http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14616 <pre></pre> Anool GMail 2013-05-25T10:35:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14615 <pre>Thanks, though the bulk of the credit must go to Raoul who wrote the critical part of the Awk script. If I can find the time I'll add support for PBM2EMP.exe to the GUI part of SVG2Kicad. I probably ought to do the same with TTConv, but I can see that would be a bit more tricky. Bringing all these converters under one, albeit bolted-together roof would be a lot less messy :). Of course that would be Windows only until I can find the time to learn QT, though if the tower of Babel doesn't prove too wobbly it might run under Wine :). Regards, Robert. On 24/05/2013 18:38, Hamish Mead wrote: </pre> Robert 2013-05-25T08:57:24 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14614 <pre> I think this is one of those instances where it's a little hard to tell what's going on without looking at your screen. One tip I can give you for zones is name the net in EESchema or it will be assigned a random name every time you regenerate the netlist, which can get very tedious in PCBNew. I'm going to take a guess that PCBNew, on finding a problem resulting from changing netnames, "disconnected" your stitching track at some point. This is a "virtual disconnect", not a physical disconnect. The way you can discover this is to click on an anchor pad on the stitching track using the net highlighter and looking for where the highlight stops. You'll probably find that on one side of the disconnect the net has a name, and on the other side it does not. There may be a better way of dealing with this, but typically I would just delete the segment at the virtual disconnect and reconnect it with the DRC off. Then turn the DRC on and re-read the netlist. A DRC check will then refill th</pre> Robert 2013-05-25T08:47:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14613 <pre>Nice one Robert! I'll have a play with it sometime I get a spare moment. Cheers, Hamish On 24 May 2013 16:17, Robert &lt;birmingham_spider-hi6Y0CQ0nG0&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Hamish Mead 2013-05-24T17:38:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14612 <pre> There has never been a good reason to run cvpcb - it was not required from back at least to 2006 There is a place holder for the tool on http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Kicad#kicad_navigator no one has ever left anything - as it is not useful. ... as long as you fill out the footprint field. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Schmidt EMail Karl-WH+jy8H4ZDlWk0Htik3J/w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://secure.transtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Truth is mighty and will prevail. There is nothing wrong with this, except that it ain't so. --Mark Twain -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please pos</pre> Karl Schmidt 2013-05-24T17:38:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14611 <pre> Well, to move forward, I ended up deleting the "netless" traces and vias and re-doing it. One of the posts in this thread pointed out that the trace had to start from a pad or pin with the same netname as the zone pour. I guess I must've done that the first time I did this. I haven't imported an updated netlist into the PCB yet to see if it throws away the net name for that trace. That's for later tonight. I still don't understand why hand-editing the kicad_pcb file didn't work. -a ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links &lt;*&gt; To visit your group on the web, go to: http://gr</pre> asp_digital 2013-05-24T17:07:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14610 <pre> My footprints include the thermal pad, so unless PCBnew's zone-pour feature is broken, the thermal pad shouldn't have any soldermask on it. But that's a good point, and I will definitely check the gerbers to make sure that the thermal pad isn't covered with the solder mask. -a ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links &lt;*&gt; To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/ &lt;*&gt; Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional &lt;*&gt; To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/join (Yahoo! ID required) </pre> asp_digital 2013-05-24T17:03:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14609 <pre> I will never use cvpcb for any reason, so the first point isn't relevant. And as to the second, recent versions of PCBnew have an netlist import option which basically lets you ignore the CVpcb output. -a ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links &lt;*&gt; To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/ &lt;*&gt; Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional &lt;*&gt; To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/join (Yahoo! ID required) &lt;*&gt; To change settings via email: kicad-users-digest-hHKSG33Tihhbjb</pre> asp_digital 2013-05-24T17:01:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14608 <pre>Although kicad has a bitmap importer I'm