended.

Distributors who ship versions 0.1.11-0.1.14 can correct this flaw by
removing the call to g_socket_client_set_tls_validation_flags(), similar
to [1].

Versions 0.1.10 and older do not validate certificates at all; no patch
is available for these releases.

tarball:
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-idle/telepathy-idle-0.1.15.tar.gz
signature:
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-idle/telepathy-idle-0.1.15.tar.gz.asc
git: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-idle

Fixes:

• Validate TLS certificates properly, preventing man-in-the-middle
  attacks. (fd.o#63810, Simon)

  This will be a regression for users of IRC-over-SSL servers/proxies
  that do not have a certificate trusted by system-wide CA
  configuration; they will no longer be able to connect. If someone
  implements fd.o #57130, that will provide the ability &lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon McVittie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-24T16:07:49</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6051">
    <title>Re: Announcing Folks2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6051</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

Note that the Folks potential matches API is already based upon Marco's
plugin (at least, the name-matching part). Recent versions of Gnome
Contacts use it to suggest linking the currently-viewed Individual to
other personas.

Regards,
-Travis

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http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/telepathy
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Travis Reitter</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-22T20:05:44</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6050">
    <title>Re: Announcing Folks2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6050</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Good to hear about that huge speed-up. Have you tried it with a Google
account in EDS with ~6,000 contacts? That's the slowest use case for
Folks currently. See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689549

Just glancing over the API very briefly, a few things stand out:

* I'm assuming your "merging" is non-destructive as it is in Folks. If
  so, I'd be careful to always refer to it as "linking" which apparently
  is much clearer to users (that's why we've used that language
  ourselves) and obviously it's preferable to actually-destructive
  merging, as we know from Maemo. Since it's really a single concept in
  both the implementation and UI, we might as well be consistent with
  the language

* I recommend adding API for favorites early on. We underestimated how
  important that is in Folks, I think. Outside of roster-based chat
  clients, favorites are often what you care the most about (and
  certainly want to prioritize over the rest of the roster/address
  book).

* And I'd recommend search fun&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Travis Reitter</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-22T20:03:53</dc:date>
  </item>
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    <title>Re: Offline cache</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6049</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Agreed completely.


I would be happy to move this functionality from Folks into its
backends' implementations. That seems to be the proper place for the
caches to exist, since they're generally necessary for those components
on their own anyhow.

EDS already has its own cache and we just need the vCard and avatar
caches for Telepathy you describe above before we could rely upon that
and drop the caching in Folks, I think.

I think the only caching Folks itself should need would be:

* link/aggregation cache (fdo#687671). This wouldn't be a concern for
  Telepathy itself, but I'm just listing it for completeness. Start-up
  aggregation for Folks is a lot of repeated work which is mostly
  redundant for almost all Folks client runs between Telepathy account
  adds/removes (so, ~all runs).

* (possibly) the core vCard (mainly alias/nickname/Full Name) + avatar
  for favorites in a format that can be displayed extremely quickly.
  This would be an optimization around worst-case performance risks of
  the full &lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Travis Reitter</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-22T19:11:35</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: XMPP: OpenPGP SASL mechanism</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6048</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;That is my opinion. Opinions may differ. :-)

I think we could have an interesting conversation about this on the XMPP
standards list, and you might find some other folks who want to
implement this on clients or servers. Personally I'd love to see wider
support for TLS-PGP, because it would help us get rid of password-based
authentication. There might be some challenges with key management (how
do I tell the XMPP server that I've generated a new key?), but key
management is always interesting. :-)

Peter
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    <dc:creator>Peter Saint-Andre</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-17T16:02:43</dc:date>
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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6047</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Indeed.


Sure. Just subscribed.
But at this point I guess I should go ahead with RFC 6091;
implementing a SASL protocol for something which is clearly (and
should be, actually) addressed by TLS would be useless don't you
think?

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    <dc:creator>Daniele Ricci</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-17T15:57:30</dc:date>
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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/6046</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Sure. You could do something like secure remote password, but if you
really want to use PGP then RFC 6091 is the right way to go (IMHO).
Perhaps we could discuss this topic on the standards-k2lrwn5/VE4&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org list?

http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards

Peter
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    <dc:creator>Peter Saint-Andre</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-17T15:52:12</dc:date>
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