gmane.comp.apache.logging

Re: Resignation as Logging Services PMC chair

Ivan Habunek — 2012-05-09T06:47:14

Thanks for taking care of the project for so long, Curt. Are you planning
to stay active as a PMC member?

All best,
Ivan

Re: Resignation as Logging Services PMC chair

Stefan Bodewig — 2012-05-07T10:19:23


+1

Stefan

Re: Resignation as Logging Services PMC chair

Christian Grobmeier — 2012-05-07T08:30:23

Hello Curt,

thank you very much for you work. You were many years in that role and
this requires lots of energy. Thank you again for doing it. I hope you
will still be around.

Cheers,
Christian


On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Curt Arnold <carnold< at >apache.org> wrote:

Re: Resignation as Logging Services PMC chair

Ralph Goers — 2012-05-07T06:05:53

On May 6, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Curt Arnold wrote:


Curt,

Thanks for your many years of service as chair.

Ralph

Resignation as Logging Services PMC chair

Curt Arnold — 2012-05-07T05:35:53

It has been a pleasure to serve as Logging Services PMC Chair and it is encouraging to see new faces and increased activity in the project in the last few months. However, I find myself unable to devote adequate time to the responsibilities of the office and offer my resignation of that office pending selection of a replacement by the board.

The Logging Services PMC should consider potential replacements and prepare a resolution for consideration by the board, likely in time for the June meeting.

Re: Logging web sites

Ivan Habunek — 2012-05-02T09:11:23

Hi all,

I was away for a bit so I didn't comment earlier.

My idea is to generate the site using Twig [1], a nice PHP templating
engine, in combination with Textile markup [2], which is much more
versatile than most other common markup languages (such as markdown, apt,
...).

I have already converted the logging web site. The code can be found here:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/experimental-twig-textile/

And I have deployed the generated web for demo here:
http://bezdomni.net/logging/

This idea is obviously not compatible with the Apache CMS solution.
Frankly, I would prefer this solution to the CMS since, from what I have
seen, the CMS is quite a pain to use.

Regards,
Ivan

[1] http://twig.sensiolabs.org/
[2] http://textile.sitemonks.com/


On 2 May 2012 10:44, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: Logging web sites

Christian Grobmeier — 2012-05-02T08:44:23

OK I understand svn externals is like "symlinks for svn". Sounds ok.

I am a bit concerned on the CMS. Ivan has put much effort in the website design:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/experimental-redesign/src/site/pages/

I will ask infra (on the ticket) if it is possible to either use that
design for the CMS or if we can bypass the CMS feature for this one
too...

Cheers
Christian

Re: Logging web sites

Ralph Goers — 2012-04-23T02:06:53

On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:


Joe has now proposed using the CMS for the main Logging web site along with expaths.txt + svnpubsub for each sub-project. Each sub-project would then use svn externals so they could be independently managed. This sounds perfect to me.

Ralph

Re: Logging web sites

Ralph Goers — 2012-04-20T20:33:30

On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:


Gee - this sounds a lot like what the svnpubsub plugin does.



This part will be automatic once infra creates the link.



Yeah - but infra would prefer that they not have to maintain multiple links per project.  I would suggest you jump on #infra and speak with danielsh or update the Jira issue.

Ralph

Re: Logging web sites

Christian Grobmeier — 2012-04-20T19:14:21

I have no clue , never did it (the main site and log4j site). Maybe
Ivan can answer this i think he has he has digged that.

I found this:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4j/trunk/BUILD-INFO.txt

"
The website content will automatically be staged to the ASF SVN repo
by "mvn site-deploy".
This phase checks out
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/trunk/docs/log4j/1.2
into target/site-deploy, copys the generated documentation to that
directory using
scp to localhost and then commits the changed content.  You will be
prompted for an
SVN commit message using the configured SVN_EDITOR.  A commit message
must be entered or the
site commit will be aborted.

The staged content can be tested by opening
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/trunk/docs/1.2/index.html,
however some links may be broken due to the staged location.
The staged version can be published to the main public site by executing
"svn update" in /www/logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2 on people.apache.org.
"


What i thought wa

Re: Logging web sites

Ralph Goers — 2012-04-20T18:46:17

I had a conversation with Daniel.  From what I can tell the current Logging web site is maintained at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/trunk/docs.  I've never maintained the logging web site but some of the sub projects there, such as log4j, were definitely built by Maven. What daniel is telling me is that as far as Infra is concerned we can continue to use that same location with svnpubsub.  However, editing the main site only would either require checking out all the subproject sites too or using svn checkout --depth=immediates.

My question is, how has the web site been maintained in the past?  

Ralph

On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

Re: Logging web sites

Christian Grobmeier — 2012-04-20T18:14:44

thank you Ralph!

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers< at >dslextreme.com> wrote:

Re: Logging web sites

Ralph Goers — 2012-04-20T17:27:33

I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4699 and modeled it after Ant. That was the only project I know of that has sub sites.

Ralph

On Apr 19, 2012, at 1:10 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:

Re: Logging web sites

Ivan Habunek — 2012-04-19T08:10:44

Sounds good to me. Having a separate folder (/site/main) for the main site
is great. Currently it's in root and I'm not sure how I would go about
updating it.

Regards,
Ivan

On 19 April 2012 09:11, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers< at >dslextreme.com> wrote:

Re: Logging web sites

Ralph Goers — 2012-04-19T07:11:17

Does anyone else have any other thoughts before I open an infra ticket?

Ralph

On Apr 18, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

Re: Logging web sites

Christian Grobmeier — 2012-04-19T05:20:36

great, didn't know it is possible.


I think so. Imho we should start treat Chainsaw more as a product on
its own. Companions is small but we should treat it the same way. That
would ease things I think. But thats just my 2 cents.

Cheers
Christian

Re: Logging web sites

Ralph Goers — 2012-04-17T19:47:10

I'm OK with this, but I'm not sure if infra is OK with that structure. Based on that I think what we want to request is the following be added to the rules.

/x1/www/www.apache.org/dist/logging: %(DIST)s/release/logging

/x1/www/logging.apache.org: %(ASF)s/logging/site/main
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j2: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j2
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4php: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4php
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4cxx: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4cxx
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4net: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4net

chainsaw and log4j companions also show up on the main site. Do we also want those?

Ralph

On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

Re: Logging web sites

Christian Grobmeier — 2012-04-16T07:37:28

didn't know about the mvn plug - thanks!


What about:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/$project

For example:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4j2
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4php
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/main (start site)

and so on

Re: Logging web sites

Ralph Goers — 2012-04-16T07:31:03

I'm actually more concerned with us having to use svnpubsub (see http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html).  The maven team created a plugin - http://maven.apache.org/sandbox/plugins/asf-svnpubsub-plugin/  to aid in this but I haven't tired it. I also understand that it requires the main website to have something done to it first.

Log4j2 uses the Maven site plugin so I guess I really need to know is what the location of the svn directory would be to pass to svnpubsub:prepare. 

Ralph

On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

Re: Logging web sites

Christian Grobmeier — 2012-04-16T07:14:55

I am not aware of a specific process (old timers might want to correct me).
So far I know we have updated the website whenever the release has
been published. I am not a huge fan of restricting website updates to
releases and think we should be able to update at any time we want.

This again touches the question with pubsub. We need to make a
decision if we move to mvn site:deploy or do something else.

Cheers
Christian

Logging web sites

Ralph Goers — 2012-04-16T04:38:59

Do we have a process in place for updating the web site?  I'm trying to go through any issues that might exist with doing a release of Log4j2 and this is one of them.