not happy with it. A QR bitmap I tried to import yesterday got imported as an uneditable square blob. Some time ago Kicad user Raoul wrote an Awk script that did the job nicely. Using it I imported my QR bitmap into PCBNew, and then fed it into a QR reader which interpreted it correctly. However, Raoul's script was rather basic, so today I've been tinkering with it to make it more complete. I've also compiled it into a Windows executable so Windows users don't need to install an Awk interpreter. I'm pretty sure it can also be compiled for Linux, but since Linux generally comes with an Awk interpreter I haven't done so myself. Files are here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/files/PBM2EMP/ Regards, Robert. </pre> Robert 2013-05-24T15:17:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14607 <pre> --- In kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, "asp_digital" &lt;devel&lt; at &gt;...&gt; wrote: I look forward to an answer on how to get round this. ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links &lt;*&gt; To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/ &lt;*&gt; Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional &lt;*&gt; To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/join (Yahoo! ID required) &lt;*&gt; To change settings via email: kicad-users-digest-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org kicad-users-fullfeatured-hHKS</pre> russ95462 2013-05-24T12:25:05 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14606 <pre>Put a a wishlist on the home page, let people vote for the features they want and then put the top ten or whatever on kickstarter, and make it clear anyone funding it will be contributing to open source development. On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 03:03 PM, Robert wrote: When there's another way of achieving the same thing, yes. Kicad developers do the coding in their own time. Are you prepared to pay them to do the work necessary to achieve the same ends a different means? On 22/05/2013 14:54, Seth Hardy wrote: when about &lt;[1]birmingham_spider-hi6Y0CQ0nG0&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: of -- () Plain text email - safe, readable, inclusive. /\ [3]http://www.asciiribbon.org/ References 1. mailto:birmingham_spider%40gmx.net 2. http://www.avast.com/ 3. http://www.asciiribbon.org/ 4. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyY2ZwZ2ViBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2MDI3Njk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzI4MTk0MgRtc2dJZAMxNTM2OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzNjkyMzE0Mjc-?act=reply&amp;messageNum=15369 5. mailto:bi</pre> Russ Hughes 2013-05-24T08:53:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14605 <pre>Using a copper pour for this is the wrong approach because the copper pour will be covered with solder resist and consequently there will be a gap between the thermal pad on the IC and the PCB heatsink. The chip is supposed to be soldered to the copper area, but you have to be careful how you do it. I've written about designing footprints for this type of chip here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/files/QFN_MLF/ . Do be wary about what you connect the heatsink to, as some must be connected electrically and some must be isolated. Regards, Robert. On 24/05/2013 05:45, asp_digital wrote: </pre> Robert 2013-05-24T08:21:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14604 <pre>Hi, asp_digital wrote: If I understand your question, then, yes: there is the "do not show filled areas in zones" icon on the left icon toolbar. Cheers, </pre> Charles Goyard 2013-05-24T07:26:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14603 <pre>Concerning Files&gt;myGuidelines\Symbols_Guideline_Rev2.odt document to files area from message #15319. Here is some feedback and comments about your guidelines. Sorry if this is long winded. 3.3.1) A-separateAssembly. The definition is "separable assembly". A separable assembly is one in which the constituent parts can be separated and not destroy the assembly. Whereas an inseparable assembly is one which will be destroyed if you take it apart. Any assembly that is potted, embedded, riveted, or hermetically sealed is an inseparable assembly. Examples of a separable assembly are: 1] A printed board assembly (PBA). 2] A matched set of e.g. three filters. The parts list (PL) would show a single line item of, say, A1 with a single part number (PNR) as the single PNR covers all three filters. On the schematic diagram there would be A1FL1, A1FL2, and A1FL3 with a land pattern for each. 3] Let's say you have an LCD and a backlight. The LCD can be used alone or with the backlight and the connection of the LCD when th</pre> Lawrence 2013-05-24T06:21:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14602 <pre> Oy, replying to myself. I looked at the PCB file in a text editor and saw that the traces and vias I used to stitch the top-layer pour to the ground plane layer were all net 0 -- the "unnamed" net. So I changed them all back to the GND net (189, in this case) and re-opened the file in PCBnew, which ignored the change. Oh, yeah -- is there any way to show the board of a pour? It's impossible to click on something to select it if you can't see it. ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links &lt;*&gt; To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/ &lt;*&gt; </pre> asp_digital 2013-05-24T05:21:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14601 <pre> It turns out that I needed to do this. A lot of surface-mount ICs have thermal pads which need to connect to a copper pour on same layer as the part, and that pour also needs to be connected to a ground plane. I'm using the 2013-03-25 "Stable" release on OS X 10.8.3. I plopped down the TPA6120A2 (headphone amp chip), connected the signal lines, then made a ground pour which encompassed the thermal pad as well as some generous area around the part. Then I went to add vias from the top-layer pour to the ground plane (the next inner layer). So I put a trace in the pour, starting with the thermal pad, because it has the correct net name, then dropped a via, drew the trace to where I wanted the next via, plopped it down, lather, rinse, repeat. That all looked good, until I did -- something. Then the top-level pour vanished. But it was there, just the fill went away. I realized that the traces and the vias were no longer associated with the GND net, so the clearance rules basically etched the pour away. Now</pre> asp_digital 2013-05-24T04:45:24 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14600 <pre>You don't need to edit the module at all. You switch to polar, position the cursor at the centre of your circle, then hit space. That is I think what you have have done so far. The polar display will then give you the radius and angle. So get the module to place, move the cursor and watch the co-ords. When they match the radius and whatever angle you need click to place the module. You can use the cursor keys rather than the mouse for finer control. Andy On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:53:42 -0000 "bpc2296" &lt;bpc2296-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+oqA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-de</pre> Andy Eskelson 2013-05-23T21:10:37 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14599 <pre>Hi there! Tried to follow Andy's tip here, but it didn't work. I'm using 2013-03-19 BZR 4004 on Windows I'm assuming the tip is for use in pcbnew. I switch to polar coordinates and hit the space bar at the centre of the circle - this resets the polar coordinates to 0,0 but not the x-y coordinates. I load a module and right click it and navigate to the edit module tab. However on this tab I can only find a setting for the x-y coordinates of the module and its rotation. Where can I input the polar coordinates? Thanks in advance for your help. Martin --- In kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, Andy Eskelson &lt;andyyahoo&lt; at &gt;...&gt; wrote: ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other de</pre> bpc2296 2013-05-23T20:53:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14598 <pre>Thanks, I moved a copy of the files over to the working folder and was able to continue through the tutorial. regards, Jeff --- In kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, Robert &lt;birmingham_spider&lt; at &gt;...&gt; wrote: ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links &lt;*&gt; To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/ &lt;*&gt; Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional &lt;*&gt; To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/join (Yahoo! ID required) &lt;*&gt; To change settings via email: kicad-users-diges</pre> jeffrussell2 2013-05-23T14:31:37 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14597 <pre>i think the 'automatic loop removal' is what in PcbNew is called 'auto delete old track'. ________________________________ From: Simon Huwyler &lt;simon.huwyler-goEDY2E6dbVyDzI6CaY1VQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; To: kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org; Eddie Stassen &lt;estassen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:52:18 AM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Updates and layer stiTching   I had just the same problem the other day. Then I just turned off that feature and turned it on again afterwards. Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android http://www.aqua-mail.com Am 23. Mai 2013 10:49:41 schrieb Eddie Stassen :   removes all your hard work ... stiTching :). </pre> Ivica Kvasina 2013-05-23T11:39:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user/14596 <pre>I had just the same problem the other day. Then I just turned off that feature and turned it on again afterwards. Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android http://www.aqua-mail.com Am 23. Mai 2013 10:49:41 schrieb Eddie Stassen &lt;estassen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;: </pre> Simon Huwyler 2013-05-23T10:52:18 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.cad.kicad.user