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Re: [Tiki-devel] Failed to Warn 'edit confict' with PluginWysiwygor PluginSheet in wiki pages

Jonny Bradley — 2013-05-19T15:56:59

Hi Xavi and all

I had a look at implementing the edit conflict mechanism for the {wysiwyg} plugin but it's not that simple, as it would mean creating a new AJAX service to handle it, and so a little too much of a change for 11.0 at this stage i think.

Probably a possibility for 11.1+ remind me again when we're past 11.0.

Something similar would be needed for the spreadsheets (and probably should be implemented for editplugin too) so worth doing before too long, i agree.

Thanks (as always) for testing! :)

jonny



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Re: [Tiki-devel] wysiwyg edit conflict

luciash — 2013-05-19T15:00:14

Hola Xavi,

On 05/19/2013 01:10 PM, Xavier de Pedro wrote:

Regarding the edit losses I have found out the culprit was the 
"experimental" marked preference in one of my client's Tiki 9.2 sites 
called "Use Wiki syntax in WYSIWYG".
When we disabled that preference the mysterious save fails stopped to 
happen.
Since then I am trying to avoid any "experimental" feature as a vampire 
tries to avoid garlic... :-p

luci



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Re: [Tiki-devel] bug tracker in dev.t.o failing

Jonny Bradley — 2013-05-19T13:29:21

Thanks Xavi

Maybe someone could backport http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/45948 to 10.x? (and i'll fix some new ones ;)

dev.t.o gets updated regularly i believe, so the fix should come though in a couple of days.

jb

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Re: [Tiki-devel] bug tracker in dev.t.o failing

Xavier de Pedro — 2013-05-19T12:27:24

Just an addendum about this issue:

I tried to report another bug through 
http://dev.tiki.org/Bug+Tracker+Input+Form and I still got this error:
(yes, I guess because dev.t.o is not yet updated to use your fix, etc, 
no problems; keep reading below, since the issue doesn't show up using 
the tracker itself)
---------------
Fatal error: Call to a member function generate() on a non-object in 
/path/templates_c/caaaf648279bfb8df81cf1d5c51702bffb^c259572a72e0c5447cd3b11c73d56d3d4dd5ad15.file.antibot.tpl.php 
on line/54/Call Stack #TimeMemoryFunctionLocation 10.00251031344{main}( 
)../tiki-index.php*:*0 20.281333303840WikiRenderer->runSetups( 
)../tiki-index.php*:*635 30.297334935192WikiRenderer->setupPage( 
)../renderlib.php*:*92 40.297834949272WikiLib->get_parse( 
)../renderlib.php*:*322 50.298334961368TikiLib->parse_data( 
)../wikilib.php*:*478 60.307436583296ParserLib->parse_data( 
)../tikilib.php*:*295 70.307536589480ParserLib->parse_first( 
)../parserlib.php*:*1522 80.325938311288ParserLib->plugin_execute

Re: [Tiki-devel] registration on tv.tiki.org

Torsten Fabricius — 2013-05-19T11:20:19

Hi Daniel,

Am 19.05.2013 07:43, schrieb Daniel:
...

the registration on tiki.org is moderated to prevent spambot 
registrations. So it needs up to a few hours until the validation mail 
goes out (in rare cases longer).

You have been validated around 10:00 UTC - have fun with your testaccount.

T.



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Re: [Tiki-devel] Failed to Warn 'edit confict' with PluginWysiwyg or PluginSheet in wiki pages

Xavier de Pedro — 2013-05-19T11:19:09

Hi all again:

I'm resending this thread to the list, after the webinar in May, to 
clarify what was the issue I detected. Since wysiwyg mode was failing 
every now and then for ours users  in two production sites using 9.x 
svn, we tried to use other ways to edit big tables in wiki pages. Table 
builder helper is good for editing tables with a few columns, but when 
the table becomes wider than the screen width, they are not useful for 
end-users willing to edit the table content, or add new columns in the 
middle, etc.

Then we tried PluginWysiwyg, and Spreadsheets. None of them warned on 
edit conflict, so we had to reject them (and our users decided to use 
libreoffice spreadsheets stored somewhere else away from our Tiki).

The old interface of Spreadsheets implemented by lph had the warn on 
edit conflict working (after a patch by sylvie, afair). But this is just 
for history museums. We would need something added back to the JQuery 
Spreadsheet engine that we currently use.

Is anyone available to add

Re: [Tiki-devel] wysiwyg edit conflict

Xavier de Pedro — 2013-05-19T11:10:17

Hi Geoff:

Thanks for yor feedback. I was wrong in my description of the issue the 
other day at the webinar. Sorry for that. Warning on edit conflict  
using wysiwyg for the whole page works (in 11.x, 10.x; luci said in 
another thread that it didn't work for him in 9.x). It was on not this 
exact case what failed for me in 9.x and 10.x, but what failed was 
PluginWysiwyg in Wiki pages (with the simple wiki editor), and Spreadsheets.

I couldn't use full wysiwyg mode in wiki pages in 9.x because of 
spurious edit losses for unknown reasons (edited content was not found 
in the saved page). Confirmed in two different tiki 9 sites, in two 
different server, with two different languages (Catalan in one site, 
Spanish in the other), with a few months of difference.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear that you are using wysiwyg with your clients in 
production sites in tiki9 and/or tiki10 (I guess), and that you don't 
have those rare cases of editions getting lost (not saved in the content 
of the page), which might mean

[Tiki-devel] registration on tv.tiki.org

Daniel — 2013-05-19T05:43:03

If I want to register on tv.tiki.org and I can't.

Of course I can connect with my current tiki profile.  What I mean is that
I want to use a different profile to see how does the site look like in
registered mode.

I used the following url:  http://tv.tiki.com/tiki-register.php and it did
not work

Do I first have to register on tiki.org?

I want / need to create a "regular registered" profile.

Therefore, I sent a new registration under the user name: "danielgauthier"
so that I can use that new user name on the tv.tiki.org side.

If this is not how I should proceed, please tell me an easy way to see in
"registration mode" with a "regular registered" profile the tv.tiki.orgsite.

There are new menus I wish to hide for anonymous, make them visible for
Registered, etc.

Daniel. <https://tiki.org/Developers+map>
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Re: [Tiki-devel] SMARTY Plugin question: Tiki 11

2013-05-18T07:29:19

Hi 
 
Sorry LP not really sure what you mean by this reply - but I think the fix
needs to deal with more than just string types
 
I have meanwhile added this problem to the 'new' bug tracker set up for Tiki
11
 
thanks
 
geoff

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Subject: Re: [Tiki-devel] SMARTY Plugin question: Tiki 11


Hello,

I don't remember anything like that being dropped. Perhaps it was removed
with smarty's upgrade. It is not something I had used before so I looked it
up. The documentation does give some indication that there are performance
implications because the template was not being cached. Perhaps it was
deprecated.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4315046/smarty-evaluate-a-template-stored
-in-a-php-variable


This seems to indicate a string resource type. I couldn't actually find
references to it in the documentaiton.

Re: [Tiki-devel] Tiki talk at FSFE and German slides

Frank Guthausen — 2013-05-17T12:50:41

Uploaded to the Tiki community:
https://tiki.org/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=810&page=UserPagefmg&download=y

Linked at May 2013 Webinar:
https://tiki.org/May+2013+Webinar#st_hour_quick_news

Re: [Tiki-devel] SMARTY Plugin question: Tiki 11

Louis-Philippe Huberdeau — 2013-05-17T11:12:37

Hello,

I don't remember anything like that being dropped. Perhaps it was removed
with smarty's upgrade. It is not something I had used before so I looked it
up. The documentation does give some indication that there are performance
implications because the template was not being cached. Perhaps it was
deprecated.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4315046/smarty-evaluate-a-template-stored-in-a-php-variable

This seems to indicate a string resource type. I couldn't actually find
references to it in the documentaiton...

{include file="string:$var"} seems to work, although I did very limited
testing.

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[Tiki-devel] SMARTY Plugin question: Tiki 11

2013-05-17T11:00:55

Hi 
 
I've been trying to use the SMARTY plugin just like the example in the
documentation where the name parameter is set to 'eval', but I keep getting
an "Incorrect parameter" message.
 
Looking at the code it is just checking whether function.eval.php is in
either the lib/smarty/libs/plugins/ or the lib/smarty_tiki/ folders - and
indeed it is not 
 
So I grep'd the whole Tiki11 code looking for function_eval and nothing is
found.
 
Ditto for a Tiki10 site BUT it is there in a Tiki9 site
 
Has it been dropped/substituted in 10/11 - is this a Smarty upgrade thing?
How do we get the SMARTY Plugin working again?
 
I'm happy to do the code changes if someone can tell me what has changed
 
Thanks
 
geoff
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[Tiki-devel] wysiwyg edit conflict

2013-05-17T10:24:03

Hi Xavi - just to follow up on the discussion last night about whether "edit
conflict" warnings are given with wysiwyg.
 
As I said last night I have never seen any issues with any 9.x version and
this morning I have checked both 10.2 and the current Tiki11 branch (r45969)
and I can't see any problems in these versions either. I checked with
different users, one using FireFox and the other using Chrome and the edit
conflict warning was shown in each case.
 
That probably doesn't help you - but it must be something to do with your
particular set up
 
cheers
 
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[Tiki-devel] (LONG) 1-Raw footage Ottawa video tikiffest 2- Kaltura bug 3- broken ( personal web site project) tracker registration form since October 2012 4- Community announcement

Daniel — 2013-05-17T07:36:25

Hello,

Four  things:

1- Raw footage
i) Tks for confirming that the raw footage is OK.  I did not find Torsten
interview (sorry Torsten), it is not in there.  Yet, I do have Torsten's
interview which, I beleive once I do a bit of editing, will be just fine.

ii) Rick, can you send me a sample of each book you released please?  Or I
have to go through your lulu.com shop?
I want to do interview via skype tests like I mentionned before. I was
hoping to be able to by your  books when we met in Ottawa.  I still want to
do a "Web Interview" and have your books in my possession when we do so.
What would you suggest?

iii) I need a brave volunteer for a "Web TV Interview" tests I need to do.
Using skype, I want to __interview you__ so I can get acquainted with this
new tool that allows me to record and post interviews on line.   I need
someone who is patient and has an hour free over skype this weekend.  The
person will also agree that I place the interview rapidly over YouTube...
even if it is not perfect.  I spea

Re: [Tiki-devel] Need someone with admin previledge to accept HTMLembed

Jean-Marc Libs — 2013-05-17T07:32:26

Done

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[Tiki-devel] Need someone with admin previledge to accept HTML embed

Daniel — 2013-05-17T07:25:50

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Re: [Tiki-devel] bug tracker in dev.t.o

Xavier de Pedro — 2013-05-16T14:38:38

Jonny, fyi, in

http://dev.tiki.org/Wishlist+Search+Page

I get

"Permission denied: the specified wiki page cannot be used as Smarty 
template resource"

even if I login as user with admin rights.

However, I see a list of items in a table.

Mmm, ah, ok, maybe a cache thing. After opening the paage to see the 
code (the wiki tpl name), and canceling, the page loaded with a text 
field for searching.
So I went to the tpl: "Wishlist Search Page Tpl", and noticed that it 
had no object perms, and that's why normal users (again) couldn't use 
the filter field. Ok, added perms for anons to see the tpl and use as 
tracker template, but admins (only) to edit the tpl wiki page.
Ok, fixed.

Next question, can we allow filtering for more than one field?

Xavi (still very newbie with customsearch & co.)

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Re: [Tiki-devel] Today's Webinar (May 16th)

Xavier de Pedro — 2013-05-16T14:27:57

Hi Pascal:

Sorry I can't ensure I will be there (at least during the first hour or 
so). I'm teaching elsewhere until 9 p.m (local time of the webinar), and 
I still need to get home, driving a motorbike today on a rainy day, so 
today I wouldn't be able to use the audio even if the android-bbb client 
worked.

I hope someone else can. And I hope I can join at least during the 
second hour, when the "wish list" discussion seems to be scheduled, etc.

Xavi


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[Tiki-devel] Today's Webinar (May 16th)

Pascal St-Jean — 2013-05-16T14:20:01

Hi everyone,

I will be driving to Toronto while the webinar is happening. I will dial in
using my cellphone but it will be difficult for me to actually moderate. I
would like someone to volunteer to moderate this webinar. Basically all the
moderator needs to do is make sure we keep the conversation moving and that
we cover all of the points on the wiki page within the first hour in case
some people need to leave or want to watch the reply. At least we
can guarantee anyone that if they attend the first 60min, they will be able
to get a good overview of what is going on.

I've been promoting the webinars and people are saying that they will
start tuning in, this is why it will become important to have a
good rhythm during the first 60min. After that we can continue as long as
we need to debate any subject that is needed.

On the topic list today is the Wishlist (bug tracker). I'm afraid that this
conversation can go on forever. I'm the coordinator for the WishList team
but until we all agree on a final soluti

Re: [Tiki-devel] Search rebuild (composer problem???)

Louis-Philippe Huberdeau — 2013-05-16T14:15:48

Could this be a dead index from prior to the udpate?

There was some inaccurate code relying on command line (not cross-platform,
barely working in most cases) tools previously to attempt to detect a
processor run. There has been a few changes since to make sure clean-up is
improved when a faiilure occurs, so the check is back to looking at the
state of the filesystem.


Try:
php console.php index:rebuild --force

It will force the clean-up before starting to rebuild... as documented in
php console.php index:rebuild --help

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[Tiki-devel] Search rebuild (composer problem???)

2013-05-16T14:04:43

Hi - I'm having a problem with my Tiki11 test site and the Search Rebuild
 
My overnight cron used to run " php lib/search/shell.php rebuild"
 
So I have suspended this since I assume I need to update this to run "php
console.php index:rebuild" or "php console.php index:rebuild --log" instead
 
However when I try this updated command from the shell CLI I get the
following
 
Started rebuilding index...
Rebuild in progress.
 
where this last item is in red/background - which I assume is an error
message and I immediately return to the prompt
 
Then if I try and run the 'old' command ie " php lib/search/shell.php
rebuild" I get:
 
2013-05-16T15:01:08+01:00 ERR (3): Rebuild in progress - exiting.
 
and when I try to use the new command through the browser (which would
normally take too long anyway)  I also get the "Rebuild in progress." error
shown in an error box at the top of the page
 
I have already rebooted my server so there can't be anything running in the
background
 
Can anyone suggest what is happening